ground fought for 2 hrs thursday

[Mike Miller]

I have been doing MMA 4 days a week as well as my reg training, had to lighten the weights as I don't have the strength.. Think I may have to up my carbs a bit as well...anyway we ground fought on 2-5 min intervals on Thursday pretty much non stop with different partners, HOLY SHIT talk about getting your ass handed to you I was tired for 2 days, but I love it it's amazing conditioning.

[MR. BMJ]

Mike, MMA is definately not my area, but i've heard it time and time again from so many fighters that weight training takes a backseat to training, so once you get used to that, then it's just a matter of putting in the hours and time and practice.

From what i've gathered, it sounds like this (correct me if i'm wrong anybody):

-MMA practice/training
-Diet
-Conditioning
-Staying healthy and not getting hurt (which may be higher imo)
-weight training.

Polski explained the type of training required in his other threads....can't remember the exact wording.

.....okay, i'll let the real mma guys respond more to this;)

I love seeing that you are happy Mike, that is awesome! The waiting BS you put up with was messed up. I'm glad you are doing something else now.

BMJ
:bmj:

[Sylva]

This is the UFC all access from Brock lesnar. He talks about all his training, touches on his diet some and so on.

Should be good for you to watch. He's another big boy.
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[cipherkingtoo]

I was the same way when i first started. the only thing that helped me was that i wrestled in high school so i was kinda used to the grappling and weights. The thing that kicked my ass was the thai boxing. I wasnt used to getting kicked in my legs then have to walk the next day.lol As you do it more often your body will respond. uping the carbs is a good idea for some extra energy. god knows you burn tons more cals now.

[Mike Miller]

Thanks guys

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[JayC]

very nice Mike!! Its not only one helluva work out, it's addictive ;) The only reason weights had to take a back seat for me is because of how hard Jiu Jitsu is on your joints, then throw in heavy weights.. Ouch! ..it can feel like over training everyday if youre not mindful. I just had to lighten up the weight a bit and shift my days around. Diet is huge and a need for "good" carbs is even bigger.
Is this something you thinking about doing competitively??? I love it and love the competition even more. I'm mainly a ground fighter so I base my training around that but I still train in Mui Thai and boxing because I like to be well rounded.

[Polski Byk]

Mike, MMA is definately not my area, but i've heard it time and time again from so many fighters that weight training takes a backseat to training, so once you get used to that, then it's just a matter of putting in the hours and time and practice.

From what i've gathered, it sounds like this (correct me if i'm wrong anybody):

-MMA practice/training
-Diet
-Conditioning
-Staying healthy and not getting hurt (which may be higher imo)
-weight training.

Polski explained the type of training required in his other threads....can't remember the exact wording.

.....okay, i'll let the real mma guys respond more to this;)

I love seeing that you are happy Mike, that is awesome! The waiting BS you put up with was messed up. I'm glad you are doing something else now.

BMJ
:bmj:

Thats pretty solid advice. Mike, good luck with it big man, any ques...fell free to ask:) It's a geat sport to get into.

[Mike Miller]

thats what I've had to start doing, I had to taper back on the weight, I have been feeling overtrained already, holy shit talk about exhausting work..thanks for the advice guys,, any ideas on diet I donut want to gain weight so I have been eating my carbs only 1 hr before and 1 hr after wo's is this good

[Mike Miller]

I've been doing bag work every day and working allot on speed and technique, yesterday we did mitts for an hour and today my right hand is killing me, I guess it's something I just need to get used to ?

[Mike Miller]

very nice Mike!! Its not only one helluva work out, it's addictive ;) The only reason weights had to take a back seat for me is because of how hard Jiu Jitsu is on your joints, then throw in heavy weights.. Ouch! ..it can feel like over training everyday if youre not mindful. I just had to lighten up the weight a bit and shift my days around. Diet is huge and a need for "good" carbs is even bigger.
Is this something you thinking about doing competitively??? I love it and love the competition even more. I'm mainly a ground fighter so I base my training around that but I still train in Mui Thai and boxing because I like to be well rounded.

I'm going to take it one step at a time and see what happens.. Do any of you guys have diets written down..

[TAZ]

Dude who in their right mind would want to fight your ass? I am glad your having fun at it as it is great conditioning but I pitty the mofo that you really get a hold of.

-TAZ

[JayC]

I'm going to take it one step at a time and see what happens.. Do any of you guys have diets written down..

Diets can very Mike.. from what I've read (regarding MMA diets) alot of guys have three different stages.. I break mine down into; maintenance phase-no fight scheduled, cutting phase-dropping and training for fight, and fight week phase (basically HIGH-Carb, 60-70%!!).
Since you don't want to gain and probably want to even trim up a little more, you'd probably be some where between maintain and cutting. It's tough because as your seeing, you need carbs to to fuel those grueling sessions but at the same time want to burn fat and cals but have enough protein to heal from weights and conditioning as well.. Keep it simple and adjust as needed, it's going to vary fighter to fighter.. what I would do is just figure out your average daily output/cals burned.. then shoot for a 500-700 daily cal deficit. ON MMA training days bump the carbs so your macro's are right around 35% pro/35-40% carb/20-25% fat. On non-mma days maybe shoot for 40-45% pro/30% carb/25% fat. I keep fat lower because I need the carbs. My main protein sources are eggs/egg whites, chicken breast, tuna, 96/4 lean ground beef, and someitmes very lean pork steaks/chops and/or top sirloin steak. Main carbs are whole grain brown rice, oatmeal, and sweet potatoe.. I don't do many shakes anymore because I've been on the whole-food kick lately but will sprinkle in whey to plug the holes as needed.
Carb wise I try to eat throughout the day and a bowl of oatmeal 60-90 min's before jiu jitsu or Mui Thai.
Seeing your progress pic's, you already know what you need so my notes are just suggestions and opinions. Good luck bro!