For those who know , please help w/ DNP

[archive_Farmer]

My wife and I (I'm Farmer,I lurk around the anibolic forum )are about to try DNP and it is my understanding that ladies need additional supplements when taking it. Please let us know how you do your DNP cycles. Diet, sups,training, ect. Also Mrs. Farmer is about 30 lbs overwieght, so keep that in mind when giving advice or suggestions. Thanks for the ladies perspective.

[tnheygirl]

Hi
I and my husband have done several DNP cycles and many will disagree with me but I think all thats needed for women using 200mg caps of DNP is a multi vitamin, 2 tablespoons gycerol, 1000mg vitamin c, minimum of 2 gallons of water. I think throwing a bunch of other stuff in the mix is not a good idea. Simple is best. The less stuff your body has to process while on DNP the better.

[archive_Farmer]

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[tnheygirl]

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[Monster]

first, DNP is the most effective way to lose fat chemically, but it will kill you if you're not careful. this is an informative thread for cycle tips. if you don't know much about DNP, or just want general info, please do a yahoo search on the subject. i'm sure fonz can add a lot more useful info here too if he sees this thread.
with summer coming there has been a great interest in DNP cycles. i have had more DNP cycles under my belt than i'd like to admit and i will try to share with you what i've learned to have been helpful when using DNP to maximize fat loss.
these are numbered randomly and not in order of importance.

1. carb deplete for 3 days prior to DNP because DNP will take a good 2-3 days to deplete the body's glycogen stores before it can efficiently burn stored fat.

2. once on DNP eat an isometric diet (33% prot, 33% fat, 33% carbs). isometric by calories not by weight. restricting carbs will put the body in a state of hypoglycemia and can be dangerous to the health and also the mental well being. DNP also mimics insulin in that it shuttles glucose into the cells in the absence of glucose. this is great for fat burning, but when carb intake is too low the blood glucose can be at dangerously low levels as well.

3. wear gloves when handling the caps and the container the caps come in.

4. t4 to t3 conversion in the liver will slow starting around day 4/5 assuming the dose is adequately high to cause enough temperature rise. supplementing 25mcg of t3 is essential. this just brings the t3 level in the body back to normal and maybe slightly above baseline.

5. keep cool! this is very important for your well being and state of mind during a DNP cycle. sleep alone if at all possible. keep the guest bedroom (your new room) cold and get a FAN. do not underestimate the importance of the fan. a 55 degree bedroom plus a high powered fan should be sufficient for keeping you comfortable at night when you sleep. without the fan you might have to sleep in your walk-in freezer.

6. hydration. drink and drink often. don't plan any long road trips while taking dnp...

7. supplements. antioxidants: E, C, glutathione, selenium, and anything else you can think of. take about 2x as much as normal. 1 tablespoon of glycerol 3x/day will help with energy and carb cravings. 1 tbsp of potassium citrate .5 hours before each cap will help with acidity caused by dnp and help with workouts. it also helps people who get nauseated from dnp caps. ECA: i don't like using stimulants, but many people who use this say it helps them curb their appetite and carb cravings. melatonin or GHB for sleep especially the first 3 nights when there seems to be slight CNS stimulation and combined with the heat sleep can be difficult for some people.

8. front loading: this is only recommended for experienced users who are familiar with the dosing of the caps from their source. front loading provides a kick start to get the DNP up to speed in the body because it takes a while for DNP levels to build up in the body. i find this to be very very effective.

9. the cycle: i recommend 3-4 back to back cycles of 8 days on and 7 days off starting 25mcg t3 at day 4/5 of the first cycle and carrying it through till 4/5 days after the last cap of the last cycle. with the same supplier i have seen the best results from myself and many others at a consistent dose of 6-7mg/kg-bw. for practical reasons some people can not be hot and sweaty all day long and especially with summer weather coming up it's going to be very uncomfortable at this dose. for this reason a long extended lower dose cycle can be considered. i have noticed some good results with this as well. no noticeable sides and steady losses.

10. dosing: there can be a huge difference between 400mg and 600mg, or b/w 600 and 800. since most of the caps you buy will only come in 200mg caps this presents a problem if you want to take something in between such as 500mg or 700mg without having to break up the caps which will be very messy and inconvenient. here's what i suggest:

200mg/day: 1 cap/24 hours
300mg/day: 1 cap/18 hours
400mg/day: 1 cap/12 hours
500mg/day: 1 cap/10 hours
600mg/day: 1 cap/8 hours
700mg/day: 1 cap/7 hours
800mg/day: 1 cap/6 hours

this is assuming you have 200mg caps. at the high doses the hours separate only by 1 hour, even less if you go above 800mg/day. this doesn't sound like a lot, but it makes a huge difference, especially over a period of 7-8 days.
spreading out the dosing helps to reduce the intensity of the sides at any given moment because the peak heat production is about 1.5-6 hours after ingestion of the cap. this also helps to stop or cutail dosing in case a certain dose becomes too severe in terms of either heat or allergies.

this is by no means conclusive or comprehensive. i will most likely edit this tomorrow night cuz i am very tired right now and will be surprised if anything i wrote made sense. like i said before, for more infor on DNP do a yahoo search, this was only a cycle tip.

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[This message was edited by E2 on 12-20-2001 at 04:10 PM.]