Okay who knows what about HGH

[Kaizen]

I've done some looking around EF and I'm just looking for some good solid experience info. Anyone?

[archive_Ulter]

What exactly is it you want to know about it K? Price, doses, effects, etc?

[Kaizen]

Hi Ulter,

Basically, anything that you know... I did a search here and on EF and it seems like HGH is just a whole bunch of buck and no bang to some people and a whole bunch of bang for the buck to others... It appears the latter response is more from women and the former from men. Just curious not planning on it at anytime soon. My guess is that it is a virilization issue for women...Seen a few posts on stacking with anavar and gaining...also it would seem to be something to use if you're approaching atested comp. rather than dealing with long AS half lives...am I on track or missing anything?

[BigWhitey]

do you have any specific questions ??? I may be able to help you out with information .
As far as a virilization issue for women , its not a sex hormone and of all the known side effects masculinization is not one of them .

[WarLobo]

It is often used in conjunction with an anabolic. For women, as long as you do not use it for years, very litte of the "standard" roid side effects ever occure. Some female pro's have the same problem as the men, the midsection expansion thing... and for women, most folks say it makes the jaw line grow. I, myself, have not accepted this theory.

JG on Elite as used it with anavar. With great results. The most common factor in women not using it more is cost.

LAte

Lobo

[Decaman]

Hmmmm, interesting that you are getting differing opinions and here is why. First and foremost in order for gh to work to it's maiximum potential , you will need the following- thyroid hormone, insulin, and androgens. This creates the optimal environment for the liver to produce and release more growth hormone. So to me when you hear it is bunk , more than likely the person using it did not use it properly. Second the results are very slow coming, i am into my second kit and am not all that sure if I have actually seen anything, except for fat loss , which most will agree upon, it's the muscle building properties which are in question and still shrouded in mystery. I will tell you unless you are planning on spending in excess of 1500-2000 dollars dont even bother, and that will get you about 3 kits if you can find them. Even with arimidex my hands are swollen every morning and they hurt, also i was quite nauseous for the first month. Since I have added t3 I have actually dropped some weight however i look much leaner, this may also coincide with the fact i am almost through 2 kits. I have been using 4.5 iu's per day. I have decided to shoot all of them first thing in the morning once a day. Again you will get differing opinions here. It is in and out of your system so fast i am not sure it matters with such a low dosage. Had I been using 8 -18 iu's I certanly would have broken it up. I have no information regarding a woman using it, therefore I can not say wether or not it will be useful.




I AM DECAMAN-DAMN GOOD TO BE ME!

[BigWhitey]

hey deca , im on my 3rd gh backed cycle and i learned something that i wish i had figured out the first time . EAT ...im getting down between 6000-8000kcal a day and i just keep getting bigger and leaner (im now over 260 and under 12%). ( 5 iu day(2.5x2)1200mg TE week , 100mgA50ed, 3000mcg tricana ed , .5mg arimidex eod, 50mg prov. ed and 400mg deca week )
I get the swollen hands in the AM too.
I have a question , where in the liver is that GH produced ? I thought it was the adenohypothesis of the pituitary that produced and released GH and the liver stored and released glycogen .

[Decaman]

You may be right, i am not sure now. I figured i would go to the books to check , i get one telling me pituatary, and one says liver. I am not real good with anatomy heh heh, hopefully someone else can shed so more light. I wish i caould get it down bro, i hear you, my cycle is similar to yours i just cant get the cals down for some reason, i am guesssing the gh is making me a little ill in the stomach.




I AM DECAMAN-DAMN GOOD TO BE ME!

[Kaizen]

BigW
You're right it is in the pituatary... but from what I've gleaned it is possible to increase the efficacy of the HGH based on your diet... thus th e liver pull in....Is JuicyG on this board? I'd be interested in her experience...I vaguely recall it involved HGH and anvar and great results but I don't recall if she had done anavar alone and gotten great results and then added HGH or if she went whole hog....

[JuicyGirl]

I do have experience with GH. I was taking 2 ius of Serono Serostim broken in two dosages injected subcutaneously. I do believe it was helpful in fat loss and muscle gain but cannot be sure exactly how much. I have read studies that claim GH does not work, but I am close to several athletes who have awesome physiques and swear by GH. During the time I was taking it I was dieting, doing cardio, training hard, and taking 10mg/Anavar per day. If cost is an issue to you I would try a combo of AS, stimulants, and a challenging training regimine before spending a fortune on GH. I do not consider it to be the magic bullet. (my grandma has been on 1 iu GH with very good results, but she's in her 80s- I highly recommend it for the older population).

A female friend of mine in her late 20s went from about 26%BF to around 18% in 4 months time without changing any other variables by using 2ius a day. She experienced no sides.That is what convinced me to try a cycle. Hope this helps :-)

HGRH (human growth releasing hormone) causes the release of HGH. As we age we still produce HGH, but actually produce less HGRH - so we make it but don't release it. HGH when released stimulates the liver to release IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor #1) as well as other IGF substances. GHG has no direct affect on metabolism or growth. It is the IGF factors that cause any metabolic/anabolic affects. Naturally IGF-1 elevates when insulin drops. Fasting and low blood sugar cause the release of HGH and the production of IGF-1. That is why growth is limited with natural HGH production. However many body builders combine insulin and HGH, taking advantage of insulin's anabolic properties and create an artificial ultra-anabolic environment by the synergistic affect of the two. However I consider taking insulin too dangerous to make it worth it for that fact alone. You can create an artificially lowered IGF-1 reading on a blood test by drinking a sugary soda pop before the test because of the inverse relationship of IGF-1 and insulin. You can measure HGH directly with a blood test but it is ungodly expensive, so typically they measure IGF-1 instead.

I have been on HGH for about a year now for anti-aging purposes. I am 39. I had alot of severe back injuries and it has really helped me recuperate. The MD that originally put me on HGH is a woman BB/Doctor who used to compete in Ms. Olympia in the very early 80's. Talk about the anti-aging benefits of AS. She is around 50 and looks hot in a miniskirt (which she fortunately wears to work sometimes). One BB on "the Rocks" old bulletin board was having alot of problems growing on large amounts of AS and ended up contacting her for a phone consultation and she is helping him with the problem.

I hope that helps somewhat, although the info is not very practical. I have my practical experience, and I am in med school - but not real knowledgeable at all about meds as I have just really gotten through the basic sciences part. Just starting clinical things.

[Hardcore4Evr]

Just wanted to let you all know this is a very informative post, and its helping me learn more and more about HGH. I have finally decided to start a cycle of HGH, Test, EQ, Arimidex, & T3 beginning in May, and keep going until September. Probably will start out taking 2iu's per day for the first month, then up the dosage to 4iu's for 2 months, and for the remainder i may go up to 6iu's depending on funds. Im mainly looking to shed excess bodyfat while maintaining my current weight of 205. Yeah, i would like to be about 10 pounds heavier, but solid, hard, and about 5% bodyfat. Right now, im at about 7% bodyfat since i have been taking clen & GBL. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] For some reason, this week i have been on a GBL kick, and have gotten the best workouts of my life. Not to mention, my calves are up to a whopping 18 inches. Not bad for a 5'10" 205 pounder. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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