Anavar

[Temple]

I have searched Anavar and oxadrolone and am only coming up with "get your legal steroids here" type hits and my search on Elite produced mostly dosing type posts. What I am looking for is some clinical data on this. I do have some questions that maybe you can answer.
In what I found the word aromatize came up - what does that mean?
Am I correct in what I have found so far that liver issues aren't really a problem with this drug esp. in the dosages that would be appropriate for a female?
Is it appropriate for use in a person who has a family history of coronary artery disease and does some things that lets just say don't do her any favors in this area or is this not an issue with short term use.
What is the price range of a cycle and where is it in comparison to cost with other types of AS?
Hair growth is listed as a side - as someone who fights facial hair on a regular basis would it be more likely that this would be one of the sides that I would experience? Is it going to make me aggressive - my DH refers to my ECA as "bitch in a bottle" so....?????
With the wide range of different AS out there how does one choose??? It seems that everyone likes something different.
How much of the gains can you retain once you go off? Is it something that you can do once or twice and even though you lose some muscle after coming off you will still have more than what you started with which can be maintained or is it something that you have to do off and on for the rest of your life?
Does anyone know what if any are the long term effects of its use?? Twenty years down the road will we all be sitting in a doctors office thinking damn I wish I hadn't done that???
I'm giving this some real serious thought so any input from you guys would be greatly apprecated.
Thanks
Temple

[tygerman]

I like anavar, but it is the most expensive AS cycle, but for women it is not too much $$ as you only will only need 5 to 10 mg per day. I used 37.5 mg a day with no sides, and my gains were high quality. My girl is currently using 10 mg a day with no sides so far. IMHO it is the best AS for women.

[JUGGERNAUT]

I was just looking at some old posts on the stuff and wondering the same thing I am 5'1 110lbs female and am thinking about winny and then I read about anavar and wonder if I should start there I want muscle not body builder big just more than the average woman.I did read that you can have hairloss on anava but saw palmetto took that away and voice hoarsness.I will keep checking back need the same advice. have you ever taken winny? what are your stats?I am starting out got good advice on diet except how much protein a day carbs a day calories a day that kind of thing looked at cyberdiet.com pretty neat.

ALL MEN DIE, BUT NOT ALL MEN REALLY LIVE.

[archive_Ulter]

Temple I would like to see some of the responses to this. One in particular from the middle of the Pacific. I will say that the cost is about $160 for a good cycle.

[This message was edited by Ulter on 03-15-2001 at 09:14 AM.]

[archive_Ulter]

Oxandrolone is the perfect AS. Man or woman it doesn’t matter. There is no drug that will produce the results of Ox mg for mg with the track record this drug has for little or no sides. The cost is the only thing that keeps this drug from replacing all other AS as the drug of choice. Do I like it or what?
This is one of only a few of all the AS currently being used by BB’s that has been tracked for long term side effects, short term side effects and over dosage, and by researchers on 4 continents. The consensus is that there are very few cases of long term side effects and the number of patients with short term side effects, in studies that measure liver values and such is in single digits percentage wise.
It is the only AS approved by the FDA for treating children. It is used by physicians around the world to treat girls as young as 9 years old with turners syndrome. It is used to treat Jerry’s kids with MD. And of course it’s most common use today is to stave off wasting in AIDS patients, followed by burn victims and patients with spinal injuries.
That said, there are precautions as with any drug. If you read all the precautions of most drugs you would never take them, so lets look at what the manufacturer has to say.

General:
Women should be observed for signs of virilization (deepening of the voice, hirsutism, acne, clitoromegaly). Discontinuation of drug therapy at the time of evidence of mild virilism is necessary to prevent irreversible virilization. Some virilizing changes in women are irreversible even after prompt discontinuance of therapy and are not prevented by concomitant use of estrogens. Menstrual irregularities may also occur.
Anabolic steroids may cause suppression of clotting factors II, V, VII, and X, and an increase in prothrombin time.

Laboratory tests:
Women with disseminated breast carcinoma should have frequent determination of urine and serum calcium levels during the course of therapy.
Because of the hepatotoxicity associated with the use of 17-alpha-alkylated androgens, liver function tests should be obtained periodically.
Periodic (every 6 months) x-ray examinations of bone age should be made during treatment of children to determine the rate of bone maturation and the effects of androgen therapy on the epiphyseal centers.
Serum lipids and high-density lipoprotein cholesterol determinations should be done periodically as androgenic anabolic steroids have been reported to increase low-density lipoproteins. Serum cholesterol levels may increase during therapy. Therefore, caution is required when administering these agents to patients with a history of myocardial infarction or coronary artery disease. Serial determinations of serum cholesterol should be made and therapy adjusted accordingly.
Hemoglobin and hematocrit should be checked periodically for polycythemia in patients who are receiving high doses of anabolic steroids.

There is one more thing they write that I found interesting:
“Anabolic steroids have not been shown to enhance athletic performance.”
Well the lawyers sure have covered their butts with all that.. and that’s what they are paid for. One of the things I find interesting is that they never mention their product by name. They only talk about AAS and the precautions that have been laid out are the ones set forth by the FDA for the use of AAS. Not that we should ignore them but it is interesting.

The average cycle costs about $160 for a woman and two to three times that for a man. As you might imagine I highly recommend it.

[JUGGERNAUT]

what can you really except anavar to do? I have heard that it really don't give much muscle gain but burns fat,if that is the case than what would you supplement it with to get some muscle? how about eq for woman have not seen much on the archieves on that subject

ALL MEN DIE, BUT NOT ALL MEN REALLY LIVE.

[skydancer]

$160 seem low to me...or a short cycle. At least in my research.

Temple most women I've talked to really like anavar because of minimal to no sides with some good gains. I think its difficult to lay out cold hard numbers in term of what you might expect for gains since we women react so damn differently to a/s. Gains will depend too on your diet, training, sleep, length of cycle, amount you are taking etc.

Also if you search on elite for "members boards" there are some good ones that have a/s profiles that have pretty thorough descriptions of each....

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Those who dare to fail miserably, can achieve greatly. - R.F. Kennedy

[This message was edited by skydancer on 03-15-2001 at 12:07 PM.]

[archive_Ulter]

You should be able to find it for $1 a tab. If you take 2/day the first week that's $14 and 5 weeks at 4/day that's $140 more. As far as expected results I will leave that to those women who have used it. Ulababe will post her results I'm sure.

[retropump]

Here I am fresh from the middle of the South Pacific.....If you're a female and you're intent on using AS (for cutting or mass gain) then you should save up your pennies and go for the Anavar IMHO. For most women who just want to add a little definition (toning?!) and lose fat there is no need to take anything else. If you wanna gain a lot of mass quickly, then you may need to throw some other stuff in to the mix. Or take out a second mortgage. 10-20mg per day in divided doses should work fine. It's a very safe drug.

[WarLobo]

HEY! I don't want to her you Lady complaining about the cost of a cycle... Sheeesh. It takes me $500 JUST to think about getting one started....LOL

LAte

Lobo

[skydancer]

FINALLY - a benefit to being a woman...LOL!

Hey Retro is the anavar half life similar to oral winstrol? Same idea behind dividing up the daily doses?

Also whats more beneficial...ramp up than down or use the same dose (except maybe the first week lower to check reaction) for the entire cycle?

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Those who dare to fail miserably, can achieve greatly. - R.F. Kennedy

[retropump]

Oxandrolone has a similar clearance rate to winny. For women there is no need to taper down. For men on low dose there is no need to taper down. For everyone else there's clomid.

[skydancer]

Thank you as always.

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Those who dare to fail miserably, can achieve greatly. - R.F. Kennedy

[archive_Ulter]

Temple, trust me you won't need 15mg/day. You will grow like a weed on 10mg/day.
And yes AM PM split.

[WarLobo]

You should at least go for eight weeks, 10 is good too, as is 12. That's really up to you your funding sitch. At 10mg, MOST women will find that this is the best bang for your buck dose - and little to know sides. Of course everyone is different.

Blood work can be done a few weeks after your cycle if you wish.

LAte

Lobo

LAte

Lobo

[WarLobo]

Blood work is one of them things that your going to need everynow and then. I won't tell you it's required, as I figure, 80% of all the folks that do gear don't get blood work done... Hell, even I've skiped a time or two.... BUT, in the long run, it's the smart thing to do.

LAte

Lobo

[QBALL]

HELLO Temple,
My wife is on a cycle of clen and anavar as we speak. If you look around hard enough you can find 100 5mg anavar caps(generic from spain)for about 150usd and 100 2.5mg tabs from mexico for about 170usd. As far as the dose per day the posts above are giving you some really good advice, Good luck hope all goes well. QBALL [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]