TRT / HRT Question

PGHRam · 08-27-2008, 09:47 PM

So if I were to be able to get trt/hrt from the doc to get my test levels back up but stay in the normal range for my age, would I still have to worry about gyno, hair loss, and some other sides? Right now my test level is 347 and I'm 35 years old. I think the normal range was around 300 - 800???

Thanks.

Cynical Simian · 08-27-2008, 11:21 PM

Sides are possible, although of course they'll be far less severe than the sides from cycle doses and will depend in part on the method of testosterone delivery (see below). There is, of course, a (good) chance that you won't have any problems whatsoever.

Gyno is more likely to be an issue with injections, since there's more of a spike in test levels (and with it aromatase activity), although a good HRT doc (again see below) will prescribe a low-dose AI if this becomes a problem. Hair loss is more likely on transdermals (gels/creams) because of greater DHT conversion.

My best suggestion (and I can't emphasize this strongly enough) is to take the time to find a good doctor; you don't want somebody who thinks that injections should be administered every 2-3 weeks, doesn't have the knowledge to prescribe an AI or change the method of delivery if you have estrogen issues, etc.

BigJimCalhoun · 08-29-2008, 11:50 AM

Hmmm, hair loss...
I am on TRT and have basically no hair, but I started losing it at 18 and have been getting worse ever since. I took Propecia back in 1997 when it first came out and that may be the reason I am now on TRT.

Gyno - I may have a little of that but nothing that is really bad. I have 40mg of T a week twice a week and 250IU HCG twice a week, when pharmacies can actually fill my prescription for it.

Many doctors who prescribe TRT will shoot for the upper 1/3 of the range, which for your age is age-average. As you get older to say your 60s, you will still want to be in the upper third as opposed to the lower third.

I take DIM and TMG to help mitigate side effects. Both are supplements that you can buy from iHerb.com or similar. They help with estrogen processing. I do not take Arimidex or any prescription anti-estrogen.

As Simian said, you don't want shots every two weeks. Most get them weekly. My doc moved me to twice a week because a urine analysis showed my excreting a relatively large amount of T.

08-27-2008, 09:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
PGHRam In Hot Pursuit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 243 Rep Power: 52468	TRT / HRT Question So if I were to be able to get trt/hrt from the doc to get my test levels back up but stay in the normal range for my age, would I still have to worry about gyno, hair loss, and some other sides? Right now my test level is 347 and I'm 35 years old. I think the normal range was around 300 - 800??? Thanks.

08-29-2008, 11:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
BigJimCalhoun Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 13599	Hmmm, hair loss... I am on TRT and have basically no hair, but I started losing it at 18 and have been getting worse ever since. I took Propecia back in 1997 when it first came out and that may be the reason I am now on TRT. Gyno - I may have a little of that but nothing that is really bad. I have 40mg of T a week twice a week and 250IU HCG twice a week, when pharmacies can actually fill my prescription for it. Many doctors who prescribe TRT will shoot for the upper 1/3 of the range, which for your age is age-average. As you get older to say your 60s, you will still want to be in the upper third as opposed to the lower third. I take DIM and TMG to help mitigate side effects. Both are supplements that you can buy from iHerb.com or similar. They help with estrogen processing. I do not take Arimidex or any prescription anti-estrogen. As Simian said, you don't want shots every two weeks. Most get them weekly. My doc moved me to twice a week because a urine analysis showed my excreting a relatively large amount of T. __________________ No Blood for Solar Power One more donut, one more soda, one more cookie - Team Big Jim

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08-27-2008, 11:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cynical Simian Bighead Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 918 Rep Power: 38380	Sides are possible, although of course they'll be far less severe than the sides from cycle doses and will depend in part on the method of testosterone delivery (see below). There is, of course, a (good) chance that you won't have any problems whatsoever. Gyno is more likely to be an issue with injections, since there's more of a spike in test levels (and with it aromatase activity), although a good HRT doc (again see below) will prescribe a low-dose AI if this becomes a problem. Hair loss is more likely on transdermals (gels/creams) because of greater DHT conversion. My best suggestion (and I can't emphasize this strongly enough) is to take the time to find a good doctor; you don't want somebody who thinks that injections should be administered every 2-3 weeks, doesn't have the knowledge to prescribe an AI or change the method of delivery if you have estrogen issues, etc.