Doggcrap Training

[archive_Iron Island]

I was bored with my old routine and decided to give this a try. I had read about it for a few months and liked some of the ideas about the program. The results have been great! In one month I put an inch on my chest, 1/2inch on my calves, 1inch on my legs, 1/2 on my forearms and 1/8inch on my arms. I gained 8lbs. Strength has gone up every week. I look foward to going to the gym again and trying to beat my old numbers. You can read my training log to see how I improved and what I was doing.

I have been working with Chris Perticari for about 2months and he has helped me with my bulking diet. It has remained the same since I started the doggcrap training.

[archive_Loco]

What date on your training log begins your journey with doggcrapp? Or does it say that you changed your routine?

I have had an interest in trying it as well. I think it was David Henry, but don't quote me, that was in a recent muscle magazine and said that he used doggcrapp training for his back. He played ignorance as to where the name came from.

[archive_Iron Island]

On page 5, the date was 8/14. Dave henry uses it for all his bodyparts. The routine is a simple concept but very effective. I think you should give it try. It has made the gym alot more fun after doing high volume for so long. If you have any questions let me know.

[archiecunningham]

I tried using some of the ideas behind dogg crapp training, basically just the rest pause concept and so far in the three weeks I've been trying it, I feel like a whole new person. In three weeks my bench went from 185x16 to 205x13 and it seems like all my other lifts are going up too at a very quick rate! When I get a chance I'll start writing down my workouts and finally update it under my training log section.

[joepalooka]

Archie this is good to hear that you are training again keep it up and type in your log so I can read.

[archive_LuckyDog]

Any of you guys got any good links to places that explain DoggCrapp training?? I've love to research it further. Thanks

LD

"Only average athletes, those that are far from excellent prepare with average methods. A Champion is not average, but exceptional." ~Vladimir Zatsiorsky

[archive_Iron Island]

This site has some good info.

http://dc-training.blogspot.com/

[archive_Loco]

Great post Iron Island. A lot of good info for me to use. I am going to try out DC for the next couple of weeks and see what I think.

[archive_Loco]

Well I tried DC for the first time two days ago. The workout was much shorter than what I'm used to, and more painful as well. Since it was my first time I didn't know how much weight to start with so some of them were kinda low. And yet, my back and chest were pretty sore the next day. The extreme stretch is going to take some getting used to.

I'm really excited because the whole idea makes sense and I'm already impressed after one workout.

[archive_PROSPECT]

I feel that DC can't be a "be all end all", but it definitely has it's benefits. I love doing some of the training. I am usually lazy while training, so this style challenges me. Now that I can't "use" anymore, I hate everything though . . ..

pRoSPECT

[joepalooka]

DC is very challenging. The system has borrowed concepts as do many other systems of training. When I read about DC training I can see some concepts that were borrowed from the conjegate method and the rotation of exercises every 3 weeks or so. The reps are high with maximal weight that a person can handle with a high rep scheme. Which is a challenge on the body. Most of us get stuck with the same rep schemes and never venture away from them. The deep stretching is supposed to help stretch the facia of the muscle to allow room for more growth. I seen this first when cybergenix was around. How many of you guy's remember that system of supplements and exercises.

The number of exercises one can do will go down as you exhaust yourself. Over time volume can increas with in a high rep plan. I will use big bird legs " aka steve". The high rep squats followed by a few low rep squats then on to high rep hack squats followed by hamstring work and quad work is not out of the ordinary for him to do. He pushes his limits to make his legs grow and takes time off accordingly. Watching him make progress has been good. He squats more and deadlifts more then has ever did in the past following his own ideas.

Just like any system you have to find your own physical limits, and DC training is definitely a different way to train.

Pharm Animal trains DC and can give more light to the subject.

[archiecunningham]

I just like it because it allows me to push myself over my limits, and since I'm in an atmosphere where all I do is sleep study and eat all day long, I'm able to recover. If it was still the summer and I was still workin I don't think this would work as well

btw being in this atmosphere for another year, you guys can expect me to put on the sophomore 70 this time!

[archive_Iron Island]

Loco, it also took me some time to find the right weights. After a few workouts you will know what to do and can improve on them.

I'm used to high volume and this is alot harder then what I used to do. It really is alot of fun to try and beat your records and see the weights going up each week.

Joe, why not try some rest pauses on your assistance stuff? A few powerlifters have been doing this and like it alot.

[archive_Loco]

Iron, It's definitely different. Yesterday I was tired and unmotivated when I was at the gym so I didn't think the workout went too well. But today my bi's feel sore. The interesting thing with DC is that I do one set with a 6 second negative. It doesn't feel like I've done much work, but the next day I feel it. The soreness is not extreme like with volume training. In fact, many times recently when doing volume training I have done 9 sets for bi's with no soreness in the ensuing days. I even had to take it to 15 sets to get soreness.

Hope that makes sense. I seem to be rambling today.

[joepalooka]

II, I really haven't thought of doing that but I may give it a shot down the road. I have changed how I am training some what. With this change I am having a tough time setting my accessory work.

Once I have assistence stuff down again I can add some more active stretching and maybe some rest pauses. Not Monster style meaning pause by resting.



[This message was edited by joepalooka on 09-27-06 at 12:13 PM.]

[archive_Iron Island]

Loco, are you doing a 6 sec negitive on all your reps or just the last one? Just use a controled tempo on the negitives. On the last rep I do a slow negative.

Joe, sounds good. I think you will like it and it cuts alot of time in the gym.

[Monster]

I prefer "rest rest" to "rest pause."


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[archive_Loco]

Yes I use a 6 second negativ on all reps because that's what I believe Dogg wrote to do according to the link that you provided. But I like your advice, all that counting takes away my focus from the exercise. I'll try your method tomorrow.

[archive_Iron Island]

I saw that also but on his board he has advised against that. Only when doing calves it should be a 5 second negative.I don't count how long the negative takes, just nice and controled. You will be able to use alot more weight this way.

[archive_Iron Island]

Loco, any updates?

[archive_Loco]

I like the controlled negative and have been getting better at determining the weights I need to use. I need more work with the extreme stretching.

Honestly, for the past 3-4 days I have been sick so I have been focusing on that and trying to maintain a good diet. I realize that I need to eat a lot more protein than I usually do. Never realized how much I am lacking in the protein departement.

I will say the soreness from DC seems very different than that from conventional training.

[archive_Iron Island]

What stretches are you having a problem with? A few months ago, I upped my protein to atleast 350grams a day and have noticed a big difference. I agree with the soreness, I'm not sore for days and don't feel beat up like I used to.

[archive_Flash]

Is everyone using the 2on/1off training scheme? What about the split? I am doing chest/delts/tri's/back width/Back Thickness then on day 2 bi's/4arms/calves/hamstrings/glutes+quads.

This routine could be ideal for carb cycling and cutting...Im just saying

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[archive_Iron Island]

That's the split I do but I lift on Mon, Wed, Fri. This way every bodypart is worked every 4-5 days.