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Old 11-10-2000, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Anabolic Aid: Cardio Will Improve the efficiency of your cycles!

Do you gentlemen believe it? I certainly do, moderate cardiovascular activity strengthens the circulatory system. Thus, improving the effeciency with which nutirents are absorbed. Thats my .02 cents, yours?

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Old 11-10-2000, 06:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I beleive it helps the body build the support systems necessary to maintain the extra weight you wish to carry..I'm firm beleiver in this and do cardio at least 3 times per week for 30 to 40 minute. Also helps my BP in check somewhat, so I'm not panting like a dog after each a set.


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Old 11-10-2000, 06:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes i agree but the key word is moderate, too much as we all know all to well is incredibly catabolic.

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Yep. I keep my heart rate at about 147 - 155 BPM.
This is ideal for my as I'm right in between fat burning and cardiovascular work.
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Agreed, I enjoy cardio immensely, i for one have more energy later on , on the days i do it. E2 brings up a good point , too much is sure to detract from your gains.




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Old 11-11-2000, 01:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've read reputable controlled studies showing heart muscle does respond (to a small degree) to AS. This is compounded by the increased resistance to blood flow (increased blood pressure) commonly experienced while juicing. Enlarged hearts are bad. I'm all abot doing aerobic exercise off-cycle, but I think they should be avoided on-cycle. Peace!

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Old 11-12-2000, 12:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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best way to get cardio, its to jump from one set to the next what better cardio them that ,i know anabolics lower ur good cholesterol , and my doc told me cardio helps in that are ,but the only cardio i get is banging the wife,p
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I believe strongly in cardio on a cycle as I retain water even on low androgens and this keeps it down..also keeps my energy levels up as well..

I don't believe as posted above there is any danger to the heart muscle in doing cardio activity while on a cycle..your heart enlarges from cardio and weight training anyways even off a cycle as it gets stronger..
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The main reason I do aerobics during a cycle, besides the fact that I hate to sit still (working drives me insane sometimes), is that I don't want too much unnecessary fat and bloating from a cycle. The aerobics I do seems to keep it down. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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I make sure to do at least 30 min 2 or 3 (depending on my schedule) a week. It really helps like Iron God says with not getting winded between sets. Esp when I am doing rows.
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Old 11-15-2000, 03:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree, cardio is not only fun, but makes everything work better, too...I try to do cardio at least every other day...

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Wow, im surprised this wasnt debated more!! As ive just now begun cardio for my contest, i have a few questions. I like to do my cardio after my weight training. Usually 25-30 minutes. I sthis a good time to do it? Should i be doing longer sessions? And should i do it every day, or just every training day? Also, how much is too much and generated a lot of cortisol? And should increased cortisol even matter to me since im on winny deca and cyp? And lastly, will cardio really make my system more efficient at distributing anabolics, making them more effective?????


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Old 07-16-2001, 10:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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ahhh yes...methyl mike is digging up the buried ones indeed! i still totally agree with T_S, et. al. on this one...cardio is good no matter what season

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Methyl, I think it is best to do cardio after weights. My theory is that the weights burn up glycogen and blood sugar, then when you do cardio it gets to fat deposits more quickly.

For some reason like to do stair steppers after a quad injection. Like it increases the blood supply to the "mother load".
 
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I have found that cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach is best. Of course, everyone here knows what I consider to be cardio...thirty minutes of windsprints or versaclimbing in 100 foot intervals at a rate of 100 feet per minute. I do it every day if I can. I do it until I am exhausted, rather than strictly for thirty minutes. More cardio=more mitochondria=more biological activity=more cuts and density. Believe it.
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Old 07-17-2001, 07:24 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Default And about legs?

I'm for cardio too - but how much cardio will affect the legs development? I mean, doing cardio during bulking/AS time won't put the legs at the catabolic stage since they are the ones that work most in a cardio workout?

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Hey Fukkenshredded, could you explain "versaclimbing"?

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I do cardio at all times. I've made the mistake of not doing it when bulking and then found that I wasn't ready for football or rugby with the extra weight.
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Arnold did cardio during his hay day. Sometimes going for 4-mile jogs according to one of his books. Follow the leader.

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I dont buy into the enlarged heart bull one bit. I think this is more psuedo-science being spit out at us to make steroids look more dangerous than they are.
I have been cycling for years, and have been on without a break or bridge since January this year. I had an electrocardiogram done and turned up fine! During bulking it helps keep the body in a more efficiant mode and ready for fat burning, not to mention the cumulative affect it has on the system as a whole. During all my days of gear use, including this run since January, I have NEVER used an antiestrogen, have no problems with blood pressure or edema, and I feel part of the reason is that I keep my bodily system in relative health by working my cardio-vascular system with the same dedication I work my skeletal muscle system.
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I like an am session or two a week (some days I have to be at work at 6:00 AM) and 2-3 times a week after workouts, immediately followed by a post workout shake. During my T3 cycle this worked extremely well with no loss in lbm. BTW, I favor interval training for 15-30 minutes. I hate long areobic sessions.
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Got wood-I feel the same way, which is why i do them when i do. Every time i try doing cardio in the morning, i get very sick, and sometimes throw up, i dont know why.

FS-Shit, every time i read one of your thoughts on cutting and cardio, well, your name says it all bro. Youre fukkenpsycho.


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