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Mr.Meat
04-05-2008, 11:55 AM
Just on update on the pain I have experiancing in the inner part of my right knee. As per this thread:
http://www.afboard.com/forum/rehab-injury-prevention/1613-knee-tendon-pain.html
For the last couple of weeks I've been looking at different knee braces to help me stabilize my knee while training mobility type events (super yoke, farmers, etc). As this is how I re-injured my knee.
I looked on-line as well as some drug stores and was prepared to pay around $150 for a neoprene hinged knee brace. Most looked preaty cheap and I would probably destroy it in one season.
So yesterday I went to a local shop that specializes in orthotics and prosthetics. They did an assesment on my knee and based on the pain I described they came up with the following conclusion:
My right leg, the leg with the knee that hurts is: 1/4" shorter then the left leg, I am pigeon toed on this leg and most importantly I am also bow-legged on this leg... Which all translates into a much higher loading on the inside knee capsule then on the right.
Last summer while doing a max weight farmers walk I hyper-extended my right knee (370lbs per hand), the most likely result was damage to the inner meniscus of my right knee. Now apperantly this will just work itself out in time as long as I don't keep on reinjuring this area.
So what the dude suggested is a semi-ridgid knee brace that will un-load the inner capsule of my knee and spread out the load over the entire joint. Now the best part is I will be getting this unit for almost free since it is covered under my group insurance through work... shweet!!
So I'm getting a ~$600+ custom molded Donjoy knee brace for around $20 and I do believe that he is right concerning the meniscus damage as I can still do anything I want I just have to endure some discomfort along the way. But if it was ligament damage I dout I would be able to do 300+lb front squats and stuff like that.
Sarge
04-05-2008, 12:13 PM
That's awesome! Congrats on finding a knowledgeable place and getting a quality diagnosis and solution :)
strawberryriddick
04-06-2008, 10:09 AM
It's good you found a brace that will help you during this time, but try finding an orthopaedic specialist who does physical therapy to see if there's anything he/she can do to actually fix your situation (unbow your leg, straighted out your pigeon toes). What you're getting is someone who adjusts you like a chiropractor, except for your entire body instead of just your back. Additionally, he/she will use a "strain/counterstrain" technique which causes your own flexing (while placed in strange positions) to pull yourself into proper alignment.
If your insurance covers physical therapy, they should cover these visits.
Mr.Meat
04-06-2008, 02:23 PM
It's good you found a brace that will help you during this time, but try finding an orthopaedic specialist who does physical therapy to see if there's anything he/she can do to actually fix your situation (unbow your leg, straighted out your pigeon toes). What you're getting is someone who adjusts you like a chiropractor, except for your entire body instead of just your back. Additionally, he/she will use a "strain/counterstrain" technique which causes your own flexing (while placed in strange positions) to pull yourself into proper alignment.
If your insurance covers physical therapy, they should cover these visits.
I was gonna do that next, but I'm having trouble finding a good one. I really need somebody with a background in sports rehab not just "I took courses in this so I know what I'm doing" kinda thing.
Is there a governing body orthepedic specialists?
I was gonna do that next, but I'm having trouble finding a good one. I really need somebody with a background in sports rehab not just "I took courses in this so I know what I'm doing" kinda thing.
Is there a governing body orthepedic specialists?
in what region of the country are you?
jenscats5
04-16-2008, 10:38 PM
Glad you found a brace!! I loved my Donjoy brace.....You may want to get some A&D ointment (the cream) if it ends up chafing you.....
dyoda
06-04-2008, 12:41 PM
DonJoy=Best Quality!
The others(knee braces) that you can order online, or get at a drugstore never fit propperly, and as result never give the support they are supposed to offer.
Always wear your brace if you are going to be active, or walking around on it all day. This will give you support needed to remain comfortable(walking), and confident(active) always.
If you find that you are getting chaffing, try applying powder to your leg before putting it on, or find a pair of snug fitting/breathable tights, and cut out the size you need to cover your skin under the brace.
Good luck, and remember to keep it elevated as often as possible, and drink your usual high dose of water to speed up recovery.
Just on update on the pain I have experiancing in the inner part of my right knee. As per this thread:
http://www.afboard.com/forum/rehab-injury-prevention/1613-knee-tendon-pain.html
For the last couple of weeks I've been looking at different knee braces to help me stabilize my knee while training mobility type events (super yoke, farmers, etc). As this is how I re-injured my knee.
I looked on-line as well as some drug stores and was prepared to pay around $150 for a neoprene hinged knee brace. Most looked preaty cheap and I would probably destroy it in one season.
So yesterday I went to a local shop that specializes in orthotics and prosthetics. They did an assesment on my knee and based on the pain I described they came up with the following conclusion:
My right leg, the leg with the knee that hurts is: 1/4" shorter then the left leg, I am pigeon toed on this leg and most importantly I am also bow-legged on this leg... Which all translates into a much higher loading on the inside knee capsule then on the right.
Last summer while doing a max weight farmers walk I hyper-extended my right knee (370lbs per hand), the most likely result was damage to the inner meniscus of my right knee. Now apperantly this will just work itself out in time as long as I don't keep on reinjuring this area.
So what the dude suggested is a semi-ridgid knee brace that will un-load the inner capsule of my knee and spread out the load over the entire joint. Now the best part is I will be getting this unit for almost free since it is covered under my group insurance through work... shweet!!
So I'm getting a ~$600+ custom molded Donjoy knee brace for around $20 and I do believe that he is right concerning the meniscus damage as I can still do anything I want I just have to endure some discomfort along the way. But if it was ligament damage I dout I would be able to do 300+lb front squats and stuff like that.
Killer
06-06-2008, 12:56 PM
Mr. Meat - Like was said, where are you at?
"most likely result was damage to the inner meniscus of my right knee. Now apperantly this will just work itself out in time as long as I don't keep on reinjuring this area."
Could have certainly happened. But, a meniscuc tear will not repair itself due to poor blood supply.
Go to an orthopedist and get it checked out. Physical therapy is a great idea (which was mentioned). Some states require an RX to get pt.
Polski Byk
06-29-2008, 11:40 PM
I was gonna do that next, but I'm having trouble finding a good one. I really need somebody with a background in sports rehab not just "I took courses in this so I know what I'm doing" kinda thing.
Is there a governing body orthepedic specialists?
You where in Jersey.....the best rehab guys you hung out with all weekend.:wavey3:
Mr.Meat
06-30-2008, 01:38 AM
Mr. Meat - Like was said, where are you at?
"most likely result was damage to the inner meniscus of my right knee. Now apperantly this will just work itself out in time as long as I don't keep on reinjuring this area."
Could have certainly happened. But, a meniscuc tear will not repair itself due to poor blood supply.
Go to an orthopedist and get it checked out. Physical therapy is a great idea (which was mentioned). Some states require an RX to get pt.
The knee brace turned out to be 95% useless. The only time I can really use it is buring back squats and while yoking. Regardless my knee still hurts, the brace allows me to train but nothing has really changed.
I will look into physio tho, see what it can do for me.
You where in Jersey.....the best rehab guys you hung out with all weekend.:wavey3:
I know, but it came down to time. It just flew by... I needed another week.
Pixie
06-30-2008, 07:02 AM
Is there a governing body orthepedic specialists?
Go to the American Physical Therapy Association, or APTA (APTA | Home (http://www.apta.org/)) and look for someone with an "OCS". This is someone that is a certified orthopaedic specialist. Once you've narrowed it down there, look for someone that states they work in the area of sports rehab and start making phone calls. Make sure you get the chance to meet or at least speak to the therapist. He won't be able to give you too much information without doing an evaluation, but talking to him/her can give you an important first impression.
If you can find someone that will work with electical stimulation, ultrasound, massage, manual therapy (key component), has a complete gym (not just a bench and DB's up to 15 pounds)... bonus if they have a pool. The pool may not be necessary for you, but it's a nice addition and a potential sign that they look "outside of the box" when it comes to rehabbing.
I've had some incredible PT's that were very understanding when it comes to the athlete mentality. Some of these people were athletes themselves, some weren't. So, don't just go solely on the fact that they are currently involved in a sport. One of my worst PT's was heavily involved in athletics, and my all-time best herself didn't do much more than walk and take her kids to their sport practices. It's more about how you feel around them, not all about their athletic background. If you feel comfortable with them putting their hands on your knees, if you think you can relax with them, then give them a shot. However, do not hesitate to ask for someone else to treat you, or a change in PT's if you don't feel comfortable with them.
(Note: Info coming from a member of the APTA)
Mr.Meat
06-30-2008, 09:02 AM
Go to the American Physical Therapy Association, or APTA (APTA | Home (http://www.apta.org/)) and look for someone with an "OCS". This is someone that is a certified orthopaedic specialist. Once you've narrowed it down there, look for someone that states they work in the area of sports rehab and start making phone calls. Make sure you get the chance to meet or at least speak to the therapist. He won't be able to give you too much information without doing an evaluation, but talking to him/her can give you an important first impression.
If you can find someone that will work with electical stimulation, ultrasound, massage, manual therapy (key component), has a complete gym (not just a bench and DB's up to 15 pounds)... bonus if they have a pool. The pool may not be necessary for you, but it's a nice addition and a potential sign that they look "outside of the box" when it comes to rehabbing.
I've had some incredible PT's that were very understanding when it comes to the athlete mentality. Some of these people were athletes themselves, some weren't. So, don't just go solely on the fact that they are currently involved in a sport. One of my worst PT's was heavily involved in athletics, and my all-time best herself didn't do much more than walk and take her kids to their sport practices. It's more about how you feel around them, not all about their athletic background. If you feel comfortable with them putting their hands on your knees, if you think you can relax with them, then give them a shot. However, do not hesitate to ask for someone else to treat you, or a change in PT's if you don't feel comfortable with them.
(Note: Info coming from a member of the APTA)
Thanks!
Pixie
07-02-2008, 08:46 AM
Any time... hope it helps and wasn't too late.
How's the knee?
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