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Old 11-20-2000, 08:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Your AS of choice for Women?

What do you ladies or gents find to be the most effective...

For me it's hands down winny (injects) FC has in the last 1 1/2 year gained 23 lbs of LBM. And is currently at 145 lbs 11% and maintaining with no permanent sides.

What do you ladies use?

Also for Lobo what have you found to have the best results overall?

Also I know alot of this depends on the individual

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Old 11-20-2000, 10:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Really, i'm surprised, she didn't experience any masculinizing effects???? I've alwyas found winny to be pretty harsh on women, but then again, i haven't trained many women on juice.

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Old 11-20-2000, 11:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well you all already know but I'll post it anyway.
Sust 1/4amp every 2 wks. I am on week 5 and I have had no bad sides at all. Not even water! I have had a major sex drive increase and some clit enlargement-so add those two together and damn am I having unbelievable sex! It has always been great and I didn't think it could get any better until now! Not to get too graphic but I .......
nevermind it's too graphic!lol
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Old 11-20-2000, 11:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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E2,

Initially I thought she was gonna grow an extra appendage and beard.. so far NO sides and this is her 4 th cycle of the stuff, also know another female who has been on for 6 weeks with Zero sides and these are at 50mg EOD injects..so I think the key to this stuff is do it for short intense bursts.

Weird..from all I read in theory I thought winny was gonna be harsh..but in reality that doesn't seem to be the case.


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Old 11-20-2000, 12:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've already posted this but here goes...
Drugs I've tried:

Primobolan(2 cycles) - got decent gains but sides were hoarse voice and facial acne (not pretty), increased body hair.

Deca-Durabolan - I think I took too much cuz those sides are with me forever.... (50mg, 100mg, 50mg) Deeper voice, enlarged clit, increased body hair, this all really sucks and I regret it. I did get stronger but the sides were not worth it.

ANAVAR is the best! I'm on my second cycle now. The first cycle I gained >10lbs. muscle. and lost >10lbs. fat. No sides except towards the end my voice felt a little raspier. That went away when I stopped. Anavar made me so hard. I love it!

I'm feeling frustrated now because I don't feel like I can gain like I want to without a stronger drug. My body is hypersensitive and I wonder if my voice can get worse with small dosages (it's not noticably deep to other people, but I notice it and I can't sing anymore). I'd like to put on another 10 lbs. of muscle over the next 6 months. We'll see...

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Old 11-20-2000, 01:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I know many women have a fear of it, but for me, winny is hands down my choice by personal experience.....My results have been phenominal when coupled with a good high protein diet & intense workouts-----my natural bodyweight has increased from 123 prior to my first cycle, up to 144 currently....with my bodyfat actually going down over the course of the 3 cycles.....My strength gains have been astonishing, and my sides have been minimal & reversible.
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Old 11-20-2000, 01:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Dosing by far is the most important factor. Right now Nitro will not even concider anything other than light test dose. And she has been compeating and training for 20 years now. Even had a doc work with her many years ago (gave her a fricking cc of deca - which did NOT go over very well).

Once you find your target dosage that gives you a solid gain with minimal sides (maintain your female qualities), then you should stick to that amout and keep training. It might take an extra year to build that muscle that would have come quicker if one kicked up the dosage, but then you would not have to worry about looking like a man either.

We are always looking for that greener grass, and us guys are VERY guilty of this. Ladies, do not let this rub off on you. If somthing is working than don't fuck with it! Once you find a roid that is working then don't worry about tring someting new. Resutls are what matters, not the latest stack.

FC loves winny, and rightly so. Jaye, I figure, will be a deca babe forever (unless she finds that primo cycle she has upcomming is the shit)
Snow will also put deca into every cycle. Nitro loves the test, as well as a few others. A few have found anavar to be just right.

But with every great result you hear, there are a few stories of cycles that were just to much to handle.... Sometimes anavar makes the hair fall out a tad faster - this happened to Glycerin. Who was it that got all bloated up on primo? Hands got all dry and such....was that you Tnhey?

The only rule that truly applies is that you will never know how it works untill you try it.

I find giving advice to women about gear can be damn hard. I don't know how many countless times I get this e-mail:

Hi, I'm 5'5" weigh 140 and been training hard for the last 6 months. I want to drop some weight, gain some muscle and my boy friend said some deca and clen will help....

And so it goes

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Old 11-20-2000, 08:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 11-21-2000, 02:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Nice post Lobo!
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Old 01-18-2001, 10:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've done one 6 week cycle of anavar. I loved it. I was incredibly hard and was able to diet without losing any strength. The idea of cutting and not getting weaker in the gym was a real plus. Not one side. I felt comfortable taking it without worry of sides. For such a newbie (only training correctly 1 1/2years) that was important. As far as gaining muscle though I would have to say it helped moreso with preserving. Which is right on track with anavar.

While it did exactly what it was supposed to I am eager to try something that will amount to a more mass gain now. I like the paper winny idea but then again there is sust. hmmmmm decisions, decisions..... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img]
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Old 01-19-2001, 03:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Anavar was my first cycle: 5mg/day for the first 2 weeks and 10mg/day for 6 weeks. I gained 20%-30% strength with a lot of sides: clit enlargement, facial, back & chest acne, hoarse voice in the first two weeks of the cycle, water retention. However, I was more self confident with a greater sense of well-being.
After being off for three weeks I started losing about 10% of my strength.
To keep my gains I took EQ for 6 weeks. I gained back what I lost being off but no more. In my opinion EQ is great to solidify your gains. I was also using it to cut but I was disappointed with those properties of the drug.
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Old 01-20-2001, 07:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ula, them side sound a WHOLE lot like you got some low does methel test instead of anaver. Never have I ever seen real anavar result in clitoral inlargement. Let alone your voice droping.

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Old 01-20-2001, 09:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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No I have the real thing from a drug store. Prescription Oxandrin made by BTG.
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Old 01-23-2001, 09:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Ula, maybe you were using 5mg pills instead of the 2.5 and were actually doing 10mg and 20mg. According to all the literature I have read about Oxandrolone, you should not have had any sides with the dosage you described.

I am currently using Anavar, have been on for 13 days, started with 5 mg the first 5 days no sides, so upped it to 10 mg. So far, NO sides, haven't seen any changes at the gym either. But was told it should kick-in in about 2 weeks, so should start seeing changes soon. Can't wait. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img]

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I agree that Ula is an anamoly. J/K But her sides were real and she is not alone. This is... well you can see what it is. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


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Old 01-23-2001, 10:08 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Have always realizes these are possible side effects and never meant to imply that they weren't real. Just wondering why she would get them at such low dosages. MOST women don't experience ANY side effects at 10 mg a day. Those sides usually occur with higher dosages or stronger steroid drug, such as Deca, Sus, Primo, etc. I had the same sides but was on Deca 60mg a week.

Maybe she is super sensitive to this particular drug. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img]

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I'm sorry I didn't mean to come off like that. I meant to say her sides were "real bad". Not "real" [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-23-2001, 11:21 AM   #18 (permalink)
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No Problem. It' just that now I'm worried about sides TOO. I thought with those dosages I was Home Free with this one. I guess NOT, But so far so good.

My voice was never high I have always had a rather deep voice for a woman but after my Deca cycle its ridiculous and there is nothing I can do about it, and worst of all I WANT MORRRREEEE MUSCLE. Natural just takes to damn long and was hoping to compete this year.

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Old 01-23-2001, 01:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Trinity- I experienced no signifigant sides at 10mg Anavar/day(except for a little hoarsness in the AM at the end of cycle- went away). I had an increase in strength, fat loss, and overall muscle hardness within the first few days. My system is very sensitive and as you can read in my post above I've done some experimenting. Deca sucked for my voice too! You may be home free w/ Ana.... but as always, unless you want to be man, watch for sides

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Wow, this has to be one of the best posts on women and AAS that i have ever read. I have been going back and forth trying to figure out just what my fiance could take, that would be minimal on sides. Some say Winny, some say Anavar, etc. Warlobo hit it right on the nose though. Everybody is different and will react differently to certain drugs and certain dosages. This is a trial and error kind of thing, and you just have to see what works best for you. I will try her at the anavar for what Ulababe called a good cycle. 5mg for the first week, and 10mg thereafter. The only thing, and yes this is a big thing, is the part where i read that anavar can cause females hair to fall out? Has this been a problem with anyone that has taken anavar before? My fiance has extremely thin hair, and i dont think she could afford to lose any! Thanks, and great post. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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I lose about 20 hairs a day normally. On Anavar that amount actually decreased by about 70%. But that’s just me.
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So, what you are saying is that everyone is different, and for some it will make the hair fall out, and for others it may make it grow. Hmm.....very interesting. I guess all i can do is try, and see what happens.

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Old 01-25-2001, 09:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
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When I did the Deca I started losing a lot of hair immediately following the cycle. I started taking Saw Palmetto and it diminished. Since I have started the Anavar I haven't had any hair loss. Noticed that a few days ago. I was really worried because of what happened with the Deca.

I am anxiously awaiting the strength increase and hardness. Nothing yet. It's been 14 days since I started so anytime now.

Will keep you posted.

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