Need some help

Mrpumped · 08-19-2008, 08:10 PM

I'm doing a show on October 11th and then the following week on the 19th. How do I maintain after already depleting and carb loading for the first show? I haven't done 2 shows in a row so I definitely need to know how to do this.

Mrs Croft · 08-19-2008, 08:29 PM

ok first..can't answer your question..BUT we are competing the same day

hmm ok I will get there first with time difference

but same day none the less

WonderWoman · 08-19-2008, 09:12 PM

make sure you send me the info... I want to get out to the show to check it out

where is it again, LOL???

Mrpumped · 08-19-2008, 09:53 PM

It's in Ney Jersey. I'll post up the location when I get home.

Mrs Croft · 08-19-2008, 10:20 PM

Mine is in Perth, Western Australia. See you there???

PeteM · 08-19-2008, 11:15 PM

With the two shows being so close together, for the first one, do not deplete or load, or change salt levels. I would keep everything as if you are not doing the first show, peak for the second and for the first only manipulate water. With such a short time, you won't be able to recover from a rebound in time for the second, you need more like 4 weeks between shows for that.

Mrpumped · 08-19-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteM

With the two shows being so close together, for the first one, do not deplete or load, or change salt levels. I would keep everything as if you are not doing the first show, peak for the second and for the first only manipulate water. With such a short time, you won't be able to recover from a rebound in time for the second, you need more like 4 weeks between shows for that.

How should I manipulate water?

Mrpumped · 08-20-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WonderWoman

make sure you send me the info... I want to get out to the show to check it out

where is it again, LOL???

Perth Amboy High School
300 Eagle Avenue
Perth Amboy, NJ
Prejudging 12pm

¼LB'er · 08-21-2008, 08:52 AM

If your diet is right, you may not have to deplete at all. People screw due to drastic changes. Try to go in as is, like Pete said.

Mrpumped · 08-21-2008, 08:59 PM

I'm going to go in as is but I still need to know how to manipulate water so I can at least look dry. Should I use a diuretic?

PeteM · 08-22-2008, 07:43 PM

viewed, I'll post some ideas when I have some more time

Mrpumped · 08-22-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteM

viewed, I'll post some ideas when I have some more time

Thanks Pete

Mrpumped · 08-23-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrpumped

Thanks Pete

Anyone else? sassy, kap where are you guys!!!!!

JayC · 08-25-2008, 06:30 PM

I don't think you want idea's from bro.. I'll have you in a sauna with a plastic suit doing sit ups until your about ready to pass out.. MMA STYLE BABY!

..although, if done safely, I've never been more cut or thin skined after that and few weeks of Albuterol.

PeteM · 08-25-2008, 10:51 PM

Ok here is what I'm thinking.

I'm going to lay this out for a Saturday morning peak - adjust as necessary.

Show #1 - only salt load, water depletion no carb up. 72 hours isn't enough to start storing fat but 7 days certainly is.

3-5g of salt with meals starting sunday and up until tuesday. 8L of water sunday - tues. Wed, eliminate as much salt as possible, including switching to distilled water. As for food keep your diet the exact same as it has been leading up to the show. If you eat based on the day of the week then stay, if you eat based on your training schedule then eat your non-training diet. Only adjust foods for salt - it should mostly be in seasonsings and spices but if you have some high salt food, switch for something with similar macros but less salt content. As much water as possible before noon on friday and then 2-3 oz with meals, again eliminating as much salt as possible. Day of the competiton, eat your normal diet, keeping salt low and cruise through your show.

Second show. This time we will have a carb load but I'm not sure if we can do the same thing with salt. Some people are very sensitive and it is possible that starting a load straight after a depletion could cause one hell of a rebound, but everone is different. What I want you to do is spend a week taking moring and evening weights - lets figure out how much water your dropping over night. Then the next week, 3-4 days add 3-5 g of salt with every meal and see what the change is. If there is a significant change in weight, 4-6 lbs and your evening and morning weights are closer then your too salt sensitive and I wouldn't risk a load. If not you should be fine.

If you are going to do the salt protocol for show#2, then do it the same way as show 1. The only thing for show 2 is add in carbs Wed - Fri, once you have stopped high salt (12 hours ago), and have switched to distilled water.

Mrpumped · 08-25-2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteM

Ok here is what I'm thinking.

I'm going to lay this out for a Saturday morning peak - adjust as necessary.

Show #1 - only salt load, water depletion no carb up. 72 hours isn't enough to start storing fat but 7 days certainly is.

3-5g of salt with meals starting sunday and up until tuesday. 8L of water sunday - tues. Wed, eliminate as much salt as possible, including switching to distilled water. As for food keep your diet the exact same as it has been leading up to the show. If you eat based on the day of the week then stay, if you eat based on your training schedule then eat your non-training diet. Only adjust foods for salt - it should mostly be in seasonsings and spices but if you have some high salt food, switch for something with similar macros but less salt content. As much water as possible before noon on friday and then 2-3 oz with meals, again eliminating as much salt as possible. Day of the competiton, eat your normal diet, keeping salt low and cruise through your show.

Second show. This time we will have a carb load but I'm not sure if we can do the same thing with salt. Some people are very sensitive and it is possible that starting a load straight after a depletion could cause one hell of a rebound, but everone is different. What I want you to do is spend a week taking moring and evening weights - lets figure out how much water your dropping over night. Then the next week, 3-4 days add 3-5 g of salt with every meal and see what the change is. If there is a significant change in weight, 4-6 lbs and your evening and morning weights are closer then your too salt sensitive and I wouldn't risk a load. If not you should be fine.

If you are going to do the salt protocol for show#2, then do it the same way as show 1. The only thing for show 2 is add in carbs Wed - Fri, once you have stopped high salt (12 hours ago), and have switched to distilled water.

Nice! This sounds good to me. Easy enough. Thanks.

08-19-2008, 08:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mrpumped Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 1,618 Rep Power: 24703	Need some help I'm doing a show on October 11th and then the following week on the 19th. How do I maintain after already depleting and carb loading for the first show? I haven't done 2 shows in a row so I definitely need to know how to do this. __________________ Discipline is key!

08-19-2008, 08:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mrs Croft Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 4,137 Rep Power: 165183	ok first..can't answer your question..BUT we are competing the same day hmm ok I will get there first with time difference but same day none the less __________________ Woman on a mission

08-19-2008, 09:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mrpumped Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 1,618 Rep Power: 24703	It's in Ney Jersey. I'll post up the location when I get home. __________________ Discipline is key!

08-19-2008, 10:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mrs Croft Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 4,137 Rep Power: 165183	Mine is in Perth, Western Australia. See you there??? __________________ Woman on a mission

08-19-2008, 11:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
PeteM Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 345 Rep Power: 57782	With the two shows being so close together, for the first one, do not deplete or load, or change salt levels. I would keep everything as if you are not doing the first show, peak for the second and for the first only manipulate water. With such a short time, you won't be able to recover from a rebound in time for the second, you need more like 4 weeks between shows for that. __________________ Body Transformation Client You can contact Carter at www.precisionnutrition.com Anafit Sponsored Athlete - The AF Store Current AF supplements: Glucorell-R Beta Alanine Neurogenex Pure CEE

08-19-2008, 09:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
WonderWoman Fluffy and FULL Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jersey! Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 478004	make sure you send me the info... I want to get out to the show to check it out where is it again, LOL???

08-21-2008, 08:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
¼LB'er RVCA Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 229 Rep Power: 28638	If your diet is right, you may not have to deplete at all. People screw due to drastic changes. Try to go in as is, like Pete said.

08-21-2008, 08:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mrpumped Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 1,618 Rep Power: 24703	I'm going to go in as is but I still need to know how to manipulate water so I can at least look dry. Should I use a diuretic? __________________ Discipline is key!

08-22-2008, 07:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
PeteM Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 345 Rep Power: 57782	viewed, I'll post some ideas when I have some more time __________________ Body Transformation Client You can contact Carter at www.precisionnutrition.com Anafit Sponsored Athlete - The AF Store Current AF supplements: Glucorell-R Beta Alanine Neurogenex Pure CEE

08-25-2008, 06:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
JayC Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,497 Rep Power: 54523	I don't think you want idea's from bro.. I'll have you in a sauna with a plastic suit doing sit ups until your about ready to pass out.. MMA STYLE BABY! ..although, if done safely, I've never been more cut or thin skined after that and few weeks of Albuterol. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Halfway spend a year notching your bedpost, getting mad jacked swole and making bank.

08-25-2008, 10:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
PeteM Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 345 Rep Power: 57782	Ok here is what I'm thinking. I'm going to lay this out for a Saturday morning peak - adjust as necessary. Show #1 - only salt load, water depletion no carb up. 72 hours isn't enough to start storing fat but 7 days certainly is. 3-5g of salt with meals starting sunday and up until tuesday. 8L of water sunday - tues. Wed, eliminate as much salt as possible, including switching to distilled water. As for food keep your diet the exact same as it has been leading up to the show. If you eat based on the day of the week then stay, if you eat based on your training schedule then eat your non-training diet. Only adjust foods for salt - it should mostly be in seasonsings and spices but if you have some high salt food, switch for something with similar macros but less salt content. As much water as possible before noon on friday and then 2-3 oz with meals, again eliminating as much salt as possible. Day of the competiton, eat your normal diet, keeping salt low and cruise through your show. Second show. This time we will have a carb load but I'm not sure if we can do the same thing with salt. Some people are very sensitive and it is possible that starting a load straight after a depletion could cause one hell of a rebound, but everone is different. What I want you to do is spend a week taking moring and evening weights - lets figure out how much water your dropping over night. Then the next week, 3-4 days add 3-5 g of salt with every meal and see what the change is. If there is a significant change in weight, 4-6 lbs and your evening and morning weights are closer then your too salt sensitive and I wouldn't risk a load. If not you should be fine. If you are going to do the salt protocol for show#2, then do it the same way as show 1. The only thing for show 2 is add in carbs Wed - Fri, once you have stopped high salt (12 hours ago), and have switched to distilled water. __________________ Body Transformation Client You can contact Carter at www.precisionnutrition.com Anafit Sponsored Athlete - The AF Store Current AF supplements: Glucorell-R Beta Alanine Neurogenex Pure CEE

09-25-2008, 08:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
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