Why Do They Ask You If You've Ever Taken Steroids Before You Have Surgery?

[velocity22]

It's a question on the questionnaire. Thoughts? What should I put down?

[IliekFude]

if you have, id say (ya i took andro when it was legal) ;)

[Beverly McD.]

They more probably are referring to such things as Prednisone, or even asthma inhalers. :) Drugs such as these are hard on internal organs. I would tell the doctor, and also tell him you're not comfortable putting it in writing.

[Ulter]

No, you don't want to tell anyone about AAS use. You never want to tell a doctor you use steroids. If he puts that on the chart you're toast when your insurance carrier's claims adjuster sees it. Steroids have no bearing on your surgery but insurance companies will use that to deny the claim and rate up your insurance in the future.

<<< health claims adjuster 9 years

[Iron God]

No, you don't want to tell anyone about AAS use. You never want to tell a doctor you use steroids. If he puts that on the chart you're toast when your insurance carrier's claims adjuster sees it. Steroids have no bearing on your surgery but insurance companies will use that to deny the claim and rate up your insurance in the future.

<<< health claims adjuster 9 years


I have been telling this to people for years!!! The insurance companies see you as a drug addict

[HULK1550]

never understood why any one would say anything that could come bite you in the ass later.

[Blut Wump]

Is the question about cortico-steroids rather than aas.

[Ulter]

I've seen it recently when I went in for my bicep tendon surgery. They are asking about AAS now on the admission form.

[nychris]

About 2 years ago my endocrinologist asked me if I was on anything and I told her no. She ran a full blood panel and called me a few days later asking why my testosterone levels were in the 3000+ range, haha. I had to admit it then. Do you think this is on my permanent record now and I'm screwed?

[Blut Wump]

I see why they call it an admission form. :)

[Fawkes]

About 2 years ago my endocrinologist asked me if I was on anything and I told her no. She ran a full blood panel and called me a few days later asking why my testosterone levels were in the 3000+ range, haha. I had to admit it then. Do you think this is on my permanent record now and I'm screwed?

It will be in the endicrinologists records 5-7 years by law. If they are smart they will microfiche it and it will be permenant. If they are average they will throw the file away 5-7 years after.

As long as no other doctor has the records, its probably nothing to worry about.

You could find a new primary care physician and start over and just don't mention the endocrinologist - then the paper trail is somewhat broken. Your insurance would contact the primary care, and if they did not know about the endo, it would go no deeper.

Unless it is on MIB.

[Fawkes]

I've seen it recently when I went in for my bicep tendon surgery. They are asking about AAS now on the admission form.


If your PCP has you on HRT, would you mention that?

[Blut Wump]

If your PCP has you on HRT, would you mention that?It's difficult to answer your question with seeing the question on the admissions form.

If the question is along the lines of "Are you taking any exogenous ass" then there's little scope for interpretation; it's 'yes' or 'no'.

If the question is "Are you taking any aas" then it is open to interpretation. Being human, we're all taking aas since we manufacture steroids endogenously and, furthermore, many common foods contain steroids. One must thus conclude that the question isn't asking that since the answer would be 'yes' for everyone, making the question redundant. I'd interpret it as asking whether one is taking excessive aas and answer in the negative.

[Ulter]

If your PCP has you on HRT, would you mention that?

No. I pay cash for HRT so it doesn't show up on MIB. When you sign up you don't sign the "authorization to release information".

[Fawkes]

Yeah I p-ay cash for my doctor prescribed HRT too. Keeps my free test around 1000 and is $21 a month

[Halfway]

There's usually a thread a week about this on EF where some genius tells everyone it's ok to go the full disclosure route because his doc is a 'good bro'

shake my head in wonder at the idiocy of some people...

[solidspine]

I would be certain to be off all gear before I have anesthesia.


I once had a bad experience with anesthesia, and suspect that being on my cycle contributed to the complications.

[HULK1550]

If your PCP has you on HRT, would you mention that?

I wouldnt mention that. Hell i know many doctors and nurses that dont consider Testosterone a steroid. Its a hormone LOL.

[Fawkes]

Do you know how to make a hormone?





Don't pay her. (whore moan)

[Caligula]

Because they are afraid that if you were to wake up during surgery and be incoherent, then there wouldn't be enough motherfuckers to put you back down on the table before you ran out like the big black dude in THE ISLAND did when he woke up. They want to know if they should beef up security. :lol:

[Fawkes]

A person could break the paper trail by going to see a new endo, and simply taking the lab tests from the old endo. The new endo probably would not contact the new endo - all they need are the old tests, they know how to interpret them. The new endo would probably consider it an insult to use the old interpretations (notes) from the old endo - its kind of like saying the new endo does not know what they are doing.

So a person could call the old endo, get copies of test results, and go see a new endo. Not that I am recommending it. But with the new endo, only would know what you told him (about why the old tests were done).

If the old endo billed your insurance with a CPT code for "brain tumor" it could show up at MIB and follow you.

I recently requested my MIB file. It said they could not find any information on me. It said the file goes back 7 years. I know my old file had that I had back problems, and engaged in dangerous activities like hang gliding. So they must only hold information so long.

But you might want to check your MIB file to see how insurance companies see you.

[nychris]

A person could break the paper trail by going to see a new endo, and simply taking the lab tests from the old endo. The new endo probably would not contact the new endo - all they need are the old tests, they know how to interpret them. The new endo would probably consider it an insult to use the old interpretations (notes) from the old endo - its kind of like saying the new endo does not know what they are doing.

So a person could call the old endo, get copies of test results, and go see a new endo. Not that I am recommending it. But with the new endo, only would know what you told him (about why the old tests were done).

If the old endo billed your insurance with a CPT code for "brain tumor" it could show up at MIB and follow you.

I recently requested my MIB file. It said they could not find any information on me. It said the file goes back 7 years. I know my old file had that I had back problems, and engaged in dangerous activities like hang gliding. So they must only hold information so long.

But you might want to check your MIB file to see how insurance companies see you.

Fawkes, thanks again for the info. How do I get a copy of my MIB? Just contact my insurance carrier and ask them for it?

EDIT: I just found a link explaining this. According to the description, I don't think I'd have a file. I'd like to request one though to make sure the high test levels aren't in there.

MIB: The Big Brother for Insurance Companies | Wise Bread (http://www.wisebread.com/mib-the-big-brother-for-insurance-companies)

[solidspine]

Do you know how to make a hormone?





Don't pay her. (whore moan)


That a good one, but don’t those little girls have 45’s?

[IronSlade]

I've seen it recently when I went in for my bicep tendon surgery. They are asking about AAS now on the admission form.


I too have seen it recently when I had my neck surgery. It was on the forms and the lady at my surgeon's office specifically asked me about it. They are definitely seeking out this sort of info so they can use it against you.

[G-REX]

Hehe, I had bicep repair surgery awhile back and had to go to the ortho. Of course during the examination process, he asks if I've ever used steroids. I answer no, then he's like "Well, with this type of injury, there is usually some type of steroid use involved". I looked him dead in the face, and said no, and don't ask again. I almost got up and left, but he was apologetic after that. Only doctor I've ever told I use was my gp, and that was after I had been going to the guy for 3 years. When I told my gp I used, his response, "a man of your age probably should be on some test atleast, your natural testosterone levels are probably starting to decline anyway". Felt like I hit the jackpot!

[East Coast Lifter]

Gear will affect anesthesia for some patients, and raise their blood pressure and I suspect that is one reason, and not paying by insurance companies is probably the main reason.

[itsallgenetics]

Gear will affect anesthesia for some patients, and raise their blood pressure and I suspect that is one reason, and not paying by insurance companies is probably the main reason.

i admitted that i did....to be honest i was in sooo much fucking pain, and was loopy from the pain killers i didnt give a shit about anything....

this is probably going to come back in the ass and haunt me one of these days.....as far as the 45,000$ medical bill all but 500$ was paid for

[dirty~d~]

You say no on the admission form. The doctor, or nurse, will 'interview' you once you are admitted. If you are concerned that aas usage might be a problem during your treatment then during the interview is the time to mention that you 'might' have used aas. Read everything that you sign before, during and after your treatment. Don't give your insurance company any reason to deny your claim... because they'll gladly take it.