Question for Jon

[Sam]

What do you do to fix 'buckling of the knees' when someone is squatting? And what do you think is the cause of it?

Trainers like Rippedtoe, Cressey and Hartman all say different things.

[Iron God]

When I see him today I will tell him about your post

[BodyGoals]

First....it could be any number of things..weak adductors..ankle issues, weak or misfiring glutes, tight hips, etc. When I see this problem I will do a number of things. I'll start with a verbal cue to push the knees out as your drive out of the bottom of your squat. From there I will actually place light bands around the leg at the top of the knee at the VMO and pull the knees in even more. I do this because most people dont actually feel their knees buckleing so they dont try to fix it, however with the exaggerated pressure on the knees causing them to buckle the person will have to push out. ( I of course dont use heavy load while using the bands around the VMO) If that still doesnt work I will reassess them for further info on what the culprit might be.

[Killer]

What he said :werd:

Sam - do you have flat feet? Often peeps with flat feet will pronate the foot and the knee will come in. Or if you lack calf flexibilty (plantar flexion) you will prontate to compensate.

What did the other trainers say?

Jon is right, most do not even feel the buckling. That is why I never really liked people doing squats (rehab mostly) with a medicine ball between their knees, as that is just encouraging bringing the knees in.

Not that is applies to you, but females often have trouble with knees going in due to a wider pelvis and should really pay attention to this issue.

[BodyGoals]

bump killer! Also if you lean forward in the squat you lack hip mobility or ankle mobility.

[Sam]

It's not for me but for a friend of mine and it's a she so the wider hips comment makes sense.


I am back on track with my training :)

[Killer]

You have that right Jon. I worked with a group of people that were so tight in the hip flexors, in lunges their torsos were being pulled forward.

Hey Sam, does she have flat feet like we talked about? Does she have abnormal wear patterns on her shoes? Any chance she has anterior tilted pelvis - aka bubble butt (mmmm... bubble butt :clap:)?

The Q angle is generically the angle between straight up the tibia/knee cap and the hip bone. The more this angle goes up, the chances of knee issues (especially tracking in the groove the patella is suppose to glide in) goes up.

[Sam]

You have that right Jon. I worked with a group of people that were so tight in the hip flexors, in lunges their torsos were being pulled forward.

Hey Sam, does she have flat feet like we talked about? Does she have abnormal wear patterns on her shoes? Any chance she has anterior tilted pelvis - aka bubble butt (mmmm... bubble butt :clap:)?

The Q angle is generically the angle between straight up the tibia/knee cap and the hip bone. The more this angle goes up, the chances of knee issues (especially tracking in the groove the patella is suppose to glide in) goes up.

Bubble butt, a bit,...don't pay attention to feet normally :)

A band around her legs seems to do the trick