trt staying on and coming off years later...results?

HAYEZ · 10-03-2008, 11:49 AM

so some say you can go on trt say 150 mg ew for years then if you decide to come off your before hand levels will return....has anyone actually done this or this just marketing for hrt clinics? i go in a few days to have bloodwork done and start trt...i have about 6 or so cycles done in last 5 years...pretty sure ill get it i feel nothing like i did before i started...my thing is say 10 years from now decide i dont want it anymore...can i pretty much expect to be on for life?
im pretty much planned for that now...but if there was a option to pop back id like to have that as a backup (obviously knowing ill lose all size and gains)

my plans are basically this

\3month cycle
3 month cruise
from now on

thoughts? thanks!

A L · 10-03-2008, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAYEZ

so some say you can go on trt say 150 mg ew for years then if you decide to come off your before hand levels will return....has anyone actually done this or this just marketing for hrt clinics? i go in a few days to have bloodwork done and start trt...i have about 6 or so cycles done in last 5 years...pretty sure ill get it i feel nothing like i did before i started...my thing is say 10 years from now decide i dont want it anymore...can i pretty much expect to be on for life?im pretty much planned for that now...but if there was a option to pop back id like to have that as a backup (obviously knowing ill lose all size and gains)

my plans are basically this

\3month cycle
3 month cruise
from now on

thoughts? thanks!

If you stop you will shrink for sure, but more importnatly you will feel ike shit, get depressed, won't want to screw, etc, etc

And your teeth will fall out.

Ok, so that last one isn't true, but you get my point.

HAYEZ · 10-03-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A L

If you stop you will shrink for sure, but more importnatly you will feel ike shit, get depressed, won't want to screw, etc, etc

And your teeth will fall out.

Ok, so that last one isn't true, but you get my point.

thats what i figured...but by that age ill just get some dentures! lol
really though basically thats how i feel now and have for a while...so i guess its really no worse...got my appt on the 8th...see what happens!

Blut Wump · 10-03-2008, 02:16 PM

In another 18 months you'll be 18 months older and your 'natural' levels will be 18 months worse. Size will likely be low down on the list of things you'll miss if you come off at that time and you're already in need now.

Not that it's really relevant but you didn't mention your age. If you're reasonably young then maybe it'd be worth looking into the root cause of your declining levels.

HAYEZ · 10-04-2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blut Wump

In another 18 months you'll be 18 months older and your 'natural' levels will be 18 months worse. Size will likely be low down on the list of things you'll miss if you come off at that time and you're already in need now.

Not that it's really relevant but you didn't mention your age. If you're reasonably young then maybe it'd be worth looking into the root cause of your declining levels.

only 29...
the problem is using steroids ,drinking living a unhealthy lifestyle most my life....
just now last few years got myself back together...but seems to be a bit to late...

richd328 · 10-05-2008, 09:57 AM

your 29, nothings to late.

HAYEZ · 10-12-2008, 12:26 PM

my test levels came back at 629 out of a range of 847...looks like i have some diff issues then...not going to on hrt but got the script fo the fuck of it...just cruise with that stuff and use the script for when i travel

Blut Wump · 10-12-2008, 03:26 PM

At least you now know that you have decent Test levels.

HAYEZ · 10-12-2008, 03:37 PM

ya which is weird...cause feel like shit most the time...or maybe this is how you feel?>lol

J. Adams · 10-12-2008, 03:56 PM

I've been on for 5 years.

If I was coming off I'd get:

1. GH and IGF-1
2. Androgel
3. HCG or HMG
4. Clomid
5. Exemestane

I personally think androgel is over-looked in PCT. It can give you a decent level of testosterone with minimal suppresion, which is a god-send if you've been on for a while (Or have been using suppresive compounds like deca)

GH and IGF-1 could minimize the fat gain, while HMG/HCG and clomid could get your natural test production back to normal levels. The exemestane I would use to maximize test levels levels in the blood by minimizing estrogen.

Obviously, the big factor here is genetic. One person might take 2 months to get back to normal while another might possibly take like 6 months (or more) to get back to normal.

Ulter · 10-12-2008, 06:06 PM

I don't know if androgel is over-looked as much as it is not on most source's lists. I suppose it has it's place and you're right about giving you a little helpful test during recovery. I usually recommend AM Dbol since most guys have it and it's better as a dopamine agonist.

J. Adams · 10-12-2008, 06:10 PM

If price was not an issue I'd also add cabaser at 0.5mg E3D to hep speed recovery.

brian95 · 10-24-2008, 12:50 PM

those are awsome natty test levels! i Am usally around the low200's natty.

HAYEZ · 10-24-2008, 12:55 PM

ya issue was probally with the prolaction..back on now

figure out whats wrong next time lol

10-03-2008, 11:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
HAYEZ Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NORTH CUBA Posts: 417 Rep Power: 47202	trt staying on and coming off years later...results? so some say you can go on trt say 150 mg ew for years then if you decide to come off your before hand levels will return....has anyone actually done this or this just marketing for hrt clinics? i go in a few days to have bloodwork done and start trt...i have about 6 or so cycles done in last 5 years...pretty sure ill get it i feel nothing like i did before i started...my thing is say 10 years from now decide i dont want it anymore...can i pretty much expect to be on for life? im pretty much planned for that now...but if there was a option to pop back id like to have that as a backup (obviously knowing ill lose all size and gains) my plans are basically this \3month cycle 3 month cruise from now on thoughts? thanks!

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10-03-2008, 02:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Blut Wump The Venerable Wump Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 7,435 Rep Power: 395880	In another 18 months you'll be 18 months older and your 'natural' levels will be 18 months worse. Size will likely be low down on the list of things you'll miss if you come off at that time and you're already in need now. Not that it's really relevant but you didn't mention your age. If you're reasonably young then maybe it'd be worth looking into the root cause of your declining levels.

10-05-2008, 09:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
richd328 Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 525 Rep Power: 18611	your 29, nothings to late.

10-12-2008, 12:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
HAYEZ Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NORTH CUBA Posts: 417 Rep Power: 47202	my test levels came back at 629 out of a range of 847...looks like i have some diff issues then...not going to on hrt but got the script fo the fuck of it...just cruise with that stuff and use the script for when i travel

10-12-2008, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blut Wump The Venerable Wump Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 7,435 Rep Power: 395880	At least you now know that you have decent Test levels.

10-12-2008, 03:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
HAYEZ Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NORTH CUBA Posts: 417 Rep Power: 47202	ya which is weird...cause feel like shit most the time...or maybe this is how you feel?>lol

10-12-2008, 06:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
J. Adams Athletic Wizard Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 972 Rep Power: 50995	If price was not an issue I'd also add cabaser at 0.5mg E3D to hep speed recovery.

10-24-2008, 12:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
brian95 AF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 543	those are awsome natty test levels! i Am usally around the low200's natty.

10-24-2008, 12:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
HAYEZ Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NORTH CUBA Posts: 417 Rep Power: 47202	ya issue was probally with the prolaction..back on now figure out whats wrong next time lol