Progress pics

[jagerbombme]

started lifting weights in 2004

Here's few from 2005
02-08-2005-001.JPG (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=yjm9ynjl1z0&thumb=4)
02-08-2005-002.JPG (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=we31b3gmtgn&thumb=4)
02-08-2005-003.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=sgzxvxwjwbz&thumb=4)

Here's right after first cycle 2006
Sept2006.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=c1iqe2bljyj&thumb=4)

Here's one from 2007 right before i started learning to train and eat correctly
07-08-2007-001.JPG (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=nymskileg20&thumb=4)

Here's beginning of march 2008 starting tren
03-08-08-001.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=a5gbsmd19ns&thumb=4)
03-08-08-002.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=dzlsni1xyvb&thumb=4)
03-08-08-003.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=bmairy0bs3a&thumb=4)

Here's beginning of april 2008 been on tren about 3 weeks and dieting for .5 of those
04-02-08.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=7lyhbl0bqnv&thumb=4)

[IliekFude]

wow...
juice is no fuckin joke i guess.
grats.. you just got like 10 years worth of natural hard work done in like 3 years.

[ashley2212]

WOW!!!!!!!! Great work!!!!!! You look amazing!

[kook]

That's insane progress, Nice work jager!:bowdown:

[mnk]

My man Jag...good shit my brother. Good progress. By the way what ever happened to the sweater you had on in the 1st few pics! LOL Lets see another 1 in a month....you might just make me deal with the side effects of tren!

[jagerbombme]

i will post up continual progress my brethren. thanks all. i take that back though i was wrong. i was lifting in 03 cause that's when i got into the union and i was already lifting weights. i get so fucking frustrated sometimes that it seems i cannot get ripped and cannot make certain gains it seems. however, i pulled these ol pics out today and went OMG. hehe. i've came a LONG LONG WAY. more with fat loss than muscle i think. i could be bigger but i'd still be a fat slob.

[jagerbombme]

My man Jag...good shit my brother. Good progress. By the way what ever happened to the sweater you had on in the 1st few pics! LOL Lets see another 1 in a month....you might just make me deal with the side effects of tren!

the wife shaves the back, i shave the front. hehe. fuckn nasty eh. sorry if i made anyone ill with those. :) :repost:

[LanT]

It's amazing what little tren and a gillette will do for the human form:) Keep up the good work!

[MR.cashcream]

Excellent progress bro, you have completely reshaped your body, big props to you!

[jagerbombme]

thanks :)

[A L]

Great job

[booey]

Great progress!

[Mackman]

Congrats bro, good shit.

[Auzzie]

Great progress mate.

[get456]

well done!!!

only getting better bro, keep that diet in check and stick to it!!!

[warmpain]

Really great work. Its awesome to see people transform like that.

[bigsix]

Great work!!!

[ricorico]

dude, real deal......good call on the shaving...that whole teen wolf thing HAD TO go, lol.....wax that shit out bro. I just did myself today, hurts like a mofo...haha

good progress tho

[wags8]

Great work jags. Did you post some of these at EF a few years back? Anyway you should be proud.

[Ranger1]

Excellent...keep pumpin!!!!

[ChuckLee]

Your arms exploded! Great work. Your chest hair went away too! :lol:

[hrpiii]

Your arms exploded! Great work. Your chest hair went away too! :lol:

..but for some strange reason, the hair remained on the arm and under the arm??


Good work there jager!

[ChuckLee]

..but for some strange reason, the hair remained on the arm and under the arm??


Good work there jager!

:lol:

[11Hungrybb]

Nice transformation Jager. Shaving can be a bitch, eh?

[*Bunny*]

Props to wifey for shaving the back :) Amazing job!! Thank you for sharing your pics! :)

Keep up the great work, you are completely re comped your upper..



Wheels??

[jagerbombme]

Props to wifey for shaving the back :) Amazing job!! Thank you for sharing your pics! :)

Keep up the great work, you are completely re comped your upper..



Wheels??

thanks, yea, it sucks being a furback. Wheels are getting worked on. been doing legs for 6 months. never realized the importance really. they're not sticks but they're nothing special. ill snap a few here one of these days

[*Bunny*]

You have made great progress. :) I like the hair much better now as well.

[CHIQUITITA]

Holy WOW!!!!:surprised: Nice transformation Jager!

[jagerbombme]

thanks, i just went and got pinched first time to see where i was. it was in the middle of a high carb day and i was up 5 pounds already from the carbs. fucking carbs bloat me so terribly so fast. but anyways, i feel this is alot more accurate than the handhelds i was relying on. i pinched at 16.1 :( thought i'da been lower. but the lady figured out some stuff and told me 20 pounds of fat to go, so if i tighten this diet, keep the hormones rollin, and cardio, i should be able to drop that in 10 weeks.

[robbb]

Outstanding work jager. Damn those performance enhancing drugs and work ethic....you've just gone from 200lbs of chewed bubblegum to lean and friggen huge bro! Throw away the key on you dude.

Seriously, that's an awesome transformation. You should be quite proud...and you've only just begun bro. Dwell on that! :)

[jagerbombme]

Outstanding work jager. Damn those performance enhancing drugs and work ethic....you've just gone from 200lbs of chewed bubblegum to lean and friggen huge bro! Throw away the key on you dude.

Seriously, that's an awesome transformation. You should be quite proud...and you've only just begun bro. Dwell on that! :)

hehe, thanks bro

[MR. BMJ]

That's one of the better transformations i've seen in a very long time, awesome job bro!!!

You do not even resemble the same guy in the least from your before pics.

2 tips i'd hand out to ya judging on the bodytype:

1. Always run an AI. Since this will be long-term, i'd opt for either AIFM or Aromasin since they have the least effect on lipids, not that that totally matters. I think you may have had problems with AIFM though? Keep Letro and Nolva on hand. If you can afford cabergoline, do that too.

This will make a HUGE difference in any estrogenic fat patterns both while bulking and staying lean.

2. Continue with the carb cycling. Yes, it will be normal for some of the higher carb days to make you feel a little softer. Use low-med GI sources for your carbs. As you lean up, you can get more flexible on this, and cheat a little more too. Keep the cycling year around and master it.

Awesome job again!!!

BMJ
:bmj:

[jagerbombme]

That's one of the better transformations i've seen in a very long time, awesome job bro!!!

You do not even resemble the same guy in the least from your before pics.

2 tips i'd hand out to ya judging on the bodytype:

1. Always run an AI. Since this will be long-term, i'd opt for either AIFM or Aromasin since they have the least effect on lipids, not that that totally matters. I think you may have had problems with AIFM though? Keep Letro and Nolva on hand. If you can afford cabergoline, do that too.

This will make a HUGE difference in any estrogenic fat patterns both while bulking and staying lean.

2. Continue with the carb cycling. Yes, it will be normal for some of the higher carb days to make you feel a little softer. Use low-med GI sources for your carbs. As you lean up, you can get more flexible on this, and cheat a little more too. Keep the cycling year around and master it.

Awesome job again!!!

BMJ
:bmj:

thanks much bro. i will continue the carb cycling. in your opinion. how many days should i go low before a high day. i'd like to go as long as possible without negating the effects (slower metab) 3 low - 1 high is what i've been doing for a week. i was kinda letting my cal's get up there though and i'm watching them carefully now not to break 3K a day. once results start to diminish i'll drop these to 2500.

also, what is low-med GI carbs mean?

carbs i'm sticking to now include, oats/steel cut oats/sweet taters/whole grain pasta/ whole wheat pasta. no bread/fruit/juice/milk/cottagecheese or anything like that.

[MR. BMJ]

Those choices are cool.

To be honost, the really isn't a set plan on what is ideal. I have stayed around 2-4 days on the low carb part until having a higher carb day, and it worked out fine for me. However, you may not even need that many days in the low carb part starting off. I usually add a day whenever I reach a rut. Here are some plans that have been suggested:

NB, who has worked with Wilson6 some in the past likes to have her higher carb days the day before her big lifts, then on that day of the lifts, just have a med amount. The day after is low carb. So the day before legs for sure she goes high.

A lot depends on your workout schedule.

So I seen one of her plans in the past that went sort of like this:

Sun: High carb
Mon: Med carb (legs or some major muscle group)
Tues: Low carb
repeat.

In the past, I would also do my larger carb day on my off day, with just cardio. This way the next day I was already full. Others do the larger carb day the day of their program, and I have done that too, and it works equally as well.

If I train on low carb days, I do not really go too heavy. Maybe 1 set of heavy, then the rest are drop sets or circuit training type sets. I do heavier movements and lifts on the day or or the day after a higher carb day.

As you can see, there just isn't one way to do it right. I've also done it high 1 day, then low 2 days. If on a low day I feel like I need some carbs, i'll throw some in directly postworkout.

Total calories consumed is still gonna be the over-riding factor though.

BMJ
:bmj:

[MR. BMJ]

Here was a pretty good read from the old board.

http://www.afboard.com/forum/anabolic-discussion/19761-cal-carb-cycling-any-primary-science.html

[jagerbombme]

Those choices are cool.

To be honost, the really isn't a set plan on what is ideal. I have stayed around 2-4 days on the low carb part until having a higher carb day, and it worked out fine for me. However, you may not even need that many days in the low carb part starting off. I usually add a day whenever I reach a rut. Here are some plans that have been suggested:

NB, who has worked with Wilson6 some in the past likes to have her higher carb days the day before her big lifts, then on that day of the lifts, just have a med amount. The day after is low carb. So the day before legs for sure she goes high.

A lot depends on your workout schedule.

So I seen one of her plans in the past that went sort of like this:

Sun: High carb
Mon: Med carb (legs or some major muscle group)
Tues: Low carb
repeat.

In the past, I would also do my larger carb day on my off day, with just cardio. This way the next day I was already full. Others do the larger carb day the day of their program, and I have done that too, and it works equally as well.

If I train on low carb days, I do not really go too heavy. Maybe 1 set of heavy, then the rest are drop sets or circuit training type sets. I do heavier movements and lifts on the day or or the day after a higher carb day.

As you can see, there just isn't one way to do it right. I've also done it high 1 day, then low 2 days. If on a low day I feel like I need some carbs, i'll throw some in directly postworkout.

Total calories consumed is still gonna be the over-riding factor though.

BMJ
:bmj:



i see. not too worried about timing the carbs to training because i train like this example

monday chest followed by highrep-lowweight triceps
tuesday upper back followed by highrep-lowweight biceps
wednesday deads and shoulders
thursday heavy biceps triceps forearms abs
friday legs
saturday off
sunday start over

i'm training all the fucking time hehe. might as well when on 1.5g juice minimum.

i'm liking the 3 low 1 high then. it seems easy to me, so i'll stick with it and hopefully keep seeing results.

low days i'm hitting about 100-130 carbs and high days 250
seem to hit about 70-100g fat ed
protien seems to be between 270 and 350

i see about total calories. this is what i'm getting tighter on. mostly i've stayed around 3100, some of my high carb days though have shot to 4-5000. hehe. not good. so i'm gonna keep my cals at 3000 or less. really shooting for 2500. in a month i'll tighten it up even more.