I've convinced my little bro to let me train him

[VOX - DEI]

He's living with me at the moment and he is morbidly obese. If he doesn't do as I say I'm kicking him out of my house and he will have to live across town with our parents (where he just left a few weeks ago), so he will follow any program I set for him.

I'm wondering if I can make some money off of him through some kind of body for life type contest.

Does anyone know of such a contest that does not require proof that you bought their products? Since the only stuff I'm going to be putting him on are a few AF products.

His stats as of tonight are:

21 years of age
288 lbs
5'10

He’s never lifted a day in his life.

I can't get a BF measurement since he's so fat, the calipers won't fit over his massive stomach roll. It's just one really, really big roll. I’m going to have to buy some bigger calipers.

I am thinking of posting some kind of journal of his progress with pic’s.

I'm thinking of calling it "The Fat Bastard Journal".

Any advice on contests would be much appreciated.

[This message was edited by VOX - DEI on 02-12-2004 at 03:42 AM.]

[VOX - DEI]

Well this morning I weighed the fatass, he's 285 on an empty stomach, he's eating a few eggs and some sausage right now with water.

He's going with me to gym soon to walk on a treadmill.

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[South of the border]

Good luck Vox. This will be a full time job...

If you brother is not in it mentally (really wants to lose fat), he might gain it all back as soon as he leaves your place. One way to get into his young (and underdevelopped) mind is to talk about all the girls he missed out on because he was fat. Make him understand that he will never get laid unless he loses all that fat. Put some posters of girls all over his room as well as bodybuilder's pictures. That should work.

As far as contests, check out the muscleteck contest in musclemag international. I am not sure if they are currently offering it but they did not too long ago.


There is always a way of making money off a person losing a lot of fat if you are a little sneaky. Just take a lot of before pictures and after pictures (when the fat has been lost) then contact some supplement companies and offer them your pictures for some money.

[VOX - DEI]

He is still a virgin. He wanted me to take him to the bunny ranch in NV for his 21st birthday, but I refused. I'm not spending $1500 for him to get his jollies off.

He really wants to loose the weight, he has done it once before on his own but gained it back since he thought he was too small. He's actually just like me at that age, but I started a little earlier.

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[VOX - DEI]

I'm going to start a new thread in the main board when I post some pic's of his fatass.

He seems to be doing pretty well for day one, he did 52 min on the treadmill and he has not eaten any cho rich foods as of yet.

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[SuperStud79]

I think you should look into the EAS body for life challenge. It seems pretty well run. I think xenadrine had a phsique transformation thingy too.

[archive_Caligula]

Some pointers:

Now I'm sure your just joshing with the fatass comments and aren't really being that harsh with him...because if you were he would surely fail. It has to be positive.

Start a log like you said, that way he can see his progress and nothing motivates like progress.

Take him to a bar...let him see the way chicks treat guys who are in-shape vs. the ones who are out of shape.

Act like (if your not already) you are just as excited about this as he is and that you are dedicated to helping him. He will feel accountable and not want to let you down...hence he will work harder.

Give him extraneous motivators. Like if he does good you will take him for ice cream or whatever his vices are. But not if he cheats.

Show him some peoples progress on this board. I think Q chronicled a guys progress with pics.

Get him into reading these boards..that always motivates me.

Keep measurements, weights, pictures, bf%..whatever he can look at to see his daily progress.

And most of all...good luck!

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Curious

[VOX - DEI]

Uhh...yes...perhaps I should treat him with more respect. I will forgo my negative reinforcement techniques at your bequest (Neg. reinforcement does not work on most children anyway, but he’s not a child anymore).

If he does not lose 2% BF /wk I'm kicking him out, so there is no way in f-ing hell he is cheating (I have never had the self discipline to do this my self but I know it is possible).

Actually I was going to post pics so you guys could make fun of him (I’m one mean mofo).

He has a lot going for him he is naturally much more muscular than me at his age.

SuperStud79, I was under the impression you had to purchase many EAS products to enter the contest.

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[VOX - DEI]

He's down to 282 lb. after one cardio session and some low carb eating.

Ulter, would you like to host the pics?

[EngiCream]

Good luck.

I was at a high of 281lbs a few years ago....this summer I was at 180lbs...now I'm going back up though (muscle, not fat).

As far as negative feedback, I guess it depends on the type of person he is.....I know that never worked on me at all.....positive reinforcement worked a ton better and made me feel better and not like such a loser.

[VOX - DEI]

That is true, but no sane person would undergo the physical pain of his upcoming progressive accomplishments without paramount incentives.

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[This message was edited by VOX - DEI on 02-14-2004 at 11:52 AM.]

[archive_Mickey]

Vox are you going to show any pics?

How is he progressing so far?

"Come on, get serious!" Arnold in Pumping Iron

[VOX - DEI]

It's all at the main board now.

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