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Old 02-15-2005, 11:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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just picked up some ilium winny 20 ML bottles and as God is my witness i cant even get it to draw up in a 22 gauge, i have shaken the shit til my arm fell off and you can see all the little crystals in it, what the hell can i do with this shit i have 5 bottles of 20 ML and am using a harpoon, I got the zambons in on a 28 gauge for Christ sake, any advice??
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Old 02-15-2005, 12:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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22 gauge is not that big, not for a drawing needle. I use an 18 to draw and inject with 23....get a bigger pin and use orally...just my opinion.

I have no comment on the company etc. since I do not use them or use winny.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't you normally use a 25gauge at least for winny.Any time I use winny it is with a 25 gauge.
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GD, he is using at least at a 25, in fact, he is using a 22....not sure what you are asking??
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What i'm asking is what i'm saying.
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Old 02-15-2005, 05:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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BONES, explain to me what gauge you are trying to use.When it comes to winny I always use a 25 gauge to draw with and shoot with.
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GD, something is missing here. He used a 28 gauge(very small) on Zambons and is currently using a 22(much larger) on the illium and still cannot get a draw. Obviously, your recommended 25 will not work since that is smaller then a 22 that he already said does not work. I suggested use an 18. GD, does that make sense friend?
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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OK first things first "HE: is a she and is by no means a pussy, but boys 22 is pretty hefty, and I double checked the zambons, were drawn and shot with 25 gauge no problem, when I took the needle off the ilium and opened the bottle and drew it strait into the syringe then reattached the needle, shook it again for the billionth time, stuck it in my arm and pushed so fucking hard the needle almost bent, then tried my ass and hemorrhaged, I now have a small bruise on my arm that looks like I got shot LOL!! could it be the ilium, I am not afraid to go to the 18 gauge but want to make sure the gear is supposed to be this way, can I warm it up first or do something to make it less clumpy? thanks guys
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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BONES,you said it was clumpy if it is I had some problems in the past with winny and suspension.What you could do is keep it refridgerated or add a little water then try drawing it out.Try this at least it won't go to waste.
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Drink it! get the zambons again next time. Dont torture yourself trying to inject it.

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Just to make sure I am not making a horrible recommendation DO NOT USE THE 18 TO INJECT YOUR FRIEND. Just to draw it out, measure it, and administer orally.
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