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KOArtist
04-01-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm just wondering, since I know Red Blast has NO ingredients that are supposed to increase "pump"...if I'm on var and really prone to those bad back pumps, will this make it even worse?

On a similar note...what all can help out with those pumps? I've heard ZMA, potassium, Lindbergs milk thistle, lots of water, etc, etc.

Do these all truly work? What would you suggest Macro and Ulter?

Thanks

bigdamray
04-02-2008, 11:52 AM
I'm just wondering, since I know Red Blast has NO ingredients that are supposed to increase "pump"...if I'm on var and really prone to those bad back pumps, will this make it even worse?

On a similar note...what all can help out with those pumps? I've heard ZMA, potassium, Lindbergs milk thistle, lots of water, etc, etc.

Do these all truly work? What would you suggest Macro and Ulter?

Thanks

I'm on var and dbol and red blast doesn't affect my back in that way. The pump is usually caused by rapid weight gain. Have you gained any weight lately? The only thing that helps that is time and water.

GTLifter
04-02-2008, 12:04 PM
The weird thing I noticed about Red Blast was that it seemed to help with "the pump" everywhere except my lower back and almost seemed to lessen the lower back pump from stuff like deadlifts.

macrophage69 alpha
04-02-2008, 12:11 PM
I'm on var and dbol and red blast doesn't affect my back in that way. The pump is usually caused by rapid weight gain. Have you gained any weight lately? The only thing that helps that is time and water.

he has not tried it yet, he is just asking if it will exacerbate an issue that he already has problems with... and the answer is no.

macrophage69 alpha
04-02-2008, 12:13 PM
I'm just wondering, since I know Red Blast has NO ingredients that are supposed to increase "pump"...if I'm on var and really prone to those bad back pumps, will this make it even worse?

On a similar note...what all can help out with those pumps? I've heard ZMA, potassium, Lindbergs milk thistle, lots of water, etc, etc.

Do these all truly work? What would you suggest Macro and Ulter?

Thanks

generally no.

things that will help reduce the occurance of AAS induced back contractility issues are increasing water, using an aromatase inhibitor, increasing potassium, reducing sodium, magnesium, potassium sparing diuretics like dandelion, and beta alanine or taurine (these two should not be taken at the same time).

tgriff
04-02-2008, 02:13 PM
generally no.

things that will help reduce the occurance of AAS induced back contractility issues are increasing water, using an aromatase inhibitor, increasing potassium, reducing sodium, magnesium, potassium sparing diuretics like dandelion, and beta alanine or taurine (these two should not be taken at the same time).

Why can't you take BA and Taurine at the same time?

user8
04-02-2008, 06:46 PM
Why can't you take BA and Taurine at the same time?

In layman's terms, they compete for the same absorption "pathways" (probably a better way to put that)

I'll leave the scientific explanation to someone who knows better than I:grin:

macrophage69 alpha
04-02-2008, 06:52 PM
thats pretty much right on target.

KOArtist
04-09-2008, 12:15 AM
generally no.

things that will help reduce the occurance of AAS induced back contractility issues are increasing water, using an aromatase inhibitor, increasing potassium, reducing sodium, magnesium, potassium sparing diuretics like dandelion, and beta alanine or taurine (these two should not be taken at the same time).

Would you suggest any "quick fix cocktail" for pre-workout to help me avoid the dreaded lower back pumps? Basically wondering how much potassium, magnesium, and dandelion I should take, and how long before I workout should I take it for best results?

I've already noticed the beta-alanine does help a bit, but I still have definite issues.

Thanks

KOArtist
04-09-2008, 10:06 PM
or is it more of a daily regimen type thing instead of a "quick fix" preworkout cocktail?

Just wondering about necessary/minimum daily dosages and suggested "types" (I see various versions of the potassium and magnesium like gluconate, oxide, aspartate, etc.)

Also, is the AIFM still going to help if I'm only on non-aromatizing gear? I still have some around but was waiting to use it until PCT alongside my HCG.

Thanks :bowdown:

Ulter
04-09-2008, 11:32 PM
What are you using?

macrophage69 alpha
04-10-2008, 02:29 AM
or is it more of a daily regimen type thing instead of a "quick fix" preworkout cocktail?

Just wondering about necessary/minimum daily dosages and suggested "types" (I see various versions of the potassium and magnesium like gluconate, oxide, aspartate, etc.)

Also, is the AIFM still going to help if I'm only on non-aromatizing gear? I still have some around but was waiting to use it until PCT alongside my HCG.

Thanks :bowdown:

1000-1500mg supplemental potassium (spread out with meals)
800-1000mg magnesium (same)

including high potassium foods in diet is also reccomended

it can quick fix, but consistency is better

macrophage69 alpha
04-10-2008, 02:31 AM
Would you suggest any "quick fix cocktail" for pre-workout to help me avoid the dreaded lower back pumps? Basically wondering how much potassium, magnesium, and dandelion I should take, and how long before I workout should I take it for best results?

I've already noticed the beta-alanine does help a bit, but I still have definite issues.

Thanks

dandelion will help with water retention, but it may exacerbate cramping, especially if you are heavily sweating

deep stretching of hamstrings and hamstring-glute insertion will also help reduce tension (and thus pump and potential cramping)

KOArtist
04-11-2008, 12:08 AM
What are you using?

Var only at the moment...it's pretty damn ridiculous too because I'm only using 35-40mg per day. :ugotmail: But then again I've been doing a lot of oly lifts and plyos lately, which are pretty stressful on the lower back, so that's adding a little to my problems too.

Thanks for all the help....off to the vitamin store now!:werd:

macrophage69 alpha
04-13-2008, 02:49 PM
be sure to update.

the potassium and magnesium (as well as restricting sodium) should make a big difference. with your lifting regimin stretching is also going to be a big factor.