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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 08:28 PM
Hi all, this is BMJ. I am gonna copy and paste the Mr. Nobody thread that was honoring our fallen brother. I can copy and paste the members original posts from that thread, so bare with me here, and I hope it turns out okay:)
Thanks!
BMJ
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 08:40 PM
mike:
PitBoyBjj, a fellow AF member, has let us know that our Supermoderator and close, dear friend Mr. Nobody died today in a motorcycle accident.
Mr. Nobody had been part of the AF Family for over 5 years and contributed a ton of first-hand knowledge and advice to many people over the course of his stay.
More information will be posted as we are informed.
Mr. Nobody will be missed and most definitely never forgotten.
Ulter will be here soon to post more, as he had a closer relationship with Mr. Nobody.
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NubianBeauty:
We're going to miss him a GREAT deal!!!! He has helped so many in our online community!
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Caligula:
This is really a tradgedy...this shouldn't have happened.
NB said it spot on above.
We will miss you greatly Mr. N. I'll think of more to say later...I'm speechless.
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the-short-one:
omg - I'm so sorry.
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Monster:
I dont even believe this. We were just sitting around talking about him and old times.
Im floored by this. I cant even remeber the last time I cried.
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NubianBeauty:
I'm completely speechless. I feel soooooooo sorry for his wife and kids.
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*Bunny*:
^^
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Cutt29:
wow, i am very sorry to hear about this.
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PO1NTBL4NK:
My condolences
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Caligula:
This is all I keep thinking of... it makes me so sad.
http://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/2...7&m=8931044441
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BLOODTIDE
This is not the way to start a new year.
My condolences to his family.
RIP Bro!
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NubianBeauty:
Caligula, Me too!!
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NubianBeauty:
Here's the post:
Henry Asencio Painted my Daughter
"Henry turned down 3 professional models for this project and chose my daughter (who was suggested by the gallerie director out of the blue). People are willing to PAY a lot of money for him to paint them.
His work is very well respected and he has had shows all over Europe and the US.
He named the painting and drawing after my daughter's middle name and they are not for sale to the public, but will be offered to me only.
Henry was so enchanted and inspired by her, that he will be doing his next series in "copper", like her hair.
I had to contain my tears as to not appear so emotional, but to have an artist pick your offspring and to adore that person (who curiously does not think of herself as pretty at all), to call her his "muse" and to be as gracious and humble as he was, blew me away.
This will be a memory for a life time for everybody in my family (and documented with valuable art to top it off)"
Mr. Nobody posted 2/11/07
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Bgriff:
All I can say is that It always sucks to hear of a good bro dying or hearing of anyone dying. His family will be in my prayers.
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MR. BMJ:
I can't even post on this right now, as it hurts very deeply. Today, we lost a mountain of a man, a big, BIG BROTHER! I am totally at a loss of words on all this. I have looked up to this guy for years now, and thought of him as a big brother myself. I can't imagine what Ulter, cg and Monster are feeling, as I do know that they were dear real-life friends with him. I can't even get my thoughts straight on what to say, but I do know that I lost somebody that I dearly looked up to and loved very much like he was a member of my very own family. I feel this way for every moderator at this board. Mr. Nobody was different, very different, and unless you had a chance to know him over these past years, you will not even understand how much of a great guy he was. He was a leader for all of us to follow. His memory will never die with us, and definately not in myself, ever.
My utmost sincerity and deepest sincerity go out to his wife, daughter, and son. I keep running over his excitement over the new board. I seen a spark of that kid again that had been in hiding for a few years now. He was such a big inspiration to all of us. His wife and family meant everything to him, and I just hope they know this.
Ulter should be along soon and give the details of what he knows. Please, give a prayer for our big brother and his family. A very huge piece of the AF family was lost today, and we just ask that you give a prayer for his family...even though he was not the most religious of people.
You would not find a better member of this board than what he was to it.
Today, much like my good friend Monster, I find out that I can still cry over somebody that I really loved and cared for.
I will miss you Mr. N!
One of many little brothers who admired and looked up to you,
MR. BMJ
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NubianBeauty:
WOW!! Thanks B!!! I knew you could sum up in words what all of us Mods are feeling.
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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 08:56 PM
Caligula:
For those who didn't know him, a typical Mr. Nobody response:
This was what I replied to your previous post on my thread.
And I will expand:
You and many other people may have the ability to sense fields which are hidden to others.
The universe is full of "quantum energy fluctuations", which basically means that out of nothing comes something and then as quickly as it came it gets annihilated. This is a fact, a mathematical fact of our universe in the smallest of scales (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle). So why should you not be able to see spent life energy? Energy not visible to others
Where I part from you is the interpretation. I do not belief it to be the soul of your father but nothing more than a scent, a shadow, an afterglow of what he once was. Without merit nor judgment, what you and others sensed was spent energy. Energy of a broken man who fought his own demons and lost. Suicide and homicide are violent deaths, deaths without resolve nor submission, without peace and as such may create an enormous release of energy an imprint so to speak, an imprint, which can be sensed by the sensitive and/or close by (in non-spatial and non temporal sense). I still insist that we, as conscious sentient beings "grow" souls and do not inherit them. We grow them from the origin (god) and share them for a limited time in this corporal existence. We are just cells of a much larger existence, not unlike cells and molecules of our own body. We do not live on as individuals but seize to exist by giving back what we "borrowed"
We will miss posts like this cause we need posts like this. Deep and thoughtful. If only we could back up time.
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Caligula:
To NB: "I second that...:("
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mike:
Quote by Mr. Nobody: "We are just cells of a much larger existence, not unlike cells and molecules of our own body. We do not live on as individuals but seize to exist by giving back what we "borrowed"
Mike: "Very cool.. wish I could have experienced more of his posts."
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TShoot:
My prayers and condolences to his family. I can't even begin to imagine.
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MR. BMJ
His words of wisdom, his knowledge, his love for his family, his excitement for his daughter, his excitement for this new board, his everlasting love for his wife, his firm beliefs, his respect, his friendship to me and all the mods, the love for his motorcycle, his jokes and sense of humor, and most of all his chinese food buffet threads will forever last in my mind.
There will never be another like him ever. Each person has their own uniqueness to them, but Mr. N was just far beyond this...compared to a lot of us.
BMJ
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Monster:
I have so many things I want to say but for once in my life I dont have the words to express them. CG is very broken up over this as well, and I may go and see him at work... I dont know. I dont know that I can talk to anyone right now about this... either way Im going to go out for a while and clear my head. I'll be back later and hopefully I can collect myself enough to say something more about all of this.
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Blut Wump:
Condolences to all.
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CK (mommyCK):
My prayers are with his family and anyone that knew him.
I am so sorry for your loss.
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thermo:
Thoughts and prayers for family and friends during this tragic time. Really sorry to hear about this.
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Caligula:
I'm so sorry Monster, Cg, Larry, and all that knew him face to face. I did not but I feel like I did. I wish I had. I can only imagine how hard this must be to all who knew him closely. Though I guess I feel like we all kinda knew him closely.
He filled a role we needed on this board. The big guy with old school knowlege and intelligence and wisdom to match. He added such a presence to this board. He was always around to throw in his .02 cents, but it was worth so much more than that. He treated each post as if it were his first and he was really striving to make a difference where he could.
I can't think of a more inopportune moment to pass away. He had it all, or at least what I aspire to achieve in life. And now he is gone.
To me he was a mentor and a role model...and a friend. He will truly be missed.
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ChefWide:
There are moments when a person of true generosity is taken that i get angry and inevitable and unanswerable 'whys' race through my head.
No point in belabouring the observation that his being taken serves no point. Yet I struggle with the fragility of it all and looked at my kids just now playing, and held them so tight i thought i might burst. Now is the time to celebrate those around you, and the memory of a very strong and very giving man.
I know his family will suffer but in the long run will shine as what he has left them must be of great wonder: a part of himself. He left us with just a taste, in them he exists. The only comfort I have is that I took some of his words with me and will always. I did not know him like you all knew him, but feel no less blessed for this axe having met the grindstone, with what little we shared, i am better for it.
Until next time, Mr. N.
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Sarge:
....:rose:
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macrophage69alpha:
a great loss, for his family and ours.
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Dragon:
This is Terrible ! My deepest condolences!
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kapalaran (kap):
OMG...my heart is broken. I am floored, stunned, in shock...my deepest condolences to anyone and everyone who he had in his life.
I just can't believe this. I am sad I never got to meet him...
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Starsky669:
R.i.p
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usualsuspect0718:
My sincere condolences to his family and friends. I don't know what else to say.
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odoyal rulez:
Bummer...
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e-double:
Max (aka Mr.Nobody on tha AF board) was someone I looked up to.
I listened to his advice and gave his posts and ideas careful attention, the opportunity to share with someone whom I respected so much was always a great pleasure.
I will miss him.
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My deeper understanding if you wish...
In dealing with death, try not to let your mind look back with regret,
“if only I had of done this or said that” Focus on the times you did share and not what didn’t happen.
At a tier(level) of connectivity, all of it, your respect, your care, your love, is already known.
Consider how you would like to honor and respect Max in the present and future, how you want to draw from your experience with him.
I’m going to go hike to the top of a hill, I will then spend some time meditating this early afternoon, I will focus on healing for his family; the ability for them in years to come to move forward and allow even this to be a beautiful aspect of who they are.
To draw Max's wisdom, humor, understanding, strength, from inside is available and I will focus on this as well.
As far as that culmination of energy(spirit), I will let that energy know that it is beautiful and deserves to be, go, where ever it wishes. It is not bound by time nor limited by only one instance of itself in time.
Max's energy(spirit) can be available to his family and friends, as well as simultaneously moving on.
e-double
( bigcatstyle )
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Meau:
My condolences to all. I respected and enjoyed him on the board.
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mackman:
Terrible loss, prayers for his family from mine.
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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:04 PM
Kapalaran:
Fellow Moderators,
I want to make a thread remembering the best of this incredible human being. Ulter, et al, do you agree, do I have the majority's blessing? We owe it to him...And I would be honored to either put it up or contribute to a thread like that. I am compelled to do it.
I am so numb in his passing...I feel like I got robbed because I was really looking forward to meeting him someday. I can't describe how I feel, or even why, cause I didn't know him from anyone in real life...yet he was such an important part of my online community of good people...for an all too short 7 years. Even more reason to get everyone together at this year's Arnold. For once, I have a very real reason to get there this year. Life is too short.
Mr. Nobody, brother, friend, confidant, mentor, role model, an incredible person all around, in more than 100 ways. We know you're watching us from a better place. We love you bro!
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Ulter:
Sure thing. He was a good friend. ...(Snip...).... Making us all laugh, but doing it for me, just to help out a friend. I was really looking forward to him meeting T-Cake today. I'm sorry she'll never hear his Arnold impersonation of a voice and laugh. I will miss that laugh, his posts, his friendship and heart.
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20SS02:
I'm so sorry to see this. My best to his family and friends.
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NubianBeauty:
:cry:
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blu:
I am saddened to here of Max passing. Always such a shock.
I was always impressed by his desire to share what he was learning...and he was ever so humble in certain topics to admit he was just making new strides himself.
Consistently seeking to improve himself and others...
My prayers and condolences for Max's family
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takniteasy:
So sorry to hear of this tragedy! My heartfelt condolences to his family, friends and all that have been touched by him. :(
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Slo Mo:
I am having a hard time believing this too. Speechless and don't know what to say. My heart goes out to the family
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HeLives07:
I don't know him but judging by the response in this thread he was an intelligent and caring individual who is loved by many. I pray that God gives his family and friends the peace they need to get through their loss.
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*Bunny*
(Snipped...) Im so sorry. My condolences to all of you that new him & his fam but losing a friend like that you were just going to see, then something came up... that stings pretty hard too...
Id love for you all to try to hit the A next year like PA said
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DOGGY:
I've been here since the day the board opened; I trust you guys and gals like no other friends in the world...Max was a giant among men and good solid father & husband.
He will be missed by all...rest in peace big man!
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:08 PM
phattius:
I've been following this board for years, but more of a lurker than an avid poster... strange how you can follow someone through mere posts on the Internet and never meet them face to face... Yet, you are shocked just as if you knew them personally when you hear news such as this.
Death is never easy, especially under tragic circumstances... You can tell from all the posts how many people he was able to reach in a very special way... To me, his insight and willingness to help anyone with questions will be greatly missed.
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G21:
This comes as a great shock i remember reading his posts...witty, cunning, he made you think, and added a much needed presence to AF. RIP Max my prayers are with your family.
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pong21:
Very sorry to hear this, RIP.
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Iron Island:
I wish the best for his family and friends.
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Kapalaran:
Brothers and Sisters,
You are all encouraged to join us in celebrating the life of Mr. Nobody. He will be missed dearly, however we all know he would love to see us go on and remember him fondly.
I have shed my tears today, and reflected on how much we have been taught by this awesome individual. What a complex yet whole-hearted guy. I can't say enough about him.
Even though I hardly posted on the Off-topic forum, I made sure to read most of his commentary. Any topic he put even one iota of effort into was a worthwhile read, and don't even get me started on how many minds he blew with his philosophies and knowledge of the hard sciences. I need to dig some of those posts out from the archives.
The reality of this tragedy still hasn't hit me...
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Caligula:
When things calm down a bit we will have to merge this all into one post.
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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:08 PM
cg:
My Friend MrN.
I sit here speechless. I don't know what to say. I didn't get on the board earlier because I didn't want to face this. I was working today and Monster called me. He asked if I had seen the board. I told him that I hadn't. He told me MrN was dead. I kept repeating "Oh My God!" I can't express to you how I feel about this man. He was my big brother. I looked up to him and I loved him very much. I haven't cried this hard in 10 years....when my grandfather who raised me passed away.
This post is going to be run on sentences and fragment, please forgive me for that as it's 2am and I am finally able to write a little.
MrN was one of the people that greeted me with open arms when I became a Moderator here. He made me feel welcome on the board and welcome when I met him. His persona on here was amplified in real life. He had a charisma about him that drew you in and it wasn't threatening, but welcoming. He joked all the time. I remember his laugh and his smile. He just made you feel good to be around.
I am crying now as I write this. I called Ulter a couple times today and wept. I tried like hell to keep this in, but I loved the man dearly. We always used to tease each other back and forth on the Mod board. The last week with the opening of the new board, he was enjoying picking on me for being a midget, called me a nerd and it was just in fun. MrN never took himself too seriously, which he could have. He was one of the smartest people I have ever met. He was downright hilarious and genuine with the biggest heart in the world. He was larger than life in everyway. When you are 6ft4, 300lbs and have veins the size of my fingers in your forearms you can be intimidating, but I never felt that with MrN because of his warmth. Jesus this is hard. My eyes hurt from crying.
I recently took the Ford buyout and am in school to be a Nurse Anesth. Mr N found out, called me and offered me a job in a hospital in Florida. He had talked to the head of the hospital and asked if they had an opening for his "little buddy." The head said that he did and MrN called me and offered it to me if I wanted to move to Florida. I told him that I can't uproot like that. He gave me some great advise and told me if I ever needed anything to call him. What an amazing guy.
He was Statler and I was Waldorf. MrN always used to say you could tell the mood he was in from his avatar. We used to joke with people online and tease and talk about it on the Admin board. We both loved the Muppets and said that the two of us were like the old dudes on the balcony making fun and cracking jokes. We were. Two days ago MrN changed his avater...you can see what mine is. Man he used to love to tease me. I really felt that he loved me as a friend and I really loved him as mine. I can't express how I feel. I have been crying on and off all fucking day. My wife has been great in all this.
I don't know what I would have done without the words to me from Ulter. He calmed me down and spoke and comforted me and I really needed it. I just wish this was some stupid joke and not real. I wish this were a prank pulled by somebody with a dark sense of humor and MrN would go, beat them up and come back to the board laughing and waxing philosophical again. I have been staring at his number on my phone all day....just wanting to call it and have him pick up the phone.
His wife is from the Michigan area and couldn't be a nicer person. I never met his children, but he was a fantastic father who I know has instilled them with the same character and integrity that was a trademark of their father. He was so proud of his family and had every reason to be.
I told you I don't know what to say. I had to get this off my chest. For those of you who knew him, you relate to what I am saying. To those who didn't, know that everything I say is true. He was one of the kindest, warmest and greatest people I have ever come across in my life. It hurts so much. It just hurts so very much. I wish I could access the old moderator threads from the other board to share with you some of the funniest stories that you have ever read in your life.
MrN, you will always be Statler to me. You were my friend and it was an honor to know you. I will miss you so very much....so very much. I love you my brother.
Cg
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:16 PM
cg:
I want to get the old Moderator posts on the mod board so I can sift through them and share some really funny stories about my friend.
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cg:
I posted a sticky about how I feel. I just felt I needed to do that for some reason. I hope you don't mind.
http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20453
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Frackal
:( Man I'm gonna miss him and his posts
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Sam:
this is sad ...my condolances to everybody...
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Genesis:
My condolences to his wife, daughter and son. Is always hard to loose somebody we loved but he will be in a better place. RIP
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Slo Mo:
He was almost mythilogical to me. Like a Greek God. Reading his stories and posts was always informative and hilarious. I always heard about his 6'5" 300lbs frame, like he was Hercules himself. Never got a chance to meet him or talk to him. But my heart goes out to his family. Tomorrow is not promised to anyone, we must live each day like its our last.
I ride myself and I am seriously thinking about calling it quits. The world has loat a great human being that can never be equaled or replaced.
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Kapalaran:
Quote by cg: "...share some really funny stories about my friend."
Kapalaran response: There is a whole shitload...the guy was pure entertainment at times! We had some good times!:lol: :D
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Kapalaran:
Quote by Slo Mo: "He was almost mythilogical to me. Like a Greek God."
Kapalaran: "Slomo, you've hit the nail on the head. The feats he pulled off in the gym...mindblowing."
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Kapalaran:
By Mr. N. One of many threads that blew my mind.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, follow Alice and I down the rabbit hole into a world of wonders, a world of the infinitesimal small, and eternally large, a world that is real and a world that is outside reality.quote: Originally quoted by Einstein"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." Beautiful quote.quote:Originally quoted by EinsteinGod does not gamble with the universe yes, he does, or better yet, he is not in control, we are.It so happens that quantum mechanics has established itself in the real world through numerous calculations and observations and that this world of the subatomic is fickle indeed. Locations and speed of the super small can never be established at the same time. They are defined by wave functions. This does not mean that we are physically unable to perform those measurements. It means that those particles do not have measurable location and speed at the same time. It is as if you are looking at the boundary of what matter really is. Matter is nothing but energy E=MC2. The science community describes this reality as the fog of quantum uncertainty. In layman terms, it means that if you could look through the microscope down into the subatomic, you encounter particles that dot in and out of existence and all you see is fog no matter how much you zoom in.....These energy undulations are extremely small however. And when you apply the "fog" to a large system such as "our" touchable reality, quantum uncertainty "overlaps and interferes with each other" (decoherance) to create the determinations of our finely tuned real world. So basically, we all live on borrowed energy. We all are particles that dot in and out of existence. We all live in a pixilated world, a world defined on a minimum planck energy, planck time and plank space scale. We are in a big video game.Enter the laws of physics for our reality:Have you ever wondered, how the world is held together, why the 4 fundamental forces (gravity, strong and weak atomic force and electromagnetic force) and fundamental particles differ in strength and mass so much, why there is such a peculiar relationship? Why not? I propose that the laws of physics are/were not pre-determined, that they were not given to us by God, but that they evolved. They evolved to create this reality a stage for a mind to investigate. I propose a reality that involves multiverses in different dimensions or spacetimes, each universe a universe where the laws of physical reality evolved differently and where the forces do not produce a finely tuned reality. These multiverses exist(ed) in those other realms to create the path of our universe, Darwin style. Natural selection determined which laws would produce consciousness, conscinesness intelligent enough to probe these fundamental questions. Each universe adapted, learned and evolved to become us through eternal expansion and contraction. We are here, because we think about being here!!!!Enter free will, thought energy and how you determine your local reality:Your thoughts determine your reality, period. If you think you are evil, than you are evil. If you think your are divine, than your reality is divinity. Since your existence is confined inside your brain and you are more than the sum of your particles, you can be reduced to thought energy. Thought energy is what distinguished you from your surroundings. In the sub-atomic world, we have shown that matter is nothing but energy, no true solids exist, what you touch, what you feel, is the electromagnetic force field of your fingers interacting with the electromagnetic force field of the object. If atoms would touch, you would create a nuclear reaction, therefore nothing really ever touches. Spinning fields interact, that's it. Even atoms are not matter, there core are quarks and leptons bound together by the strong force. And all we know is that quarks and leptons are smaller than 10-19 meters in radius. As far as we can tell, they have no internal structure or even any size. It is possible that future evidence will, once again, show this understanding to be an illusion and demonstrate that there is substructure within the particles that we now view as fundamental. Here we go again, even quarks are nothing tangible. String theory puts a stop to this nonsense and finally proclaims that all matter and force particles are vibrations of energy strings. The pattern that I see emerge, is that as said above, nothing solid exists, we are all energy held together with more energy.Thought energy is different. It is electric current that produces awareness. This awareness is outside of the physical realm and exists in addition to the sum of the particles that comprises your body. In life it is confined inside your brain to form the you. It interacts through speech with other yous. This interaction in turn creates our reality. Thoughts have energy and it is my understanding that this energy has an effect on the physical world. First, your thoughts create your behavioral pattern which you use to influence your world. Second, a collection of similar thoughts will merge and interact in a way not dissimilar to decoherance of the quantum world. Prayer works.O.k., the above is some of my latest theories in my attempt to explain it all. My attempt to formulate a Theory of Everything has led me to the above observations, firmly grounded in the physical world with minimum reliance to metaphysics. It is my journey, my thoughts and nothing else..........Please submit your questions, critiques and assume this to be a draft, a collection of thoughts thrown together as material for discussion as some details may be incomplete or incorrectThanks___________________________________ _________________________________________________A ny society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.Benjamin Franklin Disclaimer:Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.[This message was edited by Mr. Nobody on 05-07-05 at 12:35 PM.]
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:23 PM
MR. BMJ:
SlowMo...that is 6'5" and 275-300-lbs of LEAN muscle. Hardly any fat on him at all. The guy was a freak. He was a MAN among boys here. His stats are mind blowing to say the least. This has yet to reach most of the members of AF. Mondays are our busiest time here. I hope Bjaarki stops by, as Mr. N really respected him a lot. I am gonna go back and read some of his posts....there are just so many going through my head right now....the mod stuff, ragging on Bjaarki for asking about his daughter, on...and on....and on....it will go. The guy was the type of person that holds the respect of everybody in the room. When Mr. N spoke, you listened. Dead silence would occur when he spoke, and everybody would cherish what he had to say...others would probably do it out of fear because he was such a freaked out statured man.
I never got to meet him in person, and that really bugs the shit out of me. All the newbies to the site are getting a raw deal on never being able to converse with him here on the new board. Of all people, I could not wait for all the new members coming over to be able to meet him. He was a hidden gem, and one that only a few of us here at AF got to keep to ourselves and feel rich.
BMJ
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Kapalaran:
CG, my heart goes out to you. Such a huge loss for you...I sit here looking at the keys, but my fingers can't find the keys to punch...:(
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Gymgurl
My prayers go out to his family and everyone who loved him!
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Gymgurl:
((((HUGS))))) CG......His memory will live on through you and others....
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Kapalaran:
cg, I sent you a PM with my #. Please don't hesitate to call me if you want to talk.
Stride forward. He would want us all to continue on, with fond memories of him always, to make us think, act, and strive to be better human beings.
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kleinerjuergen69:
Ruhe in Frieden mein Freund
condolences to his family
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rocko:
Truly don't know what to say - other then Mr. N will be so terribly missed. Every time I saw that he had responded to a post I would read it as it was gaurnteed to have something useful in it. This is such a tragic loss, my heart goes out to his family, both home and here on the board.
RIP Iron Brother....
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Monster:
Forgive me for not starting a post of my own.
Ive have seriously started to type one 5 or 6 times now, but I cant make it all the way through. At some point, every time, i just loose the ability to put together coherent thoughts...
I dont mourn well and I suffer loss in a strange way. It doesnt hit me all at once, and I dont ever seem to manage to grieve in a big way at one point. My grief always seems to be less severe but last for a long, long time. We'll all begin to adjust to life without him, and even months down the line I'll see something that clicks in me and I'll feel the loss the same way I felt it yesterday.
Today I clicked on a post he was on, and I couldnt help but be moved by (and this may seem stupid) the little light next to his name. It struck me that I will never again see that light turn green.
I dont know what else to say right now. Im trying really hard to maintain my composure at work. I had to close my office door to have a few minutes without interruptions...
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Blut Wump:
Powerful and lasting words, CG. Something I always try to cleave to when a loved one moves on is that they are always with us and in a sense always alive so long as we remember them. You'll never forget your friend, hold dear to your memories and relive your friendship in them.
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HULK1550:
i dont know what to say, this is not the way i wanted to start the week. its terrible news. i feel bad for enjoying the weekend not knowing something terrible happened, especially since it happened to such a great guy. he was an awesome person and a great member of this board. i can remember so many stories and without going into a few of them i will just say he was an amazingly balanced person.
he could give you the most inciteful piece of advice, into training, or more importantly life, and the next minute having you spit your coffee all over your screen because something else was so funny.
He will be missed.
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anibolism:
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:28 PM
MR. BMJ:
That is absolutely Awesome Anibolism!!! Please do come back and share.
Thanks for coming here, and yes, if it makes things easier for you, and it is therapeutic, then please continue sharing my friend. This is great stuff.
BMJ
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NubianBeauty:
WOW!! Too cool anibolism!!!!! Thx!!! :worship:
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Bjaarki:
Funny, when I first met Mr. N we were nearly enemies. This was years ago, more years than I want to admit. I'd polished and buffed one of my patented dissertation-quality threads, and this "Mr. Nobody" who was a brand-new Mod on AF and who I didn't know from a hole in the ground, jumped on it with some disparaging one-liner that just really pissed me off. So I wrote to Ulter about it (Remember that, Boss?) asking who the fuck this dumb-ass new Mod was, and I wrote to Mr. N himself with a big "Fuck You, Buddy !!!" kind of challenge. I tell you now I was amazed by his reply. He wrote back right away, told me that his flip remark was just his big-dumb-Austrian stab at humor, told me he liked my stuff, and was sorry we'd gotten off to a bad start. What a narcissistic little dope I was! And what a gracious gentleman he was. That was the story with him, ever after. I am glad to say, though it hurts me now, that he and I became good friends .....
I met him at Ulter's, and was stunned by his appearance. He looked like a pro, huge as hell, so big upstairs that he was the kind of guy who could hold an easy chair behind him in one hand and say "Guess what I've got behind my back!" He was just so built, and tanned, and healthy, and hairy as a monkey, worse than me, at least when I met him. And he was, as ever, gracious, and funny, and both interested and interesting, something so few people really are, you know. When I met him I was mortified that, on meeting him as I said above, I'd ever tried to start trouble with him. He could have crushed me like a leaf, not that he would ever have wanted to.
I always followed his threads. When Mr. N posted it, you knew it would be interesting. Even when the thread was full of that whacked-out string theory BS he was so enamored of and loved to peddle here. Remember that crap? I used to laugh at that, and laugh at him directly on the phone about it when we would talk, about his pretensions to cosmological transcendence. I never knew that he would, as he has, beat me in transcending to some other plane, so far ahead (I hope) of my own passing. I'll miss that big quirky bastard like I would miss a brother, which he was, and only wish now that I had returned his phone call to me of last week, as I promised I would do but didn't. Stupid little regrets like that seize me now.
My heart goes out to his family (which I didn't know) and especially to Ulter, who I know held Mr. N. in a place of special affection. I don't know if Mr. N. returned it - he always seem to have his heart filled with love for his children and for his wife - his wife! - who he seemed to regard, whatever the ups and downs of married life - with a marital devotion I can only dream about - but I'm sure he did return Ulter's love. Mr. N. was like that, loyalty to kith and kin was the very center of his life. Man, he used to get so damned mad and moralistic with me, over my family and marital problems, remember that?, even when he was striving with rough patches of his own. But there was one thing I always knew, and that was that he spoke - always, and I mean always - out of a place of love.
I'm thinking now of the big lug, and that crazy accent of his. He'd call on the phone and I'd never know who the hell was calling, because his accent was so damned weird. He sounded more Mexican or Columbian than Austrian, wouldn't you agree? I could never place it and I have a damn good ear for dialect. But then he'd take the ever-present sandwich out of his mouth and bellow "This is _____ !!! ____ !!!!!" and laugh that huge laugh of his ... and you'd have to settle in for the next half hour of talk about his family, or your family, or gear, or lifting, or some half-baked bullshit from some book on alternative physics he'd picked up at the library ... and you'd have to kick off your shoes and listen up, knowing again that there was a damned good reason you'd made friends with him.
He was always on Androgel, remember that? A dude that size? On Androgel? WTF??? And that crazy disclaimer of his that he appended to all his posts, about how "This is for entertainment purposes" or something like that. I always got so annoyed seeing that lame faux-dismissive disclaimer of his. Man, I'm gonna miss seeing that now.
So no, Mr. N. was not the best of all possible human beings. But I'll tell you what: He was a good ... G-O-O-D ... man. A hell of a bodybuilder, a great friend, a wise counselor, a loving father and husband, and a good ... G-O-O-D ... man.
I laughed and I worried and I argued with him.
And now I mourn for him.
Be well, brothers.
Bjaarki
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Mrpumped
I'd like to pay my respects to his friends and family for their loss. May God be with all of you. I know nothing about Mr.Nobody except that he welcomed me here to the board last week when I joined. That story from you anibolism about him squating 405 for 50 reps was great and I hope I can read more about this man that was loved by many. It seems like he left behind a great name which means everything. That's why I felt it was important to make that saying my signiture. God bless all of you friends and family members of his.
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Bgriff:
Nice post man. I was so sad to hear the news. I havent been around for a while but he helped me out alot when I was a newbie
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e-double:
Bjaarki, your post gave me more insight into who he was, and reminded me of the good experiences we shared on the AF board.
Thank you.
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wags8:
I didn't know him. In reading these words in these threads, I have found that bigger than your statures, bigger than your biceps, bigger than your hard earned muscles, is the size of your hearts. The words you all have written have touched me deeply. The man was blessed to have friends like all of you.
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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:33 PM
SSpiro:
Originally Posted by MIDLIFECRISIS: "Im sorry for the loss of what was obviously a great friend, husband and father. Welcome him home Holy Father."
SSpiro: "Well Said. My prayers with him and his family."
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Hidngod:
My deepest condolences go out to his family and I pray for their strength.
And my condolences and prayers to all his friends & efriends.
I regret that I haven't been here long enough to get to know him. From all the responses it is apparent that I missed a great opportunity.
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T-Cake:
Bjaarki, that was awesome. Thank you for sharing all that with us. I'm truly moved
I am scrutinized by some for always trying to believe in the innate goodness of others. Most people would call me a naivete... but now I can see that those types of people I do hope exist in this world really do -- and not only in Max, but also here on the boards as there's nothing but constant outpour of support and positive energy. Just astonishing -- I feel inspired and rest assured that life really is something much bigger and we are all just one tiny spec in one grand scheme.
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cg:
Thank you for that story anabo. I would relish any more stories you have of my big buddy.
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cg:
HidnGod. In the next month or so I am going to try and compilate a Best of MrN thread. We are all missing a great man. Tcake, I don't know what I would do without Ulter. I needed to talk to him yesterday. He helped me more than he knew. It hurts, but not as bad as yesterday. I still cry, but not as hard.
I really need to get out of this funk. Max wouldn't want this at all.
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cg:
MrN speaking to Joe about life:
Yoda:Life is relative. What you construct as your life, is a product of what you perceive from the outside within your cone of influence. You see the world through relativity. Your observation, as real as it may be to you, is different from mine but equally true. If you think there is a disturbance, then there is a disturbance for you. So change your perspective. Clean your "filter". Move outside, move away from your standpoint and open your brain to the possibility of a close approximation of absolute objectivity by broadening your sphere of interestThe force is not disturbed nor perturbed. You recognize an ebb, an accumulation of less probable events magnified through your filter (brain) by negative emotions, doubts and yes, the evil side effects of too much estrogen and progestin.Or, you are getting old and hate it. Take your pick!
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cg:
I was going through some things in my life and had to start making decisions looking toward my future. MrN emailed me and said he posted this for me:
So you have this dead end job, you are bored, you check the board hourly, you hope to be entertained by others, you are going through the motions of existence without purpose and blame others for your failures and faults. Realize one thing! Something is missing in your life, something big!How come you strife for progression in your training, but when it comes to your professional life you are content to coast. How come you are gritting your teeth when you see your boss, you are tortured by his very existence. How come you feel like a child, unfinished, stunted in growth, waiting, waiting for something. Well, what are you waiting for? Are you waiting for a reward in the afterlife, a reward for being good and obedient, a reward for being a lap dog of the system, a system that exists only in your head?Realize one thing, you and only you are interested in your life and your achievements, nobody else cares, no reward for being good or bad, no heaven, no hell, just life here on earth in the outskirts of nothing. Make the most of it!You there, get off your ass and treat your professional life like your training! Wake up, progress, plan, grow, take a stand, take a risk. Seek the truth, center yourself, find peace in your quest and realize that no one will pat you on the back for a life lived well when you die.I have taken a huge risk in my life and time will tell if I succeed, but just taking that risk has invigorated my spirit more than anything else in my life. I took a huge risk financially and in doing so set things in motion that will make or break me. But guess what, even if I fail I am richer, richer for experience, richer for adventure, richer for satisfaction, because I will not die wondering what if.....So shoot me for not believing in the conventional all beneficial god, shoot me for being a heretic, for seeking the absolute truth and purpose of consciousness.....All I know is that in this life, the only one I have and know of, it is my duty to set things right for me, take care of my children (since they truly represent my after life) and live to my fullest potential.And I will never yield in my quest to know the truth of everything, no fairy tales, no fables, no mumbo jumbo...... the cold truth and nothing elseWhat Are You Waiting For?
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cg:
When I found out I was going to a Father:
That is truly wonderful news.My first child was born the natural way. No drugs, nothing just legs up in the old hospital bed and push. Me second one was with epidural. Ahem, let Michelle have the epidural......just a little note on the side.When my girl was born, 17 years ago, the world was very different. As it always seem, the past is more innocent the presence. She was born after many hours of hard labor. I held my wife's hand and helped her push (yeah right). I was there when the monster popped its head out. In my inexperience I yelled out: Oh my god, she's got no face....The doc chuckled and turn her head around as he pulled her out all the way....This was by far the most emotional moment in my life, paling everything else in comparison.Cg, live life with intent, don't stagnate, grow and don't ever care about how you are being perceived, as your world is confined in your head and does not match other people's perception of your reality.Congratulations, you'll make a great father
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MR. BMJ:
"In my inexperience I yelled out: Oh my god, she's got no face...."
Oh god, I remember that. I was, and still am, laughing so hard at that sentence. Here the man is giving you a lesson in life, then he pops in the perfect joke so suttle and cool, but out of nowhere...lol. That was so funny.
BMJ
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:37 PM
Mickey:
I remember reading that post CG when I was at my last job, bored and checking AF hourly just like Mr.N said. That paragraph helped put me where I am today. I quit my job and took the risk that he was talking about, putting in the effort to my professional life that I had never done before. I had always worked hard at looking good, being a better player at whatever sport I played, and a better friend but never worked harder at my professional life. I went back and thought of Mr.N taking the risk that he did at work, being his own boss and it worked out great for him and his family and he seemed happier then ever.
We really are going to miss this guy.
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MR. BMJ:
Here are some cool thread to read showing our friends intellectual brilliance, knowledge, and sense of humor:
http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthr...highlight=pink
"romance"
http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthr...highlight=pink
Bjaarki: "Opinions are like asshole..."
http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=bitch
One of many chinese food thread
http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthr...hlight=chinese
BMJ
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Sarge:
(Sarge quoting my response directly above because the links didn't work)
"Sarge, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation."
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Medical:
I just went for an 80 mile ride in his honor. I lost dear friend from the motorcycling community today also.....he had a heart attack while fighting a fire.
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Medical:
Quoting Sarge above: "Ditto"
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MR. BMJ:
Oh yeah, sorry about that. The archives are still on lockdown until the threads are distributed to their proper forums...doh!
BMJ
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:47 PM
BigMoDean:
I am Catholic and we pray for peoples souls when they pass away,that is what I will do for him,and for the Lord to give his family strength in there time of need........
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Old Ranger:
Dear Iron God, I Miss My Daddy
My daddy is an Iron Brother,
And to the Iron Throne he's been true.
He didn't come home from the gym last night,
Mommy says he's in Iron Heaven with you.
I'm worried about my daddy Iron God,
He's never been away from training before,
Mommy cried when she told me,
That we wouldn't see daddy no more.
I don't know what it was,
That mommy was trying to explain.
She said the Iron Brother's weren't bad men,
And their lives are not lost in vain.
Now I don't know what that means Iron God
All I know is we miss daddy a lot.
Because tomorrow is my birthday,
And I sure hope he hasn't forgot.
I've followed in my daddy's footsteps,
And Bleed Iron everday.
I hope I make him proud Iron God,
Everynight, for this I pray.
I miss those rough and callused hands,
That held me gentle so.
Are you sure you didn't make a mistake,
Did my daddy have to go?
Iron God if my daddy is up there in heaven,
Please tell him as soon as his lifts are free.
To hurry back home as fast as he can,
Because we miss him, mommy and me.
Thank you Iron God, Amen
Ranger
"THE WAY WE LIVE OUR LIFE"
The Iron Brother was getting old,
And his hair was falling fast.
He sat around the Iron Throne,
Telling stories of his past.
Of the Iron War he fought,
And the lifting deeds he had done.
In his exploits with his Iron Brothers,
They were Hero's…Every one.
And though sometimes unto his Brothers,
His tales became a joke.
All the Iron Brothers did listen,
For they knew whereof he spoke.
We shall hear our Brother no longer,
Our Iron Brother has passed away.
And the Iron World is somewhat poorer,
For an Iron Brother died today.
He won't be mourned by many,
One child and a wife.
Though he lived for the extra ordinary,
He led an uneventful life.
Held a job and raised a family,
And he lifted his own way.
The world won't note his passing,
For an Iron Brother died today.
When Politicians leave this earth,
Their bodies lie in state.
And the common ones note their passing,
While proclaiming, they were great.
They tell of their life stories,
As far back as when they were young.
But the passing of an Iron Brother,
Goes unnoticed and unsung.
His greatest contribution,
To those hard and callused hands.
Was when a Brother was scammed,
He backed his fellow man.
Yes, this is our Iron Brother,
Who lived his life with strife.
He served the Iron Throne,
And sacrificed his life.
It's so easy to forget them,
For "Back in the Day" was long ago.
But, our Iron Brother remained in the Game,
Though he was tired and had to go.
He was just an Iron Brother,
And our ranks are growing thin.
He is a symbol to remind us,
That we need his likes again.
If we cannot do him, honor,
Though he's not here to reap the praise.
Let's pay homage to the Iron Throne,
And the passing of his days.
Perhaps a simple grunt of pain,
That would somehow seem to say.
Our Brotherhood is in mourning,
For an Iron Brother passed away.
RANGER
I honestly didn't know what else to say, or how to express it. I am truly saddened by this--He was a great man, a great friend, and a wonderful family man.
The native americans believed a man's greatness is judged by how he is remembered in death--Max will always be a GREAT MAN!!
Ranger
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deltroit:
Oh my god!!!! I can't believe this happened. I just logged on and this is the first post i opened. I am so so sorry:( The board has suffered a huge loss. Its funny, I never realized how sarcastic his name was until this happened. The one thing this man was not was a Nobody......:(
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cg:
Ranger, thank you for that. It brought tears to my eyes. Max would have loved those. He always liked your poems.
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Miles Monroe:
I am so bummed. I never met him but we had alot of deep online discussions. My favorite was a thread he started on "Flirting" that became a "Hall-of-famer". Many of us opened up and shared some deep feelings.
By the way this is the AF member formerly known as (Got)wood(?).
I am just stunned. Although I have been a bit of a stranger for a year or so, I always love my visits to the AF board, and Mr.N was a huge (pardon the pun my departed friend) part of that. The guy was funny and deep and strong and tender at times - a rare combination. In honor of Mr.N who might have wanted us to reflect as well as enjoy I have to say it is the people here that make the visit worthwhile.
I can't mention everyone but Ulter and how many times he has generously gone out of his way to do something nice to rescue many of us here in emergencies, Bjaarki and his muscled-up cerebral posts (do you still have that drawing of you that I sent you?), Monster with his balls-out principled posts - passion for his beliefs, Luckydog and his journey from powercleaning football frat boy to real-world working guy, Frackel going from the craziest posts ever to his political debates, Irongod and his crazy lifts, Smoove-Cheffy Smoove (the James Bond of the board) and the many others who posted workouts and advice and stories about everything from military life to MMA to sex : Caligula, Curious George, Pharmanimal, Nubian Beauty, BMJ,PharmQueen....and others I have not seen in a long time such as Deao (mister lucky one nut), MisterX, Ironmaster and others. I mean there are way to many to even list - who can match the advice of Macro or the near icon status of E2?
I apologize for those I did not list. So many who have shared their lives, the births of their children, their work struggles, funny stories. As well as listening to all of my stories.
Its like a huge chapter closed to read that Mr.N is gone from the board now. Damn. I am so glad you others are still here. I really will miss his many posts. Even ones I really did not NEED to read, such as the time he made a post that told us that he was back to working out really hard and had put on so much size that once again he could no longer wipe his ass.......
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Tapout:
I have known Max for close to 10 years or longer--we trained together many times--he was a monster of a man physically with a larger heart.He was one of only a handful of people I trusted and one of the smartest people I knew. He was strong yet considerate
one of the funniest stories I have about him was we were training legs together and a guy was next to us using a leg machine. after each set the man would add 1 plate to each side after about 6 or 7 sets the man said to us no matter how much weight he adds it wont get heavier--he was putting the weights on the bars that hold weight after a set not the bars that you load for the set--I was about to tell him and Max said dont there was no need lets just leave this one alone and we both walked off trying our best not to laugh.
He was a special person
Ulter,sorry in my email that I asked if you knew but I had not been able to get on the board and I wanted to make sure you knew
the viewing is fri from 6-8pm and funeral is sat at 2pm both in Lakeland
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MR. BMJ:
Tapout, that is one funny story. I bet you guys were just rolling...lol. I can't believe the guy didn't notice...hehehe. Sorry for the loss of your friend. Were all glad you made it to the board.
Wood!!!....Glad you came by my friend. We have been waiting for you to show up. Max mentioned a lot of good things about you. We are very glad that you are here with the family my man!
Thanks for the kind words.
BMJ
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Decaman:
I just heard about this - i dont know what to say. My deepest - deepest condolences to his family and his friends - he was such a big part of AF i dont know what else to say .........
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Lurch:
I can see this man was loved and respected by many and I feel for your loss and that of his family. All I can do is pray for his soul, his family and friends and the lives of all those affected. RIP.
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Miles Monroe:
I edited my post so that everyone could see the laugh about his comment on wiping his ass, since otherwise it might seem that I was serious about NOT needing to read any of his posts. If any of his posts were offensive I would not have mentioned them - he had a way of making the mundane memorable ....even wiping ones ass.
Tapout that is really an incredibly funny story, a true gym classic
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Bjaarki:
This is a death in the family, isn't it?
And like all deaths in the family, it brings the survivors together. I see that happening, with GotWood, me, other guys who've known one another for ages but just have drifted apart the last few years ... we've all heard this dread news, and we're coming back "home," not to a place but to one another, like the characters in The Big Chill. I half-expect to hear Heard it Through the Grapevine being piped over the living room speakers here.
Just something else, maybe the last thing, Max did for us. Thank you for that, too, Big Bro.
There has not been a dry eye in the house here all week, and there won't be again, not for a very long time. He meant so much to us ... how much more must he have meant to his family. To his wife, his son, his daughter. I hope the family can see how deeply Max was loved, how greatly he was respected, and how sorely he will be missed.
Max spoke to me many times of his marriage, of his wife, and as I said above, he spoke of her with a deep, reverent form of marital devotion that I can only marvel at. I so envied him that. I so envied them both that.
Believe it.
So when the family has worked their way through the mourning and have come to a place where they want to smile and feel good again in their memories of their husband, their father - and yes, that time will come - I hope they'll stop in here and read all these words, all these thoughts, all these testaments and awkward little eulogies we have, in our own shock and grief, thought to pen and post here. We've tried our best in our hundreds, but we are each of us halt and nearly mute in our sorrow. Only the immortal Ecclesiastes can read what's in our hearts, and even that, as through a glass, darkly:
To everything there is a season,
a time for every purpose under heaven.
A time to be born and a time to die;
a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
a time to kill and a time to heal ...
a time to weep and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn and a time to dance ...
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing;
a time to lose and a time to seek;
a time to rend and a time to sew;
a time to keep silent and a time to speak;
a time to love and a time to hate;
a time for war and a time for peace.
- Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
Bjaarki
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GymRatSD
Great to see some of the great members in the history of AF come back here to share stories and offer condolences. It's been several days, and I'm still in shock. I see a recent post of his, and I get chills. It's surreal.
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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:52 PM
Ulter:
A final message to Max from the board. An AF eulogy.
Below are the words spoken at Max's funeral on behalf of myself and all those who could not attend from this board. Thanks Bjaarki, CG and all of our contributors.
Hello. I am Max's friend Larry. But in keeping with spirit of what I want say here today I will introduce myself as Ulter.
I am one of hundreds of people who first met Max as a line of 10 point type on a page. Over the internet, through his writing, as people used to meet very often centuries ago, before we could drive or fly someplace in an instant. At first Max was guarded about himself and his family – they always came first, last and always in Max’s life – but over time I built a friendship with him, as did scores of other good men and women on our fitness discussion board.
And once we were comfortable with one another, I began to learn just what a unique, powerful, and in his way distinguished man Max was. Whatever you gave him, he always returned it in full measure. He was both interesting and interested, all at the same time, a rare quality today.
I would tell him about the challenges in my life – scores of other guys and gals would, Max’s inbox was always full – and he would write back with two messages. The first consisted of questions. Was I okay? Was there anything he could do to help? And if I answered him with something I needed, I was confident that I would have it, yesterday. And the second kind of message from him was word from his own life. He was generous in that way, too. He’d write about Dylan getting straight A's and his desire to bring him into the world of fitness with visits to the gym on Sundays;
He’d write about Lily posing for a famous artist or her academic achievements. And Cordy? Max always spoke of Cordy with a deep reverence, his side of a marital bond that I could only marvel at. We all did. His commitment to his wife and children poured out for all who cared to read it.
Max was a fine athlete and through his love of lifting and bodybuilding he became a giant of a man, but you know what? He always showed the most enthusiasm as he communicated his inner feelings as a father, husband and provider. Such pride. Such commitment. Such love. I feel such gratitude to him for showing us those things, every day, in so many ways.
I thought I would share with you his 2006 New Years Resolution
It's hard to make New Years resolutions when you were blessed with a great old year like I was. Having said that, I want to become more balanced and admit to my obsessive behavior. I have a tendency to go overboard with whatever I touch, that can be a good thing, but it also can be a bad thing, it can be grinding to my loved ones. So my resolution is for balance, and to be a better father to my son, to continue with hard work and make my company grow even more, to be a better husband and more attentive to the ones that depend on me.
Max’s life was lived according to standards of the highest order. He drew the respect and admiration of all who came to know him. His generosity and heart dwarfed his size, and as time went on and he became the truest and most stalwart of friends, someone who we, in our world, call by the term “brother.”
It is now time to say goodbye, Max. Goodbye, my brother. I’ll meet you on the other side and we will continue our friendship then.
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 09:58 PM
NubianBeauty:
Wow! Thanks Ulter!!!!! :kiss:
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Mickey:
That was great, Ulter.
I don't know if anyone noticed but Lilly posted pictures of Max in the gallery for anyone who wants to put a face with the name and words that most knew him by over the years.
http://www.afboard.com/gallery/showp...t&limit=recent
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Kapalaran:
Quote: Originally Posted by Ulter: "It is now time to say goodbye, Max. Goodbye, my brother. I’ll meet you on the other side and we will continue our friendship then."
Kapalaran: "Larry...I got chills and tears reading that. You didn't inflate his life or who he was one single bit. We know that he REALLY was the way you described him there.
Thank you for writing that. :thankyou: "
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cg:
I loved it.
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Ulter:
Bjaarki deserves credit for the poetry of it and the structure. He took our thoughts and did what Bjaarki does.
Thank you. I was thanked by many people there for sharing this with them. We made a very good impression on those that knew Max "off the board".
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Sassy69:
I'm crying AGAIN. Beautiful words, from the heart.
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cg:
Sassy, me too. I am about cried out.
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Tapout:
I went to the viewing last night and it went real well(as far as well can go for something like that) there were alot of people there from the gym and elsewhere--I knew Max touched alot of people but there was more there than I expected--still hard to believe
also was strange is that alot of people from this board was there but we didnt know each other or who each other was-- but we were all there to pay our respects to Max--all of us from different walks of life some knowing him as family,some from the gym and some from here
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:01 PM
cg:
Bjaarki, eloquent words as usual.
Tapout, I was talking to Ulter about how this board has allowed people to touch lives that we normally wouldn't have been able to. I have made friends on AF that I will be friends with for life. Ulter, luckydog, Bjaarki, Max, Monster and all the moderators as well as others I haven't mentioned, I consider my friends.
How else would I have met these people? How would I have ever met Max if I didn't work out in the same gym? How would I have been able to speak with him everyday or leave a post to tell him something funny? LuckyDog is another person that I have in life that I owe to this board. We were talking about it last night and again, he said that he owes most of the important things in his life to AF.
Ulter brought this group of people together. Without this board I would have never met Max and wouldn't have had him in my life.
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Tapout:
ulter
that was great--for a great person
like I said before he never caused any drama in the gym,helped anyone and never checked out the girls in tights---he was focused in his weight training and an inspiration--after seeing him it all hit that it really happened
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Tapout:
cg
I couldnt agree more
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Sassy69:
Quote: Originally Posted by Mickey:
"That was great, Ulter. I don't know if anyone noticed but Lilly posted pictures of Max in the gallery for anyone who wants to put a face with the name and words that most knew him by over the years.
http://www.afboard.com/gallery/showp...t&limit=recent"
Sassy69:
"Thank you for the link -- very nice to put a face to the collection of knowledge, curiosity, love and giving that I've gathered about him."
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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:01 PM
Scarlett:
Written by my mother, spoken at the service yesterday:
To everyone in this room today –
We want to thank all of you from the depths of our souls for loving and respecting this most extraordinary man.
He came to this country on a wing and a prayer... a suitcase, very bad English and no work papers. That was it. Max at the age of nineteen gave up his homeland for the love of a woman and the dream of building a wonderful life in America. There was no one to catch him if he fell so even at that tender age he had the guts and the presence of mind to know that failure was not an option. And so the work began. With the blessings of wisdom and maturity beyond his years, a wife and in-laws who believed in him, his resolve was strengthened.
When he then became a father of two perfect children, the course was set. All fears and uncertainties of the past were quelled. The focus of his life came to him with perfect clarity. He was a happy man. He lived his life with unshakable dignity and great humility.
For the women who loved Max –
He was handsome, strong, charming, and had a great sense of humor. But in reality, he was a “man's man.” Men have always looked up to him for his tireless work ethics, immense intelligence, loyalty to his friends and colleagues, and above all, an unwavering strength of character. There is no doubt that you will never meet another man exactly like Max Frei. He was larger than life in every way.
Now that it is time for him to rest, let him comfort you and let his spirit forever more give you – his friends, his partners, his allies in this life – a chance to also be extraordinary men.
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:02 PM
Scarlett:
Written by myself.. spoken at the service yesterday:
I hope you knew the pride we felt
When someone said your name,
For every person you have touched
Will never be quite the same.
I always loved in secret how you admired my ability to write and asked me about the correct usage of commas, or how to spell words like “icicle”. I know I didn't utilize my vocabulary very well all the time, but I swear I don't always curse like a sailor. Never has there been a bigger daddy's girl, and I'll admit as I went off to college and sucked away your hard-earned money, I was a tiny bit jealous of cute little Lucy when she stole your affection with her cute puppy paws and cute puppy nose and cute little Yorkie cuteness.
So this is where everything I've learned about anything fails me miserably, and the concept of hope is the pinprick of a balloon in the sky, as the little girl watches it float away. The deepest of holes is opening up into a chasm, the walls of which are jagged with things I am far too young to grasp, so I will fall for many years while the rest of my world is in pieces. I see my life as stunted and empty and pale.. the earth will spin without me.
But I know I can't swirl down the drain forever. Your pride in me and faith in my strength are a top priority of upholding, and for all my short years I could never bear disappointing you and Mom. Though it's a tough thing to do with the unconditional love and acceptance of such a tightly cohesive family. I'm the only young person I've ever known that sincerely wants to be a perfect mesh of her parents... you two did it right.
I promise I wont do steroids or waste my time on cardio, and I swear I'll eat my carbs. I'll control my temper and negative impulses, and I'll try not to become a tattooed freak... though my next bit of ink will be for you. Oh, I'll make sure Maxine goes to a good home, with someone who knows all about her sensitive throttle and frightening horsepower.
I can barely see past my nose into the future, but I know Mom and Dillon and I will close ranks. We're capable – you made us that way.
I love you Daddy.
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:08 PM
PO1NTBL4NK:
Reading this made me feel weird. It touched me. I am sorry to hear about your father.
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Ulter:
Those were beautiful Lily. Thanks for posting them.
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Caligula:
Yep... that got me. :(
Thank you all for posting and writing and contributing this. It was beautiful from everyone. It was perfect and summed everything up the way it should.
Thank you Ulter, Bjaarki, Lily and all who have contibuted so much to those of us who wish we could be there for all of you.
We are there though...always.
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cg:
That was beautful from both you and your mother. I echo what Caligula said, we are always here if you ever need anything. Your father was a dear friend of mine. If you ever need anything, all you need to do is ask.
Thank you for posting that.
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T-Cake:
It's just as poetic reading it the 2nd time. Manifest destiny -- if the strength isn't there yet but you believe whole-heartedly it will be in the future... the time will come where your life will again be filled with peace and a sense of normalcy.
Though time doesn't heal all, it does help. Much love to you and your family, Lily. You've got more people to support you and love you than you ever knew.
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Fit Mum:
I am so touched by all that was said, and now I shead many tears for a person I have never meet. You have all touched on many things. I wish I had gotten to know him as much as you all.:(
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cg:
Mum, you would have loved Max. He was so damn funny. He had those one-liners that had you laughing and then would come back with something that would make you think in a different way then you were used to.
I will see if I can dig up some stuff from the archives that show some of that. It seems so surreal, like it didn't happen and I am going to sign on and see him still here. Man I wish that were true. I usually go to the old board and check the mod posts because we used to gossip like little school girls. What is weird is the day before I found out about the accident, I was looking at his posts at 4am...I was even talking about him when I got the phone call. I don't know why I would be doing that or he would have been on my mind so strong.
Mum, you would have loved him like we all did and do.
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Stranac:
My condolences to his family & frieands. May he rest in peace
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:11 PM
Scarlett:
http://www.legacy.com/theledger/Obit...sonId=86987373
..there's a guest book.
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Ulter:
Thank you Lily.
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goaler:
Quote: Originally Posted by Fit Mum:
"I am so touched by all that was said, and now I shead many tears for a person I have never meet. You have all touched on many things. I wish I had gotten to know him as much as you all. :( "
goaler:
I'll second that. Beautifully said everyone.
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anibolism:
Lily,
Your post was incredible, you are truly your fathers daughter. I knew Max , not you but just reading your post and the way you write and think shows you are truly a product of MAX. I often felt he should have been a teacher. I actually felt shame for not knowing your family at the funeral. I spoke my condolences and met you all for the first time. Max was my freind from the gym, who I ate lunch with or spoke on the board with occasionaly. You only have to be around him for a short time to realize what a great person he is. I truly feel honored and blessed for having known your father, I wept at his passing and realize that the measure of a man is the legacy he leaves behind. I saw a strong family and lots of great freinds. Many, many people looked up to him (literally the dude was tall) and the way he lived his life with intensity, honor, and love for his family will live on in us all. I was only a freind and his passing hurt me deeply, I can only imagine the hurt your family feels right now. I will pray for you and I hope you go on to live your life with the same passion your Dad did.
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Scarlett:
I can only say thank you to everyone.. from the very base vibration of my human energy. I was constantly absorbing anything and everything I possibly could from him, and I had so much yet to learn..
He respected you all, as do I. I get the feeling this will be a sanctuary of sorts.. a place where I can still learn from dad and from the people on his level.
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:14 PM
AirPower:
Quote: Originally Posted by lilyfrei: "I can only say thank you to everyone.. from the very base vibration of my human energy. I was constantly absorbing anything and everything I possibly could from him, and I had so much yet to learn.... He respected you all, as do I. I get the feeling this will be a sanctuary of sorts.. a place where I can still learn from dad and from the people on his level."
AirPower: "My prayers go out to you and your family."
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Tapout:
anibolism
VERY WELL SAID---
Lily you could see how respected your father was when you saw so many of us guys from the gym this weekend there paying our respects
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Cyp:
I can't belive It, my thoughts go out to family and friends.
Mr Nobody was valued contributer.
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:17 PM
robbb:
Really in disbelief over this. An enormous loss. I will keep his family and friends in my prayers. God bless.
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bad brains:
I'm sorry to hear this. My prayers go out to his family. His presence will be greatly missed on this board. I did not know him as well as some others on this board but I will miss his comments. Motorcycles keep taking friends and acquaintances. I still think about and miss Unity66 quit often. In times like these it's good to be a member of this board or as I like to think of it a "support group". Again my heart and prayers goes out to his family.
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Miles Monroe:
Are we supposed to or can we sign the Guestbook
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Ulter:
Yes Miles, Lily asked us to
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the truth:
haven't been on the board for a few weeks--this is shocking and saddening.
RIP Mr N, and my condolences to his family
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Scarlett:
i've posted some more pictures...
this one is pretty amazing:
http://www.afboard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=113
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MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:18 PM
drrman:
that is horrible to hear Mike,
I had a horrible motorcycle wreck a few years back that I was lucky to survive......crippled me for almost two years. My thoughts go out to his family and friends
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MR. BMJ:
Been thinking of him a lot today!!!
If you guys only knew some of the behind the scene stunts he would pull and joke about, you would be changing your underpants from pissing in them.
Between him and Monster and CG, it was like comedy central. Monster is one of the funniest guys ever....I wish Max was here today to see the stuff Monster is pulling:lol:
CG and i were busting up all day today....GOOD TIMES!!!:D
BMJ
MR. BMJ
02-11-2008, 10:31 PM
Actual 02/12/08 note: I got pretty much everything, except for Anibolism's post on the end of the 2nd page:(
Anibolism, i'm really sorry for not being able to recover your eulogy to max. If you have a copy saved somewhere, please send it to me and i'll add it in up above.
I also missed a few smilies I think. Besides for these 2 things, everything is here:)
Oh, I think there was a few entries after the last one posted above here. These were not saved so anybody that added in anything lately within the last few weeks...please feel free to add them back in.
Thanks everybody:kiss:
BMJ
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:20 PM
I found the pictures of Max that we had on the last board's Photo Gallery section, of which Scarlett posted up.
If Scarlett or Ulter et al want any of these down, then let me know.
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:24 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/0Scanned.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:25 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/0_184.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:25 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/0012.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:25 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/Apr10_03.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:26 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/Apr10_05.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:26 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/Apr10_061.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:27 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/c_0051.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:27 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/Cordy_Max.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:27 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/DADDY.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:28 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/Apr10_041.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:28 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/Feb-HenryAscencio069.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:28 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/GRADUATION_004.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:29 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/lucy_005.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:29 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/maxine005.jpg
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:30 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/crazyaas/0Article.jpg
sassy69
03-12-2008, 09:30 PM
Thx BMJ! Fond memories & I didn't even know him....
MR. BMJ
03-12-2008, 09:53 PM
I seen them in google cache and figured I better grab them while they are still there. Funny thing is...of the few pictures remaining on that photo gallery cache, his were there...:)
BMJ
sassy69
03-12-2008, 09:59 PM
I seen them in google cache and figured I better grab them while they are still there. Funny thing is...of the few pictures remaining on that photo gallery cache, his were there...:)
BMJ
Some things are just "right".
Scarlett
03-13-2008, 04:06 AM
Thanks BMJ, I have those and some more uploaded in my photo gallery.. I thought about making a note somewhere in the pics forum.
ANIBOLISM
03-23-2008, 03:56 PM
I still go into the gym and expect to see Max. His presence is just still there I can't explain it.
I really miss the crazy conversations we had on the body and how it runs like a machine while I was bitching to him about how hard my Paramedic program was. And basically getting told to quit being lazy and man-up when I tried to make excuses about not getting into the gym on a regular basis.
I never really realized how much I looked up to Max until he was gone. Its almost like a super hero worship or something. But I still remember him every time I step foot in the gym or sign onto this board. I really respected the man he was, his convictions that he lived by everyday, the love he had for his family, and his training dedication was infectous and unreal.
I like knowing Scarlett now. I love reading her posts or seeing her in the gym because she has so much of her dad in her. Its like Max is still around. I wish her and her family all the luck in the world and I pray for them everyday.
PolfaJelfa
04-12-2008, 01:00 AM
Will put him in the prayers.
zbojcerz
04-12-2008, 02:47 AM
i read his posts in the archive - he seemed to be good man. hope he's in better place now.
shifty_git
05-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Hey thats really said to see.
A loss to 3 worlds... The world of bodybuilding, the world of bikers, and the world of human life.
I fall into all 3, so total respect to the guy.
Hope ya on a busa riding the italian hills of heaven. God Bless.
Curious George
07-02-2008, 12:21 AM
Well shit! I decided to read these again and am crying. I miss him so much. I think of the void that MAX left here and I can't even come close to imagining the void in all who knew him and his family.
I love and miss you Statler,
Waldorf
MartyMcFly
09-27-2008, 04:09 AM
So sad.
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