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Old 09-04-2008, 02:15 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Funny how you guyz only gravitated towards the cheating issue.


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Giuliani has a huge homeland security consulting business making at least $15mil per year. I would call this capitalizing.
You brought up the cheating issue my friend.

Yeah, he's capitalizing on being the mayor of the greatest city on the country. Isn't Clinton capitalizing on his being president? Doesn't he make millions making speeches?
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Hmmm.... ok Obama went to Columbia and Harvard. She went to Hawaii Pacific, North Idaho College and the University of Idaho. So she has an education. She's not stupid. She has done alot in her short time in Alaska. What should it matter how many votes she got? She won 48% of the votes and beat all the incumbents. Thats says something. Not many people can do that. Obama has world experience? What he made his tour a couple months ago and now he's an expect on foreign policy?? LOL!! Please.

And remember shes running for Vice President not President. Obama is and his experience is lacking. Try to pump him all you want, but we both know it is. I like how liberals keep pointing to her APPARENT lack of experience when she isn't even running for president and their nominee for president is surely lacking.

Bottom line, the democrats are actually afraid of Palin, she is going to appeal to a wide range of Americans.

Sorry, but my biggest concern is who is going to keep this country save. It sure isn't Obama. Anyone who is willing to sit and talk with terrorists is not going to protect this country. If you think they aren't plotting to attack again, you are crazy.

so if you think they are plotting to attack again....why are we in Iraq ?

Kinda contradicts what Giuliani was saying.


Oh wait.....we are probably still looking for WMD.
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so if you think they are plotting to attack again....why are we in Iraq ?

Kinda contradicts what Giuliani was saying.


Oh wait.....we are probably still looking for WMD.
Oh you don't? You honestly think the terrorists will never try to attack us again?

Last time I checked we are also in Afghanistan.

Giuliani was saying how we need to be on the offense, not sit here and wait like we did under the 8 years under Clinton.

Oh wait, Obama wants to go sit down with them and talk it out, oh yeah, that will fix everything.
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[quote=MikeMoore;311243]You brought up the cheating issue my friend.

Yeah, he's capitalizing on being the mayor of the greatest city on the country. Isn't Clinton capitalizing on his being president? Doesn't he make millions making speeches?[/QUOTE

IMO there is a difference. Clinton I heard Clinton speak earlier this year. Didn't hear him mention any crisis.


Giuliani cannot give a speech without mentioning the attacks. He's riding this horse to his grave. But please help me to understand more of what Giuliani has done. Seems Mike Bloomberg has been busier than ever.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:20 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that the war is an entirely different issue that Palin's speech and ability to be the VP.
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Oh you don't? You honestly think the terrorists will never try to attack us again?

Last time I checked we are also in Afghanistan.

Giuliani was saying how we need to be on the offense, not sit here and wait like we did under the 8 years under Clinton.

Oh wait, Obama wants to go sit down with them and talk it out, oh yeah, that will fix everything.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



I see that one went over your head Slim. It was sarcasm. You said yourself they are still plotting….but then again……why are there not more efforts being directed at finding Bin Laden.


Instead we are in Iraq….with over 4000 troops being killed and billions lost and spent…yet you say they are still plotting.

Seems confusing to me. Holla back bru.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:26 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I wouldn't go there if I were you. But since you did...

Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. He graduated Harvard with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude
Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).

Palin has a BS in communications. Wow! Nice work Sarah


Obama has lived and gone to school on other continents. He's worked on the problems of our cities, successfully, as an attorney. He was an Illinois state legislator for 6 years.

Palin's been nowhere. She was mayor of town of 6000 people in the wilderness. Governor of the same wilderness for two years.




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Hmmm.... ok Obama went to Columbia and Harvard. She went to Hawaii Pacific, North Idaho College and the University of Idaho. So she has an education. She's not stupid. She has done alot in her short time in Alaska. What should it matter how many votes she got? She won 48% of the votes and beat all the incumbents. Thats says something. Not many people can do that. Obama has world experience? What he made his tour a couple months ago and now he's an expect on foreign policy?? LOL!! Please.

And remember shes running for Vice President not President. Obama is and his experience is lacking. Try to pump him all you want, but we both know it is. I like how liberals keep pointing to her APPARENT lack of experience when she isn't even running for president and their nominee for president is surely lacking.

Bottom line, the democrats are actually afraid of Palin, she is going to appeal to a wide range of Americans.

Sorry, but my biggest concern is who is going to keep this country save. It sure isn't Obama. Anyone who is willing to sit and talk with terrorists is not going to protect this country. If you think they aren't plotting to attack again, you are crazy.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:27 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Fighting non-stop hasn't solved anything in the middle east since World War II. The fight to fix things experiment has lasted 70 years, has solved no religious or territorial issues, and is only going to lead to World War III.

Why not try something else.

There are no fn easy answers here.

You can't reason with lunatic religious nuts who are willing to hijack planes and blow up people. I know this.

But I also know this, if you drop a bomb on a house and kill and injure people, some of whom are innocent, their descedants will hate you even more and be MORE determined to hop on planes and terrorize and drop bombs and kidnap and behead.

We have to end the cycle of violence somehow.

I am undecided as to who I am going to vote for, but I just can't imagine continuing the course Bush has laid in terms of foreign policy and economics. I want change and real leadership.

I want lower gas prices, a stronger dollar, decreasing rate of inflation and an actual foreign policy PLAN with timetables and contingencies and real defined goals.

I hope one of these two candidates can offer that.
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Fighting non-stop hasn't solved anything in the middle east since World War II. The fight to fix things experiment has lasted 70 years, has solved no religious or territorial issues, and is only going to lead to World War III.

Why not try something else.

There are no fn easy answers here.

You can't reason with lunatic religious nuts who are willing to hijack planes and blow up people. I know this.

But I also know this, if you drop a bomb on a house and kill and injure people, some of whom are innocent, their descedants will hate you even more and be MORE determined to hop on planes and terrorize and drop bombs and kidnap and behead.

We have to end the cycle of violence somehow.

I am undecided as to who I am going to vote for, but I just can't imagine continuing the course Bush has laid in terms of foreign policy and economics. I want change and real leadership.

I want lower gas prices, a stronger dollar, decreasing rate of inflation and an actual foreign policy PLAN with timetables and contingencies and real defined goals.

I hope one of these two candidates can offer that.

Dayum.....I actually agree with you for once bru.


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No terrorist organization in history has ever been dismantled without talks. From the PLO to the IRA. The only thing that works is negotiations. Anyone who is foolish enough to think that 4 more years of fighting without negotiations is lacking reasonable thought. We nor anyone else in history are going to defeat terrorism by using armies.
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I wouldn't go there if I were you. But since you did...

Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. He graduated Harvard with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude
Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).

Palin has a BS in communications. Wow! Nice work Sarah


Obama has lived and gone to school on other continents. He's worked on the problems of our cities, successfully, as an attorney. He was an Illinois state legislator for 6 years.

Palin's been nowhere. She was mayor of town of 6000 people in the wilderness. Governor of the same wilderness for two years.
Ulter, I've heard you say yourself (and others) that some of the smartest people you know didn't even go to college. So I don't think that argument sticks at all. She has the ability to be an executive and give back to the people. Her credentials in the public arena still completely smoke Obama and she's at least honest about who and what she is. Obama isn't. And apparently he had a tough time voting on issues, ie all the votes "present" instead of a yes/no.

I work with attorneys. Trust me when I say that going to law school DOES NOT always mean it makes you smart. It makes you a better speaker and a better arguer, it can make you sound intelligent and eloquent, but it does not mean it gives you any better ideas or the ability to handle things than someone with a B.S in Communication.

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Fighting non-stop hasn't solved anything in the middle east since World War II. The fight to fix things experiment has lasted 70 years, has solved no religious or territorial issues, and is only going to lead to World War III.

Why not try something else.

There are no fn easy answers here.

You can't reason with lunatic religious nuts who are willing to hijack planes and blow up people. I know this.

But I also know this, if you drop a bomb on a house and kill and injure people, some of whom are innocent, their descedants will hate you even more and be MORE determined to hop on planes and terrorize and drop bombs and kidnap and behead.

We have to end the cycle of violence somehow.

I am undecided as to who I am going to vote for, but I just can't imagine continuing the course Bush has laid in terms of foreign policy and economics. I want change and real leadership.

I want lower gas prices, a stronger dollar, decreasing rate of inflation and an actual foreign policy PLAN with timetables and contingencies and real defined goals.

I hope one of these two candidates can offer that.
Amen.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



I see that one went over your head Slim. It was sarcasm. You said yourself they are still plotting….but then again……why are there not more efforts being directed at finding Bin Laden.


Instead we are in Iraq….with over 4000 troops being killed and billions lost and spent…yet you say they are still plotting.

Seems confusing to me. Holla back bru.
Hmmmm..... first time I've been called slim.

Oh, yup , you got me!! Good going....nice one....then again, maybe you just don't make any sense....but then again most liberals don't.

I think they know exactly where Bin Ladin is. He's in Pakastan. Do you really want to attack Pakastan. They also would never let us past their borders. They're already very shakey with all the radical muslims just waiting to take over.
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I work with attorneys. Trust me when I say that going to law school DOES NOT always mean it makes you smart. It makes you a better speaker and a better arguer, it can make you sound intelligent and eloquent, but it does not mean it gives you any better ideas or the ability to handle things than someone with a B.S in Communication.
Obama did a lot more than just go to law school. His credentials in that area are way beyond just showing up for class. If you seriously can't see the huge disparity between what Obama has done academically vs Palin, I don't know what to say. 12 years as a Constitutional Law Prof and U of Chicago vs a BS in communications and you think there's no significant difference?
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No terrorist organization in history has ever been dismantled without talks. From the PLO to the IRA. The only thing that works is negotiations. Anyone who is foolish enough to think that 4 more years of fighting without negotiations is lacking reasonable thought. We nor anyone else in history are going to defeat terrorism by using armies.

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McCain wants to go over there gorilla style and fight. then he wants to chase Bin Laden in holes and shiat.


Enough with the fighting Already.


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Hmmmm..... first time I've been called slim.

Oh, yup , you got me!! Good going....nice one....then again, maybe you just don't make any sense....but then again most liberals don't.

I think they know exactly where Bin Ladin is. He's in Pakastan. Do you really want to attack Pakastan. They also would never let us past their borders. They're already very shakey with all the radical muslims just waiting to take over.