NAME YOUR CURRENT DAILY MEAL PLAN [Archive]

archive_MR. BMJ

01-11-2006, 07:00 PM

Thought i'd throw this out there so everybody gets an idea on how some of us eat here.

Also, state whether you are dieting or bulking. You don't have to count calories or anything....just a simple diet plan that you are typically following at this time.

Here's what I eat right now. I'm 'sort' of getting ready to start bulking up a little until May.

Meal 1:
- 8 egg whites + 2-3 whole eggs with a few slices of ham scrambled up.
- 2-4 tortillas.
-apple

note: some days i'll just have a protein shake in the place of the omelet (mixed with 1%milk). then other days, i'll add a protein drink to this meal or add in some potatos.

Meal #2:

- 4 tortillas
- 6-8oz of ground beef mixed with black beans, cheese, doritos, olives, and Valentina Hot Sauce.
-Diet Squirt

Meal #3:

- Low-fat Mac & Cheese mixed with chicken (around 6oz) breast, corn and a little extra cheese. About 2-3 cups total.
-Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper (YUMMY!!!)

Meal #4:
- Same as meal #2.

Meal/Snack #5: (Pre-workout meal)
- 1 balance bar and 1 EAS low carb bar

Meal #5: (post-workout meal)
- 75g of whey isolate mixed with either water or 12oz of milk.
- NOTE: I bump the 'sugar' intake when using 'slin or when i'm full-on bulking.

Meal #6:
-Same as meal #3

Meal #7:

-6-8oz of Chicken, red meat, or fish
-large sweet potato with Smart Choice butter spread and cinnamon.

DONE!

***I'll prepare a protein shake mixed with milk and store it in the 'fridge so that if I wake up in the night to piss or something, or if I get a hunger craving, i'll down it.

***H20, all day long.

***I'll substitute things in the place of some of the meals. However, if I don't change up, then this is the backbone of my current plan that i'll follow.

BMJ

archive_Ulter

01-12-2006, 07:58 AM

Mine's pretty useless to anyone else but on most days...

1. 5 scoops Iso AGB/grape fruit juice
2. 3 eggs
3. Peanut Butter Cliff Bar
4. All Natural Peanut Butter 4 tbl
5. Peanut Butter Cliff Bar
6. 3 eggs 5 scoops Iso AGB/grape fruit juice
7. lot's of different things go here. I eat out every night. Most typical is a Greek Salad with Chicken and Chicken soup from Panera or Chicken/Black bean fajita salad from Amigo's.
8. All Natural Peanut Butter 4 tbl

archive_HULK1550

01-12-2006, 08:42 AM

715 60grm protein 150gm carbs (75g of dextrose)

930 60grms whey

1130 60 gr whey

130 60gr protein 150gr carbs

330 60gr protein 60g carbs

530 50g pro 45r carbs

700 50g whey 150grm carbs (75g dextrose)

during workout 100grm malto/dextrose

post workout 60gr protien 150g carbs

Fat is whatever i take in.

comes out to roughly

450 protein
800 carbs
usually around 100 fat

so like 6000 cals

"Everybody wants to be a body builder but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight"
-Ronnie Coleman

archive_Mr. Nobody

01-12-2006, 02:09 PM

1. coffee
2. shake
3. salad or sandwich
4. shake
5. shake
6. whatever is in the fridge or between couch cushions

Boy, not much of a plan. I need a vision thing for my nutrition, lol

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Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.

archive_HULK1550

01-12-2006, 02:17 PM

How the hell are you that big eating that? i can barely gain a lb with all that shit i have to force feed down my face

"Everybody wants to be a body builder but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight"
-Ronnie Coleman

archive_Killer

01-12-2006, 02:38 PM

Mr BMJ,

If you can bulk eating that, more power to you! I thought I could, and lasted about 3 days eating more of the same crap I always eat. Since then it has been pizza, burgers, and mexican every night! Along with fast food 3-4 times a week.

archive_Mr. Nobody

01-12-2006, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by HULK1550:

How the hell are you that big eating that? i can barely gain a lb with all that shit i have to force feed down my face

"Everybody wants to be a body builder but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight"
-Ronnie Coleman

Maybe I weigh 285 internetlbs which are 95 real ones
No, once I got up to 285, my set point got adjusted and my body sees 285 as the weight it needs to sustain. The funny thing is that if I want to diet I can drop the weight easily too....

Oh, and I forgot coffee is not only my first meal but also my beverage throughout the day, I have become a caffeine freak

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Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin

Disclaimer:
Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.

archive_Ulter

01-12-2006, 06:02 PM

Yeah!! Another one bites the dust! A full potter buddy!!!

archive_Mr. Nobody

01-12-2006, 06:05 PM

I own a mug which holds the amount of a whole coffee pot. So, when I am asked how many cups I drink, I naturally say....just 1.

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Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin

Disclaimer:
Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.

therealj

01-12-2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Ulter:

Mine's pretty useless to anyone else but on most days...

1. 5 scoops Iso AGB/grape fruit juice
2. 3 eggs
3. Peanut Butter Cliff Bar
4. All Natural Peanut Butter 4 tbl
5. Peanut Butter Cliff Bar
6. 3 eggs 5 scoops Iso AGB/grape fruit juice
7. lot's of different things go here. I eat out every night. Most typical is a Greek Salad with Chicken and Chicken soup from Panera or Chicken/Black bean fajita salad from Amigo's.
8. All Natural Peanut Butter 4 tbl

Have you considered adding some peanut butter? http://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

archive_Ulter

01-12-2006, 09:06 PM

I got that from YOU

archive_MR. BMJ

01-12-2006, 09:17 PM

Mr. N: Where the hell is the Chinese food buffet meals?

Ulter: I think you just stole "Mr. Peanut Butter" status away from Skippy-Boy J...lol. Do you eat your eggs plain? Eggs by themselves are nasty.

HULK: I'm glad you posted your diet again here. I read that thread you posted on at IT stating that you have most of your meals/protein intake from shakes. On average, how many of them "protein" meals are shakes? What do your shakes consist of as well?...if you don't mind me askin'?

KILLER: I know what you mean, i'm the same way as you. The plan I have above is what i'll try to 'somewhat' follow (also for $$$ purposes as well, since it doesn't cost too much). I do eat out a lot for lunch and sometimes dinner. Some of those meals I mentioned though, are made every 2-3 days because I make a whole bunch at a time. I just pack small containers to take to work with me. Therefore, since I already have it on hand, i'll just eat it. I'll eat El Pollo Loco and Quiznos a lot for lunch as well. I also eat a lot of carne asada tacos and burritos from this joint here in town. Oh and you know it sucka....my little Mexican honey is quite the cook!!! I just had THE BEST chicken enchiladas EVER the other night. She's pretty much forced me to get used to having "Valentina Hot Sauce" as a staple of my diet as well...lol.

Frackel: I've never read much research to really persuade me to believe that carbonated drinks will have that much of a negative impact on protein synthesis. I've read that it isn't really all that great during post-workout meals, but I never have one at that time anyway, so it doesn't really concern me. If you have anything that states otherwise, then i'd be happy to read it. BTW...Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper, squirt, A&W Root Beer, and Tropicana Diet Fruit punch/orangeade/lemonade are the bomb and taste soooo good. Since i'm not really leaning up, i'm not as cautious over the small stuff.

BMJ

archive_MR. BMJ

01-12-2006, 09:26 PM

I'll tell you what...I'd really like to see Iron God's diet plan because I remember reading his HUGE food bill that he posted on another thread a while back. Where you at big guy? His monthly food bill would have feed me for like a year...and I think that was just on meat.

To be honost, the hardest meal for me to prepare for and make is BREAKFAST!!! God, I just cannot stay consistent with this damn meal. I usually stay up too damn late (probably from posting on these boards...and a whole lotta sex to add after that) and end up hitting the snooze button like 20x's before getting out of bed. It's a chore not to be late to work every morning. Therefore, I seriously suck for this meal.

BMJ

archive_Ulter

01-12-2006, 09:39 PM

Yes, peel and eat.

therealj

01-12-2006, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by Ulter:

I got that from YOU

haha...Well at least you've learned one thing from me after all these years

BigAndy69

01-12-2006, 11:27 PM

Right now on workout days: (training 5X per week)

Meal 1:

2 eggs + 5 whites scrambled
6-8 slices of Deli turkey (25-30g protein)
Whole grain/rye whatever bread
Sometimes a little cheese goes into this meal

Meal 2:

Chicken Breast
Whey Isolate ~35g + taurine, l-tyrosine
Apple

(sometimes if I'm busy, this ends up being a chicken mcgrill sandwich at Mcdonald's no mayo, mustard instead and a chicken protein platter minus the cheese and bacon or biotest low carb grow)

Meal 3: Post workout

Gatorade + Whey isolate (50 grams)

Meal 4: Usually restaurant or if the girlfriend is cooking,

Salmon, Steak, Chicken, Shrimp, usally a combination + veggies, greek salad..etc

Meal 5: Shrimp with sauce or Biotest low carb grow

I will snack on protein throughout the day as well

archive_way2skinny

01-12-2006, 11:34 PM

Ok here's my bulking regimen.

Typical diet on Monday-Friday.

Meal 1: Trying to avoid carbs after a morning HGH.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Zero carb whey isolate protein powder (29gm) mixed with multi-vitamin powder and water.[/list]

Meal 2: About an hour later.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>An orange, or a banana, or both.
<LI>Sometimes a chocolate chip cookie.[/list]

Meal 3: Lunch at the all you can eat place on campus.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Organic salad with lettuce, pinto beans, garbonzo beans, carrots, celery, cucumber, corn, peas, yogurt, cottage cheese. No salad dressing.
<LI>About one pound of various meats: hamburger patty, turkey, chicken breast, fish fillet, soy burger patty, ham in a pile.
<LI>A scoop of tuna and/or seafood chunks.
<LI>Mountain Dew (I'm addicted to it; get caffeine withdrawal headaches if I don't have it. But I only do one 8oz glass, not a whole bottle.)
<LI>Sometimes I steal one french fry.
<LI>Apple juice.
<LI>Sometimes a cookie but only if I didn't have one earlier.[/list]

Meal 4: Pre and during workout.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Whey protein isolate, multi-vitamin powder, and Gatorade mixed in water.
<LI>Sometimes I drink Muscle Milk instead.
<LI>PureCEE
<LI>On days I do abs I only drink water; other stuff upsets my stomach. [/list]

Meal 5: Post workout, back to the all you can eat place.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Pretty much the same as meal 3 only no soft drinks. Sometimes I'll add a slice of pizza or ice cream.[/list]

Meal 6: A couple hours later.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Peanut butter, either straight from the jar, or with bread, or bread and jelly.[/list]

Meal 7: Just before bed.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Whey protein isolate mixed with skim milk.
<LI>Sometimes ice cream.[/list]

Also throughout the day, every hour on the hour my watch beeps and I drink some water mixed with Urban Biologics protein crystals. I probably get 20 gm protein that way.

My big problem is eating on weekends. Most people cheat on diets during weekends, and I too revert back to my preferred way of eating. But instead of gorging like most people I prefer not to eat.

I don't know why I never learned to like to eat. But for much of my life I ate only one meal a day, lunch, and usually only something like a Subway sandwich. Now I do the same on most weekends. I'm trying to get better, at least eating something for dinner, but often don't. I've made a New Year's resolution many times to eat at least 3 meals a day, every day. But this year like all previous I haven't kept it.

Recently I've also been munching on this huge tub of candied popcorn somebody gave me for Christmas. I don't like popcorn. But at the rate I'm eating it the tub will last many more months so I might as well include it in my diet list.

01-13-2006, 05:06 AM

Here's my regular meal plan:

#1. 10 egg whites/ 4 yolks
cup of oats, raisins, honey

#2. Shake and Natural peanut butter on Whole
Wheat.

3. About 3 chicken breasts
Pasta
a few Apricots

4. Lean beef Patty 10 oz.
Cottage Cheese
Meal Bar (heavy carbs)

5. Recovery drink (100 gm carbs + protein)

6. Fish/ Chicken/ lean beef
Salad and Brown Rice

7. Shake with Flax
Oats 3/4 cup/ skim milk

That's her, varies a bit on weekends as the kids lead me to cheese steaks now and then.

Doggy

archive_HULK1550

01-13-2006, 07:12 AM

BMJ,
i get three solid food meals in. If my one of my meals is a shake and i need carbs ill take the whey protein i use and add about 40g of dextrose and 100g maltodextrin.
H

"Everybody wants to be a body builder but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight"
-Ronnie Coleman

archive_Killer

01-13-2006, 08:09 AM

Mr BMJ - For breakfast try a 1/2 cup oats, 2 scoops chocolate protein, and spoon of all natty PB. Quick and easy. I have it for my 1st AM and 45 - 1 hour before workout. Hit up my cyber-rights, I have a question for you.

My girl makes my food for the week in bulk, but she hates to cook a meal. I once knew this one Mexicana whose mother owned a resteraunt when she was growing up. Man she could cook!

But, this coming Monday I am done trying to gain and will be eaten the same old crap I always eat. At least I will save money from eating out.

archive_45goingon20

01-13-2006, 08:28 AM

Okay Here's mine for bulking right now. I weigh 220 @ 6'-2" BF 15%

Pre work-out. I workout @ 4:30 AM
45 grams whey protein shake
12 Oz bottle of power or gatorade during workout

Meal 1: Post wokout 5:30 AM
25 Grams whey protien shake with 50 grams carbs from Cranberry Juice
6 hard/soft boiled egg whites
1 cup Oatmeal w/2 tablespoons olive oil.
Cup of coffe- splenda/tbls.skim milk

Meal 2: 9:00 am
50 grams Whey shake

Meal 3: 12:00
12 oz. chicken or fish or groundbeef.
Mixed vegetables or large salad

Meal 4: 3:00PM
50 grams Whey shake

Meal 5: 6 to 7:00PM
12 to 16 oz. Salmon, Steak, Chicken, Shrimp, usally a combination green veggies, sweet potato, salad

Meal 6: 9:00 PM
50 grams Whey shake.

I haven't calculated the calories for this yet. Seems a little light for bulking. I may have to throw in that natural peanut butter stuff http://www.anabolicfitness.net/smileys/tounge[1].gif

45

archive_Mr. Nobody

01-13-2006, 09:42 AM

BMJ:

Mr. N: Where the hell is the Chinese food buffet meals?

Its hard to talk business with grease dripping down your mouth, plus, I only look up to catch air....so I do the trough only when I go out to lunch by myself
Salads and sandwiches are from Crispers, our "healthy" alternative to the other redneck luncheons

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Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
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Disclaimer:
Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.

Decaman

01-13-2006, 12:37 PM

Here's mine

#1 Whole wheat wrap with 3 egg whites and either chicken or turkey - hot sauce

#2 Can of pure Pro

#3 Turkey meatloaf with either rice or sweet potatoes and a veggie

#4 Can of pure pro

#5 Grilled chicken with Either brown rice or sweet potatoes and a veggie

#6 POST WORK OUT 50g whey with 1/2 ultra fuel

#7 Small amout of some protein and fat

Deal with reality
or
Reality will deal with you

[This message was edited by Decaman on 01-13-06 at 03:52 PM.]

slobberknocker

01-13-2006, 02:19 PM

here's today

orange juice and tuna
protein bar
gym
orange and protein shake
12 inch whole wheat buffalo chicken sub w/lettuce, tomato, pickles, banana peppers
protein shake
chicken wings and cole slaw
eggs and salad

archive_MR. BMJ

01-13-2006, 07:00 PM

Hulk: Thanks for the reply.

Killer: That oatemal recipe you mentioned, I used that as a staple of my diet for years. It is awesome, but I don't know if I can stomach another bowl. I'm just now getting my desire to eat eggs again. I've always thought of eggs to be a waste of space to eat because you take the time to make something like 10 egg whites with maybe 1-3 yolks, and you still only have barely over 30-35grams of protein. I'm gonna try to add some kind of meat in them like BigAndy and Decaman and see if that helps. I'll need to make the meat ahead of time or it isn't gonna happen though...lol.

BigAndy69, Way2Skinny, Doggy, 45goingon20: Thanks for posting on this thread.

Way2Skinny: "Sometimes I steal one french fry." Oh dear, I read that and laughed my ass off! Boy, you can sure throw down the food for that one meal at school. Talk about taking a najor shit later on.... How do you not fall asleep in class after eating that?

Slobberknocker: Aren't you somewhere around like 300-lbs?

Mr. N: I just do not know what to say. I didn't know you were trying to be all pretty now...lol. http://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Decaman: MEATLOAF!!! That is what I have been missing. I love that stuff. Thanks for posting that. I still see you are drinking them Ultra Fuels...lol, them things taste so good. For breakfast, how do you prepare your chicken and/or turkey?

BMJ

archive_Flash

01-13-2006, 07:34 PM

I have about 16 weeks of school left, and consequently 16 more weeks on the budget diet.

-Pre-Workout: ON Rocky Road and 2tbspn of natty PB or a granola bar
-Post-Workout: Isopure and Ultrafuel
-Breakfast: Oatmeal & ON Rocky Road
-Lunch: Turkey Sandwich on Man Bread(low carb)
-Snack: ON Rocky Road and an aple or granola bar
-Dinner: chicken Salad
-Dessert: ON Rocky Road and 2tbspn of natty PB
~300g protein/200g carbs/65g fat

Its pretty basic, and pretty cheap.

SELF ASSEMBLY REQUIRED

archive_way2skinny

01-14-2006, 02:41 PM

BMJ wrote:

Way2Skinny: "Sometimes I steal one french fry." Oh dear, I read that and laughed my ass off! Boy, you can sure throw down the food for that one meal at school. Talk about taking a najor shit later on.... How do you not fall asleep in class after eating that?

Because I'm not sitting behind a desk listening to some boring lecturer. I'm in the front of the classroom now, dishing out the boring lectures. (Evil grin).

No, seriously, I find that if I keep the lunch time meal mostly protein with low carbs I don't crash in mid-afternoon.

archive_MR. BMJ

01-14-2006, 03:12 PM

Oh...that makes sensehttp://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ...lol.

BMJ

therealj

01-14-2006, 04:01 PM

From an older post of mine, when dieting.......

8am - 4 eggs scrambled with some cheese and hot sauce

11am - 30g of whey in water and some peanuts and maybe an apple

1pm - green salad with chicken and shredded cheese

4pm - 3 hard boiled eggs

5:30pm - apple and maybe a powerade depending on energy levels, 2 thermorexin and apply yohimburn Y.E.S to abs

6:00pm - workout

6:45pm - creatine with 40g dextrose

7:00pm - protein shake with 50g of protein and 40g of carbs

8-9pm - 20 pieces of sushi(mostly salmon/tuna)

10ish pm - some beef jerky

11:30 pm - 30g whey in water

slobberknocker

01-14-2006, 11:44 PM

Mr. BMJ, on my last cycle I was a solid 300-320. Went off cycle for a few months and got down to 275 ish. Now I'm back on and I think I'm in the neighborhood of 285 ish. lol, are you thinking that that's not a lot of food? I'm looking at it and I'm thinking I must have left some things out, lol. I know I ate a lot more than that today.

I don't really track what I eat. I just do this: every two hours, eat as much protein as there is in the vicinity, and have some fruits or veggies w/it. That's about it, lol.

e-double

01-15-2006, 08:54 PM

1tbsp-Green Vibrance
am TRAIN

6-Eggs (free range, fried in butter)
1pc-No Nitrate Bacon (uncured & hormone free too!)
8oz-Orange Juice (fresh squeezed)
1tbsp.-Udo's Choice Oil

1-Apple (try for organic)
1/4cup-Almonds (I buy roasted, but low salt variety from Trader Joes; raw would be better)

1-Chicken Breast (a little salt)
1/3-Yam (microwaved, plain)
4gels-Fish Oil

1tbsp-Green Vibrance

1-Big Chunk-O-Meat (usually 3/4 pound high quality steak)
1-2cups vegtable mix (steamed or stir fried)
1tbsp- Udo's Choice Oil

As well as Sessemax, Gluccorel, Alcar, T-rex, Saw P., ZMA, Valerian, and Melatonin.

I believe in less but ideal macro-nutrients. These days I don't care about getting bigger, just athletic output, feeling good, and health. The only ways I would imporve the above diet, is by improving the quality of meat(grass fed beef and lamb, high quality salmon) and using only organic vegtables, yams, and apples, and probably nixing the OJ for another organic fruit juice, one not citrus based.

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archive_Ulter

01-16-2006, 09:47 AM

That's interesting E-double.

Green Vibrance?

archive_way2skinny

01-16-2006, 10:12 AM

I take something that's similar to Green Vibrance: Life Extension's Herbal Mix.

And I too eat hormone free meats. How ironic.

archive_Ulter

01-16-2006, 12:17 PM

I don't blame you. Who'd want to eat hormones?

01-16-2006, 12:48 PM

http://www.anabolicfitness.net/smileys/lol2[1].gif

archive_LuckyDog

01-16-2006, 04:48 PM

Hey Ulter, How do you make a hormone??

You don't pay her!! hah hah...

Okay, I'm done.

LD

"Only average athletes, those that are far from excellent prepare with average methods. A Champion is not average, but exceptional." ~Vladimir Zatsiorsky

e-double

01-21-2006, 06:37 PM

Dietary Ramblings

I have played with a lot of diets, and I always come back to very simple but nutrient dense food as being ideal, strict Paleo-Diets are a little too strict in my opinion, but are good to learn from.

The Green Vibrance is a whole hell of a lot more green plants than I could ever eat in a day. Sometime ago FS wrote of the effects of Green Kamut as assisting in baseing out his PH after a G---H---B experiment; I took note. After which I heard of Randy Coture's diet geared at less acidity in the body and a more ideal PH.

After my own experimentation, I believe, lowering my systems overall acidity has a profound and noticeable effect from healthier skin, and better anaerobic conditioning, too better feeling joints (This one amazes me!?!?).

My grandma wakes up and eats a mountain, and I mean a MOUNTAIN of raw spinach for breakfast. The power of green foods is seriously underrated. The Green Vibrance seems to cover all bases in the typical greens deficit. (Way2Skinny) I happened to have started with Green Vibrance and was happy with it, I haven't actually tried any other brands.

As Flash had noted on a post regarding a diet of mine, some Gatorade with some Gluccorell would work wonders; heavier more intense lifting, etc. The problem is, at times I feel it necessary to teach my body to exhibit athletic prowess regardless of such modern technology, and as far as I'm concerned isolated corn syrup is modern technology. At times I feel this way regarding protein powder as well. Do you ever notice how your water needs seem to increase in relation to the amount of protein powder or MRP's you consume. As a general maxim if I eat simple and clean their are less needed not only in food volume, but with regard to offsetting the needs of modern-tech food, if you will.

As I stated I don't care about growing more muscle just working with what I have and improving the performance of my form.

Less food really is more, when it is ideal food. Less acidity is better. Simple is better; fewer ingredients, no heavy sauces, etc. Really get to know your individual digestion. If I consume a lot of natural peanut butter I notice a small sinus-nasal reaction its very slight, but enough to take note of... Well that doesn't actually necessitate any further analysis...peanuts are not ideal for me, let me try raw walnuts, even if fresh and not rancid, if we are talking about ideal they still seem a little acidic for my gut, almonds are a vast improvement over both. I've played this game with my system for many many years and know my animal/forms strength and weakness. I can eat a pound of steak and feel energized an hour later, if I ate a big plate of pasta I will be fast asleep an hour later. Training your system to exist and exhibit athletic prowess at a lower blood sugar level makes too much sense to me.

I used to do some strength coaching, and one thing I noticed was all of the wrestlers could push hard and heavy through an hour and fifteen minutesof lifting above and beyond that of many other types of athletes. Anaerobic conditioning of coarse, but without getting to analytic if you train without the cooler of Gatorade on the sideline you train to do without the cooler of Gatorade.

If I had the tenacity I would train my system day in and day out consuming nothing sweeter then a piece of fruit here and there. Ahhhhh... but once you've opened the box of Nerds at the tender age of 8 years old, can you ever really go back?

As I write this I'm drinking some sweet mixed drink and eating a pizza, THANK YOU GLUCCORELL & SESSAPURE, we may know whats good for us, but that sure as hell doesn't mean we always do it.

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archive_MR. BMJ

01-21-2006, 08:30 PM

Thanks for the write-up e-double.

Slobberknocker: Ya, you guessed exactly what I was thinking. I was gonna start putting you in the Mr. N category....big bastards who eat little food...lolhttp://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I know what you mean though, i'm sure everyday is a little different.

CHANGES: I've since changed my meal #2 to meal #1, and put the old meal #1 (eggs) as meal #6. Also, For the place of meal #2, i've added 8-oz of meatoaf with a sweet potato. I'll tell you right now that I will never get tired of eating sweet potatoes ever again. Here's why:

*Splenda's brown sugar mix is the freakin' bomb! I mix a little bit of that with Smart Balance Light butter spread (with Flax). Granted, I can eat a regular sweet potato plain with nothing on it, but this shit has now boosted it up as my favorite food item that I look forward to eating everyday now.

LuckyDog: That was funny! I had to read it 2-3 times before I got it though...lol.

BMJ

archive_ChefWide

01-22-2006, 03:58 PM

Cook and ahead and kill that shit diet a la C. Smoove:

I plot out a different grain combination every week to fit into the following overall macro windows, within a 5% margin either way. I am shooting for less than 200 cals per portion and no more than 35 gms of effective carbs... fat and protein can vary wildly as i can and will adjust the protein item for that menu meal to accomodate.

Right now in the freezer i have 6 different, radically different grain/carb dishes portioned in ziplocks, about 120 portions total at the moment so i dont have any cooking of carb components for a while, which i LOVE!

On calorie restriction at the moment so my macros look like this:

2400-2700kcals
ROUGHLY: 40% protein, 35% carbs, 25% fats

I try and keep my functional carbs below 200/Day, closer to 150 on low days and 200 or a bit higher on high days. Carbs partitioned with Glucorell and calorie disposal brought to you by Sesapure, between 3 and 6 per day.

6 Meals:

Meal 1
1 scoop Muscle Milk, 1 scoop ISO AGB, 1 cup All Bran BranBuds or GoLean Kashi Cereal

Meal 2
4 oz Grilled Turkey Cutlet, Bulgur Wheat and Lentil Pilaf with toasted Pecans and Dried Cranberries, steamed Green Beans

Meal 3
6 oz Grilled Chicken Breast, WheatBerries with Chickpeas, Olives and Feta cheese. Mountain of Italian parsley with EV garlic oil and cider vinegar

Meal 4

One scoop Muscle Milk, One scoop ISO AGB, 30 Grams Maltodextrin, 3 grams AscorbicAcid

Lift

PWO Meal 5

6 oz MEAT! Beef would be my usual love, but lately i have had the hankering for grilled tuna, still cold in the middle, a VERY LOW GLYCEMIC grain dish: Hulled Barley and Steal cut oat cake with raw cashews ginger and garlic, pile of half steamed asparagus or fresh haricots, mountain of wilted spinach on high days

meal 6
One scoop MuscleMilk, 2 Scoops ISO AGB, 1 cup of InnerStrength Cereal or BranBuds with chopped dried apple chips and a tbs of either toasted hulled flax seeds or Pan Roasted Soy Nuts.

Can it be said too much? Glucorell and Sesapure, OF COURSE, Alcar, Altyr, Trex, Levorex, ECGC and Neuro.

Now dont gimme no grief about my PWO Nutrition: it works for me, i dont want the spike, its counter productive for fat loss and there is no imperical evidence thats its really all that effective anyway. The protein uptake window is not an HOUR for gawds sakes, its closer to 24 HOURS! so there is no need to shock the uptake at all, 'slow and steady wins the race.' Aiiight? http://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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Monster

01-22-2006, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Nobody:

Salads and sandwiches are from Crispers, our "healthy" alternative to the other redneck luncheons.

Oh damn... I miss Crispers so much.
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e-double

01-22-2006, 06:31 PM

Nice Chef,

Very well thought out, and I am in agreement on the post CHO spike. I like the quality and diversity of your food selection.

I have considerd adding some wild rice into my program, with my meat and veggies at night. Apparently their is still a very healthy non-gmo rice cultivated and sold by Native Americans (I can't remember from which tribe and state?).

Anyhow I'm sure it would be a far better than the corn I often incorporate into my regimen. About every third day I eat a little more CHO calories, for muscle 'fullness' and performance.

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archive_MR. BMJ

01-22-2006, 06:35 PM

ChefWide: Your line of thinking for post-workout meals is the same as mine. I think the benefits of a insulin spike are negligible on a calorie restricted diet. I too believe that the raise in insulin is counter productive, and instead, I focus on my overall total calories (carbs specifically) over a 24 hour period (or at least while i'm awake). I've seen considerably more positive progress with this approach while dieting than I did when having a postworkout insulin spike. I am able to get leaner quicker and keep less bloat off. I feel a quick digesting protein (or some form of amino acids)is the most important nutrient post workout.

On the contrary, I do 'somewhat' spike my insulin levels while bulking, as I feel it helps with recovery from the pounding I put on myself. However, one could probably take the same low GI approach and get equal effects as long as calories are the same.

Thanks for posting!

Now if we can just get that Iron God guy in here...lolhttp://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BMJ

e-double

01-22-2006, 06:36 PM

Ulter,

I gues I must have a mild allergy to peanuts, if I ate that much peanut butter I'd probably have to walk around with a box of Kleenex and A bottle of Flo-Nase strapped to my hip.
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archive_ChefWide

01-23-2006, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by e-double:

Nice Chef,

Very well thought out, and I am in agreement on the post CHO spike. I like the quality and diversity of your food selection.

I have considerd adding some wild rice into my program, with my meat and veggies at night. Apparently their is still a very healthy non-gmo rice cultivated and sold by Native Americans (I can't remember from which tribe and state?).

Anyhow I'm sure it would be a far better than the corn I often incorporate into my regimen. About every third day I eat a little more CHO calories, for muscle 'fullness' and performance.

True Wild Rice is actually a grass, not a rice... Ojibway harvest the most in Upper Michigan and some gets to the states via canada and the Menomini and Cree Nations. There are a couple of sites online where you can order bulk wild rice and benefit the tribes directly, Native Harvest is one. They pick hella cranberries up there in the marshes too... yum!

SO... in keeping with the Native mode here, cranberries and wild rice and such, here ya go:

Ojibway Pilaf with Cranberries and Pecans
this is for 16 portions, please portion and freeze all that you wont use in a period of three days, m'kay?

The macros for the following recipe look like this per portion:
196 kcal
5 g pro
28 cho (5g fiber)
9 g fat (1g sat)

1 1/3 cup Wild Rice
1 1/3 cup Quinoa
1 cup pecan 'bits', toasted
1 cup dried cranberries
2 bunches scallions, THIN sliced
3/4 cup Flatleaf Parsley, coarse chop
3 tbs EV Olive Oil (i use oil from garlic confit, ask me i'll explain if you want)
3 tbs Green Cider Vinegar, unfiltered if you can find it.
ground malabar pepper...

Method:

this is real easy, crazy easy, really. just read all the way through it, if you dont grasp any part of any recipe i post ASK ME, it makes me feel like big willie. NOTE: when cooking any grain, i cook it in stock, chicken stock, turkey stock, duck stock, beef stock, fish, lobster, vege, mushroom, etc... negligible cals and it gives life that little twang in the cajones that make things greater than the sum of their parts, ya know? ok, that having been said, here goes:

cover the wild rice in a deep sauce pot with about two inches of stock over the depth of the rice, it may take a bit more later, so keep that in your noggin. bring back to a boil and then lower to simmer for about 40 minutes, please dont just let this boil, the rice is delicate like a freshman cheerleader and needs to be coaxed into the love mode or you will burst the 'jackets' off of the rice and it will lose its crunchyness. so, SIMMER the rice. when done, drain the stock, reserve, let the rice cool.

Toast the quinoa in a pot until it starts to to hop and prance like a Kansas City Drag Queen, you will know what i mean when you see it happen... er.. kind of... anyway, i digress. Toast the quinoa, shaking frequently so it doesnt burn then pull off the fire and let cool a bit, shaking. Now WATCH OUT! when adding the stock, this quinoa is hotter than magma right now and will ---- you up if you just douse it with stock, add the stock a little at a time, let it sputter, add more, sputter. lather rince repeat. use the leftover rice stock for this, you will need more to the tune of about two inches depth above grain level. Make sure these are both seasoned well, stock should be slightly less salty than the sea for these both. Once done, about a half hour, maybe 25 minutes, toss in the dry cranberries and let sit for three minutes off the fire, drain, discard stock and let cool.

Next step is tough. Combine all ingredients. You're done. This is better served a tiny bit warm, NOT hot, not cold. For some reason the essential sexiness of wild rice gets lost in the cold, so warm her up just a little before you eat her... er.. yah... you know.

questions? ask the chef. if it's broken, we can fix it, always.

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blu

01-23-2006, 12:09 PM

AM Cardio some mornings

Meal 1: Oats, 1 scoop prot powder, peanut butter in fall/winter, no PB in spr/summ

Meal 2: Fruit and PB in fall/winter, no PB in spr/summ

Meal 3: Salad with chicken or turkey

Meal 4: Fruit

Work Out Day

PWO Meal 5: 1 scoop gatorade, 1 scoop powerade, 2 scoops prot powder

Meal 6: Meat and cheese or veggies

Non Work Out Day

Meal 5: Whatever I have time to make- Tuna in oil over brown rice with Soy sauce, Scrambled eggs, cheese, and chicken or wild game in a wheat wrap; Deer or Elk steak, or broiled chicken with BBQ sauce and raw or cooked veggies, Chicken or wild game enchiladas,

Meal 6: Meat and cheese or veggies

Cheating is generally an evening meal: Add in Chips and salsa, or finish with cereal and PB for dessert, cake and ice cream around birthdays, etc