Pre-Contest Dieting Q....

[archive_FitnessChick]

I am currently 3 weeks out from my show as of yesterday-my q to you is can I use Sweet & Low or anyother spices in cooking or will that cause me problems in cutting water...


Also, if anyone can lend me a bit of insight as to sodium depletion and carbing up(for a women)aka, pre show prep, I would really appreciate it!

[DREXX]

Cut all spices, sweet & low and stimulants 2-3 days out for sure.

If it's not hard it's not worth doing...

[Badkins21]

I would definitely cut out all "spices," the last week leading up to the show because most of them are just "flavored salt."

My dilemna is this, though...after a show, when you start taking in a normal amount of sodium again, your viens pop out like a motherfucker...knowing this, and knowing many guys who eat some salty, greasy food about an hour before pre-judging, I'm tempted to sodium "deplete," the last week, but "load" right the morning of...I think there were some comments on the other "CONTEST PREP" thread...

As far as Sweet 'N Low, I wouldn't think it would have any effect...I've heard of pro's drinking a 12 pack of Diet Coke the day before a show...

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Gig 'em, B$...

"Why, they ask?? Because there's nothing I fear more than being ordinary...!"

[archive_FitnessChick]

Now let me ask you all another question-what were you eating 3 weeks out so I can gauge if I am doing this right...also, how close to contest ready did you look 3 weeks out....


This being my first actual BB show I have no clue as to where I should be---I know what others tell me, but I would still like to hear from fellow board members.

[AJ]

who do you have doing your posing and routines?? do you know anyone else in person that has done a show? its gotta be hard going in w/o a trainer that does your nutrition, i can't even imagine doing it w/o mine. i'd be lost!

do you have any currect pics for before the show? whats your weight? what do u plan on weighing in at and at what bf %?? please update because i'm really curious!!!!!!!!

thanks!

AJ /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[archive_FitnessChick]

Yes, I do have great people helping me to learn to pose properly & putting a routine together for me-One is a former #2 Mr. Olympia, and the other won the state show here a few years ago....and yes, they are taking into consideration that I am a female...

As far as nutrition & diet, I saw a guy in our gym who does nutrition-diet plans for pre contest about 3 weeks ago, & I was already at 11.8% & 141 lbls---he told me I look great & to keep doing what I was doing but cut out some of my carbs, add more fat(in the form of natural p.b., & he would see me in a few weeks....He has been sick the last week or so, & I am supposed to be meeting with him tomorrow night.....I don't know if I am doing this right but I am pretty cut now-I have abs, cuts in my legs, striations in my chest & shoulders, & you can clearly see my shoulder caps....you can also totally see my hip flexors....I know I am retaining water but I plan on using lasix w/ potassium and they told me to sauna prior to the show---I am 138 and about 9.7% b.f....this is 3 weeks out as of yesterday.


I have been told by the ex Mr O to start split sessions of cardio which I have been doing for the last week as opposed to the am only on an empty stomach sessions I was doing before. I am posting up my diet for the last few days so maybe you guys with show experience can critique it.


Friday
Meal 1---1 scoop whey(its a good quality whey protein) with a spoon of crazy richard natural peanut butter, & a 1/2 cup oats (measured uncooked) with a sweet & low

Meal 2---1 scoop whey with 1/2 cup oats with a sweet & low

Meal 3---2 Turkey patties with a tad of ketsup, 1/4 cup plain salad

Meal 4---Can tuna plain with 1/4 cup of chopped onion-lettuce-carrot combo, 3 spoons of PB

Meal 5---2 scoops whey with spoon PB

Meal 6---10 oz steamed chicken & broccoli


Saturday

Meal 1---2 scoops whey with spoon PB

Meal 2---4 egg whites(1 yolk), with 1/4 cup lean ground turkey meat, 1/2 cup oats with sweet & low

Meal 3---1 scoop of whey with spoon PB

Meal 4---2 grilled chicken breasts with 1 yam, 3 glasses unsweetened Iced Tea

Meal 5---3 egg whites with 1/4 cup lean ground turkey

Today(Sunday)

Meal 1---2 scoops whey with 1 spoon PB

Meal 2---Turkey patty with yam & 2 spoons PB

Meal 3---2 scoop whey

Meal 4---2 Grilled Chicken breasts with 1/4 cup broccoli, 2 unsweetend iced teas
& I will have 1 more meal before the day is through.


They will set up my last week & a half of dieting as far as carb depletion & sodium depletion are concerned....any opinion are appreciated as I haven't ever done BB, just fitness-physique based shows!


Thanks in advance!

[This message was edited by FitnessChick on 03-18-2001 at 08:51 PM.]

[archive_FitnessChick]

Forgot to mention I am currently using paperstrol, 25 mg e.d., EQ,(ganabol) 100 mg every 3 days, and clen daily, 6 tabs (oxyflux).....

[retropump]

It sounds to me like you're 100% on track for your competition. You're doing everything I would be doing (except the gear and lasix). Your diet and cardio split look good. When you get the details for you carb/sodium depletion carb loading etc.... let us have a final glance at it to make sure it makes sense. One thing I will mention about carb loading/sodium depletion is that it takes practice to dial it in perfectly. First time around you really just have to do what your coach says, but make sure they're looking at your progress everyday of that last week, and several times on the Friday and Saturday morn.

[archive_FitnessChick]

Thanks...let me see if I can take some pics in the next 2 days---I have to work tomorrow but I will try to post them on Tues.

[AJ]

what are your totals right now for Protein/Carb/Fat intake per day?

[Temple]

FC - about 1 1/2 to go right? How are things coming along?

[archive_FitnessChick]

I am 10 days out today, looking about right for the day. I am 136, 8% bf...the winny & eq are helping maintain my size---I finished my last shot of eq this past saturday, and will be done with the winny this saturday, which will also help me cut some water.


I have been consuming about 2000-2100 cal a day, about 80-90 gms of fat, mostly by the way of natural p.b., about 220 gm protein daily, and about 80 gm of carbs, and every fourth day increasing the carbs to about 150 and lowering the protein to keep the calories even. I have been doing split sessions of cardio and training in the pm. I am cutting the pb today & adding extra flax oil to compensate. I am increasing the carbs slightly for the next few days on recommendation of my nutrition advisor to make my body respond better to my low carbing. On Sunday PM, Mon, Tues, and Wed I will cut my carbs to broccoli, getting about 50-60 gms just form that. I will keep my protein up, getting it from chicken, tuna, and eggwhites. Then Wed pm, Thurs, & Fri I will be carbing up. I decided not to switch to distilled as I will be using diuretics & need the minerals. Wed & Thurs I will be cutting the sodium... Friday I will take in sodium, but no water. I will be hitting the sauna friday also. And Saturday, God willing, I will be victorious!

[retropump]

Thanks for the update. I was just wondering how you're FEELING at this stage, as opposed to how you look. And if you're feeling so bad you wanna bite my head off for asking, then I understand completely. But if you can find the time and energy it would be great if you could give us some insight into how it feels so close to precompetition. Good luck and have a great experience no matter what.

[new@gettinbig1]

Glad to hear you are doing well FC! I wish you the best of luck in your upcoming show. Let me know how everything worksout for you as far as your diet etc up to showtime. I am 4 weeks out from my show and starting to plan. I have plenty of help as well, but any advice you have, I would appreciate it! GOODLUCK and keep us posted!

[Temple]

FC - I don't know if you realize what a huge inspiration that you as well as some of the other lady vets are for those of us who are at the beginning of our journey. I think it is pretty safe to say that you have a whole board pulling for you! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[tnheygirl]

Good luck to you we all know you will do great! Of course we expect a full report asap! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Athena Strong]

Your updates sound like you are right on target! I have done three shows and what I would do the last week besides tan-train-cook-and practice my routine --is schedule my manicure-pedicure-massage--and go make up shopping. Might sound a bit silly--but it kept my mind off other things and lipstick always looks better when you are below 10 percent bodyfat:)

Train heavy
take yourself lightly:)

Athena Strong

[archive_Iron God]

Th only way I see her not placing 1st is if she goes out on stage and has a brain fart or passes out.
This is a very large local event but during our preparation we have been comparing her to NPC USA and JR USA contestants her size, symetry,seperation and proportion on on par with any national competitor and better than most (and this is coming from 3 IFBB judges)plus she got a purrty face /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif . Her only weak point is the muscular maturity that time develops and learning the supreme confidence it takes to win.

I think this is something every one of you ladies should try to do at least once in your lives, the things you will learn about your body and your character are invaluable.


IG

[Trinity13]

FC, Wishing you the best of luck in your upcoming show. Although luck has nothing to do with the way you look.

We all know you will do GREAT and we will be pulling for you.

Best of Luck to you.

You can not achieve what your mind can not concieve

[skydancer]

Good luck FC!! You have no idea how much I admire your dedication and discipline!

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Those who dare to fail miserably, can achieve greatly. - R.F. Kennedy

[luv2workout]

You go, FC!!! You are so awesome girl and an inspiration to all of us! If and when you get the time, can you post some pics? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[archive_FitnessChick]

Hmmm, how do I feel......well, I haven't been my normal sweet self, to say the least....It fluctuates....I can definitly say that my energy is seriously lagging, as well as my endurance & strength. I am using clen which isn't giving me the burst it normally does, and even the EQ & winny aren't helping keep my strength up to par. Granted I am not weak, but I am not where I was a few weeks ago. I crave everything under the sun. I don't think I have ever craved half the things I do now. I actually started druling over the smell of a tuna sub yesterday....yes i like tuna, but I mean literally salivating....uggghh!


I really do feel it is all worth it though. I haven't ever looked this good in my life. My waist shrunk significantly, my abs are deeply etched, veins all through my stomach, some already in my quads, my calves have visible splits....it goes on & on....I am always naturally lean, but now all the little things are falling into place.

My posing suit c/o CeeJay, seamstress to the fitness stars, should arrive on the first. I went with royal blue for the prejudging---for those of you who don't know, for the prejudging, you need a basic solid lycra suit. For the PM show, you can more or less do whatever you want. i went with a pink hologram material dressed up with rhinestones. I will be getting my hair & nails done too! I need a little pampering! IG has been good----he is semi-dieting with me----not quite as strict as me, but his sacrifices are making my miserable diet a whole lot easier...not to mention the 2 boxes of entamins chocolate glazed doughnuts & 2 pkgs of frozen kitkats waiting in my freezer for me after the show /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.....

[WarLobo]

No luck needed for you FC, keep it tight and try to have fun /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LAte

Lobo

[archive_FitnessChick]

.......did I mention I am posing to "Shes a brick house"!!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Temple]

Cool!!! please don't forget pics for your fans when you feel human again!

[archive_FitnessChick]

Also, here is the plan for the next few days leading up until Vday! As I said before my nutrition guy said to up my carbs, so I have been--my caloric breakdaown for the last 3 days has been...
Mon 3-26, calories 1872, protein 237, carbs 164, fat 55

Tues 3-27, calories 1804, protein 209, carbs 157, fats 40.5 (that has been my lowest fat day in a long time)

Wed 3-28, calories 2378, protein 194, carbs 156, fat 95 ( I was a bit too high on the cals today, and the fat intake needs to come down...today was a bit of a goof up)

Here is the plan for the upcoming days---

Last cardio workout this Friday the 30th, last workout on Wed the 4th (shoulders & arms, last tanning session on Wed the 4th also, to help cut water. Last winny tab this saturday.

29th-Th--high carb, 1+ gal H2O
30th-F--high carb, 1+ gal H2O
31st-Sat--high carb, 1+ gal H20
1st-Sun--am high carb, pm start cutting carbs, 1+ gal H2O
2nd-M--low carb(only green leafys & protein(chicken, tuna, eggwhites) every hour in small amounts), 1+ gal H2O
3rd-T--low carb(same as above), 1+ gal H2O
4th-W--low carb(same as above, 2+ gal H2O, cut sodium
5th-Th--high carb pyramiding, 2+ gal H2O, cut sodium. PM start diuretics (dyaczide)
6th-F--high carb pyramiding, introduce sodium, cut water, hit sauna.AM diuretics, and additional in the PM if needed.
7th-Sat--Sodium with No water, pancakes & steak & eggs for breakfast, small amounts. Between AM & PM shows, oatmeal, honey, jam, wine, etc, still no water.
Sat PM--PIG OUT!!!!!!!!

[retropump]

Wow, looks like you've got some top notch coaching going on there. I have absolute confidence you'll nail it on the day, and look forward (like everyone else) to photos!!!!! Have fun and keep us posted.

[Temple]

What is your body going to do post contest? Not that you probably give a rat's behind but just curious if there will be extreme water retention or exactly how it will react.

[archive_FitnessChick]

Oh, I would say i will be holding more water then the titanic after the contest! Hehe....actually, I will probably look great on sunday(& I have a photoshoot), and monday I will still look pretty good, but after that, ugghh, I don't even want to imagine. I dieted 2 1/2 weeks before going out to the arnold, and I wasn't even cutting out all the extras & I was still having rice...In a matter of 3 days after the show of eating a lot & a bit more badly then what I was doing, I gained 7 lbs. Most of it was water of course, but still.....

[This message was edited by FitnessChick on 03-29-2001 at 09:26 AM.]

[archive_FitnessChick]

Okay!!!! Crunch Time!


I was instructed to up my carbs till sunday & I am filling out, even spilling over a bit. I am semi-stressing, but I was warned this would happen. It is supposedly going to make my low carbing more effective, but man, I feel like this put me back to where I was 2 weeks ago. I am still doing my split sessions of cardio(uugghhh-anyone who knows me knows how much I loathe cardio-especially split sessions for an hour each--anyway, I am taking in 170 gms of carbs up until sunday.

[archive_MR. BMJ]

Hey, before I forget, good luck with your competition FITNESSCHICK. You are an inspiration not only to the fitness community, but also to the women and men of these boards. It's an honor to be able to collaborate with you. You too IRON GOD, as we all know, you are feeling the emotions of this contest yourself big guy. You should be proud!
MR. BMJ

[new@gettinbig1]

Just checkin to see how you are doing! I know it is your last week. How are you feeling? I hope you are doing well! Keep us posted this week, I am sure you will be busy......you will be great. I hope to learn some pointers from you, for my show in 3 weeks!

[archive_FitnessChick]

Today is day #1 of low carbing.

I will consume 240 gms protein from combined sources of chicken, tuna, & egg whites. I will consume approx 60 gms of carbs only from broccoli, yuck...I used to love broccoli. I will also use 3 spoons of flax for my fats. All whey protein & peanut butter is cut out now---

[Temple]

Oh baby but remember is is only 6 days! Why only broccoli though?

[FitFossil]

Good luck in your show. I can only imagine how totally awesome you're looking now. (I saw some pics from several months ago.) Just remember when you're on that stage, you have a huge cyber fan club all pulling for you!

[archive_FitnessChick]

The guy doing my nutrition said its the best way to carb deplete your body-the broccoli will go right through me...I am sure I could use other green leafy veggies but I am partial to broccoli.