Calories in vs Calories out

[PGHRam]

I have a question on calories and gaining muscle. I noticed that my calories burned yesterday were 3177 ( this is life style, basal, and activities ) and my calories in were 2000 ( using fitday ).
So is that a 1177 calorie deficit? I thought that you were to eat more than basal to gain weight, or eat less to lose weight.
Should I be using the total calories burned through out the day or basal calories?

Thanks.

[solidspine]

I think you need to look at it over a 4 week or 90 day period, not just one day.

[PGHRam]

I have been using fitday for months. This is something that I just noticed and had a question about.

Should I base my calories off basel, ore calories burned for the day?

[DrewDog]

total calories out, not just basal

[ChefWide]

total calories out, not just basal

what he said... there are a bunch of folks on this board and you will find too much to read to swallow in a month that its NOT just about the first law of thermodynamics, but profoundly influenced by the hormonal responces that are elicited by the sources of those cals... I know you know that already, but CalsIn vs. Calsout discussions always get me a little gooned up.

:)

[PGHRam]

Thanks guys. I'm glad I know that now so that when fall rolls around and it's bulking time, I know how much to eat. I'm trying to lose some fat now for the summer.
1000 cal deficit seems a little steep, but I feel good right now. I'm lifting and running ( 20 minutes ) in the AM and another 20 minutes of cardio PM. Trying to get cut up a bit.

Thanks.

[get456]

If you were really running a 1000 Cal deficit, I would have to guess you would NOT be feeling all that great in a few short days. I would not take that as being overly accurate as it just isnt individualized enough... A better measure is, pick a number that you believe to be maintenance and adjust from there, posting some info about yourself in a seperate thread may be a good idea to try to establish this to some effect... From there, pick gaining or losing and go...

If you want to cut, and you arent losing weight then somethings wrong, so you can adjust, same for bulking.

there are just so many personal factors it makes it impossible to just use a calculator online to figure what YOU need... and even the knowledgeable people on this board can just give some guidance, at the end of the day, you have to see what works for your body

[ashley2212]

there are just so many personal factors it makes it impossible to just use a calculator online to figure what YOU need... and even the knowledgeable people on this board can just give some guidance, at the end of the day, you have to see what works for your body

I totally agree. Try it for a couple weeks, watch the scale and the mirror, adjust accordingly.

[Ivanko]

what he said... there are a bunch of folks on this board and you will find too much to read to swallow in a month that its NOT just about the first law of thermodynamics, but profoundly influenced by the hormonal responces that are elicited by the sources of those cals... I know you know that already, but CalsIn vs. Calsout discussions always get me a little gooned up.

:)

Nice to see you Cheffy I was thinking about our writing during my HIIT cardio this evening!! Was thinking about why more fat is burned from HIIT then steady state cardio even though total calories burned according to a heart rate monitor may be greater during the steady state. I read a study the other day that stated that HIIT burnt more fat despite EPOC being not too different on the two training systems indicating the body had a hormonal response to the the HIIT that caused more FAT loss. Sorry If I have taken this thread off course I mention it because you made a thread about it on the old board!!

So the foods you eat illicit different hormonal response as do the exercises - combined equal results!!