How many people belong to the 405 club?

[FIF]

I really want to join this special group of brothas right here!! I know some of you can bench this easily. Its taken me a while just to handle 375. I blame this on my weak a** forearms!

Anyone else made this plateau accomplishment?

[NWMUSCLE]

Shit, what about the 135# club?:weightlifter::wallbash:

[dubdubs]

I have leg pressed 400, does this count? :)

[FIF]

I have leg pressed 400, does this count? :)

Yes that counts...my wife leg pressed 450:eek2: but then again she has thighs of steel.

[Sarge]

not for bench :( ..... yet :evil:

[bigsix]

Looks to me like WW has some thighs of steel! :)

[dubdubs]

Looks to me like WW has some thighs of steel! :)


Thank you :D

[MR.cashcream]

[QUOTE=FIF;2042]I blame this on my weak a** forearms!QUOTE]

Same problem here bro. Can't get them to grow worth nothing!

[Blut Wump]

I'm almost half way to four plates raw on bench. My 1RM is 155Kg.

I think triceps are my problem. Whenever I put work into triceps, I add a little to my bench.

[Lumberjack5.0]

Just got there last Thursday :wiggle:

[Kap]

I uesd to be able to do that much. Nowadays, forget it!

[BRINO]

I hit it b4 but i cant anymore, i always hurt my shoulder.

[FIF]

[QUOTE=WonderWoman;2065]Thank you :D[/QUOTE

yes your symmetry:weightlifter: is very nice !!

on a side note:
I didnt know you were latina...im a bi racial(black/cuban) Mi esposa es Nicaraguense.

[Blut Wump]

La mia es Colombiana.

Okay, back to English, guys, or everyone will think we're talking about them.

:D

[BiggT]

PR is 425, I was able to get it consistently throughout 2006. I got raped by 455 during that same training cycle. I haven't really peaked the flat bench lately. As long as I am not too light, I can usually train the bench to 405.

[TheSuaveOne]

I got it at the end of last year. But since then really have backed away from 1 rep maxes on all of my lifts. I doubt I could do it today.

[MR. BMJ]

I used to be in the 405 club, but I nominate myself out as disqualified until I hit it again!

Shoulder problems here too, although I am usually fine on flat bench. Now incline just kills me in pain. My upper chest region needs some work now:(

I'm gonna try to bring it up these next few months before dieting up. I was hitting 315 for close to a 5 x 5 performance before I got sick. Haven't tried to max out over 315 (3 plates) in awhile.

FIF, 375-lbs is still a respectable lift my man, that is awesome!

BMJ
:bmj:

[richd328]

Had a raw 1RM of 390 in March of 2007, tried 405 and ripped my shoulder apart, first surgery was in July 2007, then retore the doctors artwork for a second surgery in October2007. Just started lifting in 2008 and today did 1 rep of 315. No pain and happy as hell. I'm on my way to 405, I hope.

[Odoyal Rulez]

Shoulder issues as well...im happy to just rep 250-275 to grow...

[Auzzie]

405lb is about 180kg yeah?

My PR is 154kg so that would be maybe 340??

I'm no longer a fan of 1rep lifts :)

[Blut Wump]

405lb is about 180kg yeah?

My PR is 154kg so that would be maybe 340??

I'm no longer a fan of 1rep lifts :)405 is 183.7Kg. 154Kg is 339.5LBS.

[Iron God]

Flat bench is weird. some people can just nail a bench and others will never be good at it. I dont think training methods have much to do with it.

I benched 405 in 12th grade which is pretty much what I squated, and I only lifted weights in gym class..so go figure

[C. Smith]

I haven't flat benched in years and years due to injuries and it just not being that great of an exercise, imo, but i could do a 405 anytime.

Last year i actually laid down once just to make sure i could still do it. I also benched one time in a shirt just to see what the all the fuss was ;-) Corrupted by my wife if you will...

[Sarge]

Flat bench is weird. some people can just nail a bench and others will never be good at it. I dont think training methods have much to do with it.

I benched 405 in 12th grade which is pretty much what I squated, and I only lifted weights in gym class..so go figure
I hate you.

I'm going to forever try to bench more bit by bit with my monkey arms that were made for pulling, damnit.

(congrats, that is quite the accomplishment for a 17/18 yr old...btw :) )

[Blut Wump]

It's always a little frustrating to encounter someone who is simply naturally way stronger than yourself. With good training, good food, rest, gear and a lot of time in which to apply them, though, some outstanding numbers can be achieved with even mediocre genetics.

I remember the first time I saw someone bench 3 plates for a triple and thought that I'd never be that strong. Bit by bit I progressed until one day I realised that I might have a shot at hitting a 3-plate bench. After hitting it I knew I could soon make a three-plate triple. Equally, I now accept that time and perseverance should give me a four-plate bench.

I'm now at a stage, though, where a little slacking off will see my bench numbers plummet. They seem to fall much faster than squat or deadlift and are harder to restore.

[HULK1550]

i am not a good bencher but i am in this club. Mostly thanks to Iron God. He is a chest freak. it doesnt surprise me he could do that in High School. if you ever see him you wont be surprised either.

my forearms are weak as shit and i can do it, so i would be surprised if your forearms are what is holding you back.

[Killer]

I remember when I was happy to be in the 135 club back in High School!!! :woot: 45s on each side!!

[Ulter]

I remember when I was happy to be in the 135 club back in High School!!! :woot: 45s on each side!!

Side note, not to hijack...

Remember Mr Nobody and his 100 rep squats with 135? He kept telling us to do it and how it great it was. Yeah sure Bro, I'll get right on that. :lol:

[IliekFude]

Flat bench is weird. some people can just nail a bench and others will never be good at it. I dont think training methods have much to do with it.

I benched 405 in 12th grade which is pretty much what I squated, and I only lifted weights in gym class..so go figure

P.A.B.P.'s dont count.
(kidding, tiger)
nice job. what are you benching now? 500+ raw im assuming?

[JG1]

I haven't benched in a couple years, but I'd imagine I *can* do it. I do flat d-bell presses w/ the 155-160's for work sets (160's for 8ish). Well atleast for my first set or so, then I drop down to 145's.

But then again I don't know, 405 may crush me...lol. I'm only using 320 total on d-bells

[IliekFude]

160 dbs for reps is in the ball park to hit 405 with a BB. the old school ratio is take the DB x 2.5 = yr esimated BB bench. so 160x2.5 = 400.
im sure the technique wont be there tho, so dont expect to jump in the saddle n smoke it without getting used to bb benching again.

[Halfway]

160's for 8 is more like a mid 400's bench imo.. but it all depends on your leverages, and other strength.

Bench I hate... haven't been past 455 since two years ago and have no desire to test myself anytime soon... its something I am just not good at, a bad handoff can ruin a set and like BW a few months off has me losing a bunch of strength. Dips and (horror) the smith low incline for high reps are my mainstay now

[ANIBOLISM]

I used to be in the 405 club, but I nominate myself out as disqualified until I hit it again!

Shoulder problems here too, although I am usually fine on flat bench. Now incline just kills me in pain. My upper chest region needs some work now:(

I'm gonna try to bring it up these next few months before dieting up. I was hitting 315 for close to a 5 x 5 performance before I got sick. Haven't tried to max out over 315 (3 plates) in awhile.

FIF, 375-lbs is still a respectable lift my man, that is awesome!

BMJ
:bmj:


I'm basically in the same boat. I hit 405 raw back in 2000 when I was on the sauce, I maxed out at around 425 or so PR raw. Shoulder problems make me stick to 315 and under. Currently doing the 5x5 also with my last set being 315 to failure. I got 10 reps with it Mon. So in retrospect i'm probably still close to 405 after 5 years AS free. Not really sure if the chance of shoulder injury is worth trying it again. But who knows.

[A L]

160's for 8 is more like a mid 400's bench imo.. but it all depends on your leverages, and other strength.

Bench I hate... haven't been past 455 since two years ago and have no desire to test myself anytime soon... its something I am just not good at, a bad handoff can ruin a set and like BW a few months off has me losing a bunch of strength. Dips and (horror) the smith low incline for high reps are my mainstay now

I knew it.

:puke:


And this guy can do 405.... f0r 20. Sheesh.

YouTube - Ryan Kennelly - 405x20 Bench (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIPKxYIFJU&feature=related)

[IliekFude]

I knew it.

:puke:


And this guy can do 405.... f0r 20. Sheesh.

YouTube - Ryan Kennelly - 405x20 Bench (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIPKxYIFJU&feature=related)

dude, dont forget that was right after he did 315 for like 40 and also after all his heavy work.
i can see him gettin 405 for 30+ easilly now if he went right to it. his conditioning is nuts.

[solidspine]

No, I don’t think so, and I don’t plan on it in this lifetime.

[Halfway]

Omega says it's the best thing for chest :bowdown: - if you stopped treating your body like a yellow dump truck and more like a ferrari you would see the value in the smith


I knew it.

:puke:


And this guy can do 405.... f0r 20. Sheesh.

YouTube - Ryan Kennelly - 405x20 Bench (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIPKxYIFJU&feature=related)

he is monster.. bizzare that half the youtoob comments on his lifts are about his sexual relations with the spotters :z

[GFH]

Did 405x5 a few months ago then got back into my shirt and started neglecting raw strengf

[Dragon Wolf]

I'll never see it. Highest weight I have ever done was 510 on a leg press!

[mlong]

The bench is way overrated and only for your ego stroking. I would probably be benching about 500 now if I hadn't pulled both of my pec tendons twice. 3 years ago I maxed at 425, 2 years ago I hit 405 for 4 or 5 solid and slow no bouncing reps. Then I pull my pec tendon with 315. I have a buddy that wants to be bench 500, and he will get there as he does 455 now. But the thing is it doesn't even look like he works his chest out because he doesn't have one. He is solid everywhere else except the one thing he cares so much about. People often ask me what I do and I just tell them I don't max. A few months ago I was curious to see if I could lift heavy again on bench and everything was going good. Hit 385 for a few reps, 3-5, and then next set there went that pull in the pec tendon.

I would rather look like I could lift a 1000 lbs, instead of lifting a 1000 lbs and looking like I could only lift a 100.

[C. Smith]

I would rather look like I could lift a 1000 lbs, instead of lifting a 1000 lbs and looking like I could only lift a 100.

:puke: *shudder* :puke:


I kid of course. But really that says alot about how you train. If your training just so you can look good when you put on your sash and heels on stage, then of course you would prefer what you stated. But there are individuals who actually train with an athletic goal in mind. Some of us are Pro strength athletes, and my paycheck at the end of a day of competition has never been accompanied with a "best abs" trophy. Function > Appearance for alot of people. Not everyone on this board is a bodybuilder remember....

[GFH]

:puke: *shudder* :puke:


I kid of course. But really that says alot about how you train. If your training just so you can look good when you put on your sash and heels on stage, then of course you would prefer what you stated. But there are individuals who actually train with an athletic goal in mind. Some of us are Pro strength athletes, and my paycheck at the end of a day of competition has never been accompanied with a "best abs" trophy. Function > Appearance for alot of people. Not everyone on this board is a bodybuilder remember....



. minus the paycheck thing

[Blut Wump]

I can see my abs in the same way that I can see my legs under the duvet and quilt. The insulation not only helps me to lift but keeps me warm in winter.

While moving around the real world, there's a mix of the two, looks and function, required. Nobody is going to mess with you if you look as though you're not likely to be intimidated and can pack a punch but you're not likely to pull the pose off if you don't have the functional muscle to move well.

For any athletic endeavour, I could care less what I look like. Performance is everything. The tree I'm trying to carry home isn't going to offer any compliments for having large, expansive, perfectly chiseled shoulders and traps to rest on and my wasp-thin waist isn't going to help move the bales of hay.

[mlong]

:puke: *shudder* :puke:


I kid of course. But really that says alot about how you train. If your training just so you can look good when you put on your sash and heels on stage, then of course you would prefer what you stated. But there are individuals who actually train with an athletic goal in mind. Some of us are Pro strength athletes, and my paycheck at the end of a day of competition has never been accompanied with a "best abs" trophy. Function > Appearance for alot of people. Not everyone on this board is a bodybuilder remember....

And remember not everyone on here is a powerlifter/strength athlete. Just because I say I train to look big doesn't mean I don't train to get strong. For never training like a strength athlete I feel I still do ok.

[Iron God]

Raw bench is about speed going dow, off the chest "POP" and tricep strength. You hit the chest on the negative end of the motion. The faster you get it off you chest the more you will be able to bench raw.

What impresses me most about Mr Kenellys bench (other than the poundage) is how damn fast he moves that weight of his chest .


Also on a side note... bench has about zero carry over for any athletic indeavor, and for most poeple its a shoulder injury waiting to happen, stick with dumbell work and incline presses IMHO

[C. Smith]

Also on a side note... bench has about zero carry over for any athletic indeavor, and for most poeple its a shoulder injury waiting to happen, stick with dumbell work and incline presses IMHO

I have had this discussion many many times. I couldn't agree more.

[solidspine]

Actually I took the 405 up to Santa Monica yesterday, but came home on the 110,

So same club,


Your talking about freeways right?

[NWMUSCLE]

Actually I took the 405 up to Santa Monica yesterday, but came home on the 110,

So same club,


Your talking about freeways right?


Allright thanks SS............never thought of that, I took the 405 from Renton to Bellevue just the other day!
ALLRIGHT I AM IN THE 405 CLUB!:weightlifter::weightlifter::super:

[IliekFude]

What impresses me most about Mr Kenellys bench (other than the poundage) is how damn fast he moves that weight of his chest .

Also on a side note... bench has about zero carry over for any athletic indeavor, and for most poeple its a shoulder injury waiting to happen, stick with dumbell work and incline presses IMHO
two great points my man. he is so damn fast its mind boggling.. amazing force development.
and i agree, people who arent powerlifting shouldnt be bb flat benching. its not worth it.

[GFH]

There is smart BB benching and there is dangerous BB benching. Those that know how to bench properly can save their shoulders. We went decades with bodybuilders building amazing physiques (and raw powerlifters getting by with minimal problems) without using dumbells as a primary. I have never agreed with BB benching having no place in performance. I know some aspiring SM that stopped doing flat BB benching and replaced it with OHP thinking it fit their sport better. Within a year they watched a lot of the pros start incorporating flat bench back into their routines. They followed suit and their performance in SM increased.

Saying flat BB bench is nothing but an ego stroker is one of the most misinformed comments I have ever seen on this board. It has been a staple of training routines since before anyone here was born and will continue to be a staple of routines after we are gone.

[C. Smith]

You certainly have to agree that the OHP is a much more strength athlete specific exercise, as well as just generally being a more athletic movement. Very rarely in a sport setting are you lying on you back receiving counter pressure while you press. That being said no one ever said both can't be done. While you say that some SM have gone back to that, there are still plenty on top that don't bench. That being said, i never said it was just an ego stroke, just that the applications may not be as widespread.

What i know from personal experience is that is it not necessary. That's not to say i didnt used to bench heavy, injury lead me down another path though.

As with anything else, YMMV.

[FIF]

pressing 405 is to me an ego stroke, but in my opinion it can also help with the mind issues. So many times you say to yourself "I cant do that" and being able to perform a flat bench "He-Man" amount of weight helps one to get over that mentle block. Now...I stated in the beginning...i havent made it there. but I aspire too.

After I make this bench mark then its right back to db's.

[Lift Or Die]

My best ever was 465 which I ripped the pec tendon clean off the bone.

I got one rep and should have quit there. I went for a double and half way up is when the pec tore and the weight came crashing down.

I'll never be able to bench that much again. Nowdays 325-330 is the best I can muster.

[afroman]

18 years ago, in my early twenties, I got to 485 raw. Then, I just stopped lifting, don't know how high I could have gone. Did 485 one week, next week got an apartment with my pregnant girlfriend and a job as a construction laborer, and never had the time or energy to go anymore. Now, I'm in my early 40s, and back in to the low 400s, but the injury bug has been biting me this time. Part of me wants to get back to where I was then, just to show I'm fighting the good fight against father time.

[mlong]

Saying flat BB bench is nothing but an ego stroker is one of the most misinformed comments I have ever seen on this board. It has been a staple of training routines since before anyone here was born and will continue to be a staple of routines after we are gone.

You are correct. But it is an ego stroker to want to get to a certain number when you may not be close to that number. Wanting to get to 400 when you can only do 300, for instance. Like most people on here saying its not worth it to get to a 400 or 500 or whatever their goal is, is because we have hurt ourselves. I would love to lay down and rep out 400 again, but probably won't see that again as I can get my chest to grow with other exercises (maybe not as good, but at least it grows). I still bench occasionally because for me it probably is the best thing for growth, but no I try and keep my reps high 8-12. Usually my 1st set is 225 for about 15-20.

Anyways you are correct in saying that the bb bench is a good staple in any lifters regiment.

[mike]

Side note, not to hijack...

Remember Mr Nobody and his 100 rep squats with 135? He kept telling us to do it and how it great it was. Yeah sure Bro, I'll get right on that. :lol:
:rofl:

u'd have eto come get me and bring me to the store, since i wouldnt be able to walk.

[mike]

i just started using incline bb as my mian movement.

btw, never even close to 405 on flat press.

[mnk]

Can get up 385......have tried 405 a couple times and get stuck about have way up, with a little tap Ive done it but It hasnt been clean (on my own) so it doesnt qualify. ONE DAY!

[GFH]

You are correct. But it is an ego stroker to want to get to a certain number when you may not be close to that number. Wanting to get to 400 when you can only do 300, for instance. Like most people on here saying its not worth it to get to a 400 or 500 or whatever their goal is, is because we have hurt ourselves. I would love to lay down and rep out 400 again, but probably won't see that again as I can get my chest to grow with other exercises (maybe not as good, but at least it grows). I still bench occasionally because for me it probably is the best thing for growth, but no I try and keep my reps high 8-12. Usually my 1st set is 225 for about 15-20.

Anyways you are correct in saying that the bb bench is a good staple in any lifters regiment.


I see that as a goal not an ego stroker. When I hit 315 for the first time in high school my mind went straight to 405. After squatting 800 for the first time, my mind went straight to 900. As long as everything is done properly (form wise), I see no reason as to why you can't take your body to the max.

I know what you are saying, you can build your chest with means other than a flat BB bench... but I don't think anyone has ever considered having high goals an ego thing. I think its a desire and test of one's will, not ego.

[A L]

:puke: *shudder* :puke:


I kid of course. But really that says alot about how you train. If your training just so you can look good when you put on your sash and heels on stage, then of course you would prefer what you stated. But there are individuals who actually train with an athletic goal in mind. Some of us are Pro strength athletes, and my paycheck at the end of a day of competition has never been accompanied with a "best abs" trophy. Function > Appearance for alot of people. Not everyone on this board is a bodybuilder remember....

Praise the Lord. I rather enjoy the way I 'look' but no where near as much as when someone ask's how I am able ot jump on a 54" box... "You don't look like you could jump at all"


Omega says it's the best thing for chest :bowdown: - if you stopped treating your body like a yellow dump truck and more like a ferrari you would see the value in the smith


Omega goes well with farva beans and a little Chianti


Saying flat BB bench is nothing but an ego stroker is one of the most misinformed comments I have ever seen on this board. It has been a staple of training routines since before anyone here was born and will continue to be a staple of routines after we are gone.


WHile I agree that benching has it's place, OHP is a much longer standing lift and has much greater carryover IMO.

[IliekFude]

I see that as a goal not an ego stroker. When I hit 315 for the first time in high school my mind went straight to 405. After squatting 800 for the first time, my mind went straight to 900. As long as everything is done properly (form wise), I see no reason as to why you can't take your body to the max.

I know what you are saying, you can build your chest with means other than a flat BB bench... but I don't think anyone has ever considered having high goals an ego thing. I think its a desire and test of one's will, not ego.

I agree man.
People seem to get into some weird ass drawn out purely opinion based debates around here sometimes that just make ya go wtf?
I think we all train for our sports. Plifters want a big flat bench, okay. Olifters want a strong overhead, okay. Strongmen also want that overhead, but for reps. BB'rs want whatever makes em the biggest and most proportionate (in their view), okay.
cool!

[lesarin]

push and puller for life. I'm andy bolton jr. i hit 405 once at the middle of a bulk. now it swings from 350-375.

[IliekFude]

push and puller for life. I'm andy bolton jr. i hit 405 once at the middle of a bulk. now it swings from 350-375.

bolton held the world record squat too until a few weeks ago ;)

[Polski Byk]

[QUOTE=Iron God;3056]Flat bench is weird. some people can just nail a bench and others will never be good at it.

I am one of those people. My other two lifts will sky rocket and the bench may go up 10-15 lbs at best.

[lesarin]

bolton held the world record squat too until a few weeks ago ;)

total(3) he held for a while and just lost it.

February 14th 2008
2008 so far has not really started off too good, after having a operation on elbow in nov 07 I was just getting back to strength when I got a cold which really dehydrated me.
So my next workout I squatted 340kg/749lbs for reps just belt and wraps felt really strong, then next I got ready for d.lift same again went to 340k/749lbs was just setting up and pop my groin popped so I thought nothing of it and pulled 2 reps easy, next day my god, my groin was in so much pain, so that was that but then this cold turned into a viral infection which led to me being admitted into hospital due to very high blood presssure.
After all the checks on my heart the works the results are good, my heart is good, my blood pressure back to normal and I just need to rest a little till I shake it off, but I will be back very soon stronger than ever, I want some records back,and I will not stop untill I am no.1 again lol
Andy Bolton

[IliekFude]

Are you quoting some andy news updates or what? Im lost.

[lesarin]

Are you quoting some andy news updates or what? Im lost.

andy-bolton.com It's a post Andy made.

[IliekFude]

o kk i c

[hrpiii]

I'm in that club. current PR is 445 lbs, that was back in Aug. last year.

here is a couple of me playing in the gym last year. My lifts have increased since, so I need some new ones :) .

YouTube - Hank the Tank - 150 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G38TJs5Xhs)

YouTube - Hank the Tank 225x10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tph9T8TTAvo&feature=related)

YouTube - Hank the Tank - 225 x 32 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoK7D_asIug&feature=related) this one was a lunch bet with a co-worker... he said 'no way', I said 'easy'... I only had to get 30 of them.

[MR. BMJ]

hrpii, it has your 325 and 405-lb lifts there too:)

Awesome job man!

BMJ
:bmj:

[hrpiii]

hrpii, it has your 325 and 405-lb lifts there too:)

Awesome job man!

BMJ
:bmj:

yeah, but the 405 one is really old. I can get several reps out of it now. My next bet with my friend is 325 lbs x20. ...that video will be coming at the end of march, when I win another steak lunch.

[illuminati]

You are correct. But it is an ego stroker to want to get to a certain number when you may not be close to that number. Wanting to get to 400 when you can only do 300, for instance. Like most people on here saying its not worth it to get to a 400 or 500 or whatever their goal is, is because we have hurt ourselves. I would love to lay down and rep out 400 again, but probably won't see that again as I can get my chest to grow with other exercises (maybe not as good, but at least it grows). I still bench occasionally because for me it probably is the best thing for growth, but no I try and keep my reps high 8-12. Usually my 1st set is 225 for about 15-20.

Anyways you are correct in saying that the bb bench is a good staple in any lifters regiment.

I disagree with this statement that you made (the one I put in bold print). It is a defeatest mentality to give up on ones dreams and aspiration just because you got injured. It smells of the phrase "I give up." I slipped a disk 3 years ago while warming up in a new squat suit, and the only thought that went through my mind was, "I can't wait till this shit heals up so that I can get back to where I was." And I managed to come back 1.5years later and hit 675 with relative ease (at a body weight of 215). Didn't push it too hard as it was the first time I had put my suit on since the injury, and I was having problems with getting readjusted to the suit. But never once did I say it wasn't worth it to try and hit that mark again, just because I got injured.