'Other' Test

[archive_1911]

I've always had an affinity for known, 1st tier mfgrs when it comes to juice (still do). Every Test I've used has either said Organon (Karachi, Nile) or Schering (Testoviron) on the amp and I like it that way. I've read various testimonials, both pro & con, on other stuff and was never willing to try anything else as a result. What's the current consensus on AF regarding some of the 'other' Test I'm seeing out there e.g. QV, GTP, etc.? Are you shooting this stuff and if yes, how does it compare? Again, I'm only asking about Test and I don't care about other products. Regardless of the feedback I'm pretty certain I'll stay with my philosophy but I’m looking to be better informed on my options. Thanks.

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[archive_Caligula]

The only test I've used for quite some time now is converted test prop from synovex. But I guess you could say that that is good quality, you just have tinker with it a bit.

I know of quite a few people who have used QV test and liked it just fine though.

When you think of it though, as long as it's sterile and has what the label says in it...what does it matter? Test is test...as long as that's what's in it and at the proper amounts and sterility then who cares if it says organon, QV, or uncle bobs get swole juice.


"That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger"

Curious

[archive_Mickey]

I am with you 1911 in the fact that I only use human test. I know a lot of people use Mexican stuff but I just dont know why. You can find human grade test for around $5 an amp and thats usually as cheap as the Mexican. Part of the reason I stay with human is I have never heard anyone complain that its dirty, painful or underdosed. I hear a lot of that stuff about certain Mexican products. So again, why take the chance if they are around the same price?

However, I will say that I know a lot of big mofo's that use Mexican stuff and have for years so it must work. Im just anal.

"Come on, get serious!" Arnold in Pumping Iron

Testoviron has always been my favorite.. but I must say i've used some very good U.G. test as well as QV.
Never did a home brew though.

Doggy

[archive_PROSPECT]

Just got two bottles of 250mg/ml 50ml bottles of ethanate from QV.

[archive_Loco]

I've never had the pleasure of using human grade brand name stuff, usually because of money. I have used QV and liked it a lot, but got quite a bit of bacne. I have also tried Supra and found it to be painful, probably because of the alcohol content.

Note: I haven't found inexpensive human grade amps because (1)I prefer domestic and (2)I spent the past four years in college so I didn't have an abundance of money.

[archive_Flash]

Theres nothing wrong wih the reputable UG labs. Ive had good experience w/ supra, and cant tell a difference between that and the upjohn cyp Ive used in the past. Im currently using AP stuff, and besides the high ba/bb, its fantatstic.

[archive_Cyp]

1-10, 10 being best (I would only give a 10 to human grade)

QV 8

Supra 8 (last time used 2 years ago)

Brovel 7

GTP 9 (Dbol recently)

** 4

[Dragon]

I have used many many brands of test, mex, UG, Organon, Karachi, Schering, Upjohn, etc.

But my compounded test form the pharmacy here in the US seems to the best by far. And it is cheap to. No complaints about the others though, they are cheap, , just need more some times. I never had any "dirty" gear.

Though testolent from romania was damn good and cheap as hell.

[archive_1911]

Thanks for the input fellas, appreciated.

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[Decaman]

Qv is good but the cyp seems to cause some acne so if this is a concern for you stick with the enanthate which i prefer anyway to cyp. The newer animal power stuff is is just as good as qv.



Deal with reality
or
Reality will deal with you

[archive_SheepsHead]

i don't get it. i read this over and over year after year. "test "A" gives me acne but test "b" does not"...if they are all basically test,BA/BB, and oil how can one cause more acne than the others. crank up the dosage and they all aggrivate my skin eventually.

oh yeah, in 15 years of everything from human grade to cook your own i've had good and bad results from all. i prefer quality UG right now. for me it comes down to the 3-P's...pain, performance, and purity and some of these labs hit the mark well. they have come along way since **'s bathtub gin.

[archive_Caligula]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The newer animal power stuff is is just as good as qv <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe they are owned by the same people/company. I might be wrong though.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>if they are all basically test,BA/BB, and oil how can one cause more acne than the others. crank up the dosage and they all aggrivate my skin eventually. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've never understood that either.



"That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger"

Curious

[Dragon]

^^ I have thought about that, and I have never comapered then based on those, only the "effectiveness" by comparison.

But it is my belief, and only that, that some of teh "vet' and "UG" tests and such that appear to cause more acne and bloat than others may actually contain other esters or compounds than labled.

[cantgetlayed]

I've been using the QV enth 50ml jugs almost exclusively for quite some time. They've worked well for me. Now I've been off for forever, that means one of those bad boys will blow me up again, yipee.