KTM Superduke

tewen · 06-09-2008, 04:50 AM

Thinking about saving to buy one, anyone here drive a Superduke or have any input on it?

tewen · 06-09-2008, 06:31 AM

Or a kawa z1000?

TAZ · 06-09-2008, 08:56 AM

I used to ride allot with KTM's national service guy. He worked out of US headquarters here in Amherst OH. He has a SD now. The thing is pretty awesome and you don't see many of them. They are not a me 2 bike. Motor wise the thing is pretty strong. None of the V-Twins will out run the current in-line 4 cylinder bikes but the torquey nature of the twin makes street riding a blast.

I have been looking at the Aprilia Truono. Cycle world did a shoot out between the 2 and raved about both bikes.

I don't know too much about the Kaw.... most guys go for the zx14 or busa. Suzuki did just come out with the B-King. It has the busa engine in it and from the accounts of the tests is a pretty wild ride.

-TAZ

tewen · 06-09-2008, 10:17 AM

Thanx for the reply! =)

I´m headed out to c a few bikes later today, not really sure what I whant, its an economical question aswell.

TAZ · 06-09-2008, 10:52 AM

What is your current riding skill level? The only reason I ask is that the V-Twins are going to be easier to manage if your less than experienced on liter class sport bikes. The 14 and busa are stupid fast and hard to keep the front end on the ground in the first 3 gears if you peg them. The twins have way more power than you need plus w/o full farings it will keep your top speed down around 150-160mph.

Economically speaking the Aprilia and KTM's are pricey. Good luck shopping... I love buying toys.

-TAZ

DrewDog · 06-09-2008, 11:01 AM

one thing I've heard from KTM owner's is that maintenance can get pretty pricey.

otherwise, they are great bikes, especially look wise.

to further Taz's question on experience, if you're a newbie, I'd suggest going with a)something smaller and b)cheaper. Cause more likely then not, you will drop it and smaller engines are a lot more forgiving when you make mistakes.

if you have the experience and are looking for an essentially naked bike, take a look at the Bandit. The engines are bullet proof and there are TONS of parts out to modify your bike with. Suzuki has kept a lot of their parts common so you can relatively easily swap on GSXR forks, exhaust, even cams.

TAZ · 06-09-2008, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewDog

one thing I've heard from KTM owner's is that maintenance can get pretty pricey.

yes... Valve adjustments are tough. They run a shim over bucket top end and it's a pita taking crap off to get to. That is part of the normal maintenance schedule....

The Bandit is not a bad bike.... If not overly large and want something real cheap but more of a sport bike the Suzuki SV650 is a really fun bike. They series rave them and they have allot of cool after market stuff for them.

See I love toys..

-TAZ

anabolic24/7 · 06-09-2008, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tewen

Or a kawa z1000?

Naw, get a GSXR

tewen · 06-09-2008, 12:25 PM

My experience is zero! will be my first bike aside from motorcross. But knowing myself I know I will whant to upgrade really soon so I think I´ll get a heavy bike right away.
I looked at the z750 and z1000 today, and thats my kind of bike! The only problem with the 750 is that Ill be knowing in the back of my mind that there is a meaner 1000 availeble, otherwise it looks awesome

DrewDog · 06-09-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tewen

My experience is zero! will be my first bike aside from motorcross. But knowing myself I know I will whant to upgrade really soon so I think I´ll get a heavy bike right away.

get a smaller bike then, even if you'll want to upgrade. motocross and street are very different. everybody I know who started off with a big bike always ends up saying "I shoulda started off with something smaller" because the smaller the bike the more forgiving. and then there's the money. if you do bin it which you're more likely to do in the beginning), the damage will lower any resale value. if its an older used bike tahts already been binned, you wont' lose as much if any $$$.

and who's to say you can't buy a new bike later on in the season when you have more seat time under your belt.

tewen · 06-09-2008, 02:08 PM

I apreciate your advice! I know I wont be abel to aford an ugrade for a few years so knowing myself I´ll go for the bigger weels straight away. Prob- a z1000, it seems pretty easy to handle and I have a dealer close by, and spare parts are not to pricey

TAZ · 06-09-2008, 03:35 PM

Just ride it with respect. There is nothing wrong with your mindset of getting a bigger bike provided that you learn to ride the right way and never ride above your head. Anyone can twist the throttle and go fast... it's maneuvering and stopping the thing that gets allot of newer riders in trouble.

That model uses a motor that is designed for a much more controllable power delivery than an all out sport bike. Less horsepower, heavier crank and slower reving so your should be fine with it.

-TAZ

06-09-2008, 04:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
tewen Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 556 Rep Power: 34898	KTM Superduke Thinking about saving to buy one, anyone here drive a Superduke or have any input on it?

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DrewDog Resident Lax-ologist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Scarberia, ON Posts: 1,281 Rep Power: 41797	one thing I've heard from KTM owner's is that maintenance can get pretty pricey. otherwise, they are great bikes, especially look wise. to further Taz's question on experience, if you're a newbie, I'd suggest going with a)something smaller and b)cheaper. Cause more likely then not, you will drop it and smaller engines are a lot more forgiving when you make mistakes. if you have the experience and are looking for an essentially naked bike, take a look at the Bandit. The engines are bullet proof and there are TONS of parts out to modify your bike with. Suzuki has kept a lot of their parts common so you can relatively easily swap on GSXR forks, exhaust, even cams. __________________ Lacrosse, its like hockey, but with balls Anybody can play hockey, it takes a special kind of fucked up to play lacrosse.

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06-09-2008, 06:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
tewen Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 556 Rep Power: 34898	Or a kawa z1000?

06-09-2008, 08:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
TAZ Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 522 Rep Power: 23115	I used to ride allot with KTM's national service guy. He worked out of US headquarters here in Amherst OH. He has a SD now. The thing is pretty awesome and you don't see many of them. They are not a me 2 bike. Motor wise the thing is pretty strong. None of the V-Twins will out run the current in-line 4 cylinder bikes but the torquey nature of the twin makes street riding a blast. I have been looking at the Aprilia Truono. Cycle world did a shoot out between the 2 and raved about both bikes. I don't know too much about the Kaw.... most guys go for the zx14 or busa. Suzuki did just come out with the B-King. It has the busa engine in it and from the accounts of the tests is a pretty wild ride. -TAZ

06-09-2008, 10:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
tewen Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 556 Rep Power: 34898	Thanx for the reply! =) I´m headed out to c a few bikes later today, not really sure what I whant, its an economical question aswell.

06-09-2008, 10:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
TAZ Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 522 Rep Power: 23115	What is your current riding skill level? The only reason I ask is that the V-Twins are going to be easier to manage if your less than experienced on liter class sport bikes. The 14 and busa are stupid fast and hard to keep the front end on the ground in the first 3 gears if you peg them. The twins have way more power than you need plus w/o full farings it will keep your top speed down around 150-160mph. Economically speaking the Aprilia and KTM's are pricey. Good luck shopping... I love buying toys. -TAZ

06-09-2008, 12:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
tewen Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 556 Rep Power: 34898	My experience is zero! will be my first bike aside from motorcross. But knowing myself I know I will whant to upgrade really soon so I think I´ll get a heavy bike right away. I looked at the z750 and z1000 today, and thats my kind of bike! The only problem with the 750 is that Ill be knowing in the back of my mind that there is a meaner 1000 availeble, otherwise it looks awesome

06-09-2008, 02:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
tewen Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 556 Rep Power: 34898	I apreciate your advice! I know I wont be abel to aford an ugrade for a few years so knowing myself I´ll go for the bigger weels straight away. Prob- a z1000, it seems pretty easy to handle and I have a dealer close by, and spare parts are not to pricey

06-09-2008, 03:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
TAZ Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 522 Rep Power: 23115	Just ride it with respect. There is nothing wrong with your mindset of getting a bigger bike provided that you learn to ride the right way and never ride above your head. Anyone can twist the throttle and go fast... it's maneuvering and stopping the thing that gets allot of newer riders in trouble. That model uses a motor that is designed for a much more controllable power delivery than an all out sport bike. Less horsepower, heavier crank and slower reving so your should be fine with it. -TAZ