Concern?

[Machine]

Hey everyone,as you know I took my first shot on the tenth and everything went well,I thought.I felt normal most of the day but near the end I felt like I was dragging a little.I assumed that it was because that I had stayed up late the night before.After my evening work-out my wife and I stopped by pizza hut to pick our son up something to eat when the incident happened.I broke out into a cold sweat and the room started to spin and I thouhgt that I was going to pass out.I had to lay down in a booth just to get my bearings.Keep this in mind though,I normally drink 2 cups of coffee and about 2 to three red bulls through-out the day to keep my going because of my poor sleeping habit.On the 10th I had no caffine and no sugar at all. The only time I had ever felt like that before was when I was having an allergic reaction to an antibiotic a few years back.Do you guys think it was the gear or just lack of caffine and sugar.I took 37.5mg tren and 250mg test in one shot followed by.5mg arimidex. My shot was at 11 am and this happened and around 8 pm or so.By the way,my upper right quad is extremely sore like someone has frogged the hell out of me. Look forward to your responses.

[This message was edited by Machine on 02-11-05 at 09:40 AM.]

[Jake]

Well, I have done some searching, made some calls to the C.D.C., and my best guess is that you may be turning into what is know as a...
C.H.U.D. (Carnivorous Humanoid Underground Dweller) Soon you will not be able to resist climbing down a man hole or scurrying down a storm drain to be with the others. This has been going on in urban areas since the 1980's and the government and some diligent reporters have not been able to keep them at bay. One man can save you if you are in fact becomeing a chud- he is the Duke of Parmistan- but first you must win the Game to make the healing request. Just so you know the game includes making it through a town of criminally insane Parmistanians! I went there once for the government when I retired from gymnastics and took up Karate- If my friend Jack Burton wasn't there at the town gates with the PorkChop Express I don't know what the hell would've happened! I hope you get to feeling better man and I'll bump this to help keep it in view of helpfull eyes!
Talk to you tomorrow. -Jake

[Monster]

Its a classic case of AASOS.
Anabolic Androgenic Steroid Overreaction Syndrome!

It strikes people who say that steroids are safe, but in their hearts they arent convinced... it then causes them to overreact to everything that happens to them when "on" and attribute it to the AAS they are using.

Lol, Im not flaming you, but you answered your own question:
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I normally drink 2 cups of coffee and about 2 to three red bulls through-out the day to keep my going because of my poor sleeping habit
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I had no caffine and no sigar at all
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In all likelyhood, the shot you took wasnt even active till at least the next day or later (depending on what it was), and if it was an allergic reaction you would have had localized swelling and problems at the injection site (swelling, not just a lump or soreness).

Youll be fine... you just caught a case of AASOS

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"Will it not be felt that Virtue, however beautiful, becomes the worst of all attitudes when it is found too feeble to contend with Vice..."

[bigboy]

you guys should write an acronym handbook!

[Machine]

I can always look forward to the great responses that you always have monster.

[archive_Ulter]

You're fine.

[Monster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Machine:
I can always look forward to the great responses that you always have monster.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Youre far from the first person to experiance AASOS in one form or another, and you wont be the last! Its part of paying your AAS dues...

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"Will it not be felt that Virtue, however beautiful, becomes the worst of all attitudes when it is found too feeble to contend with Vice..."

[Decaman]

If you sprout an extra cock on your forehead i would be concerned other than that your just overeacting. Kinda like my doctor everytime i get a headache or a wart or a backache all he can say is that it's the steeeeroids get off the steeeroids.



Deal with reality
or
Reality will deal with you

[archive_Bjaarki]

Your "reaction" occured very early, in relation to the time of your injection. I suppose it's possible that the sweating, at least, was in part due to the test hitting your bloodstream. (I forget whether your injection was a fast- or slow-acting ester). In any case, that could have been a real "symptom" (and a pretty common one), and then the room spinning and disorientation was a hysterical reaction to your inability to accurately attribute the sweating/flushing reaction - kind of like a "panic attack" develops. You don't know what's going on, you feel a little out of control, and then the whole thing falls apart. Believe me, panic attacks occur in the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a highly suggestible individual, easily hypnotizable, and with a family history of panic or other somatoform illnesses .....

..... All of which is just a long-winded way of saying AASOS.

Get used to the injection pain. That's part of paying your dues, too. Some sticks will be smooth and others rough. Looks like you caught a rough one your first time out.

It could (and will) be worse, especially as you run through all your scar-free injection sites. In order to find some new unmarked territory on my old carcass, I did two pec shots this week. Now that's f*ckin' scarey! It felt like that scene out of Pulp Fiction. But ... you do what you have to do.

Bjaarki

First, say to yourself what you would become.
Then, do what you have to do.

[Machine]

Well,today will be my third shot.I'm doing the tren daily as recommended.Yesterday my shot went smooth with no worries what so ever.On the other hand,my right quad(where my first shot was)is still at a serious pain level.One at where I can't almost walk on it.My left quad(2nd shot) is just tender like any other shot I've had before.There is slight swelling on the right quad.The test in the blood came to mind when doing some research and seeing other post having some of the same reastions on other boards.Could it be possible that I hit a nerve or injected too close to one?

[lunchbox01]

You guys are hilarious

The more you do it the more things you will encounter. Some injections will be painful some sites will get sore, and some will not do anything at all.

The first time I injected my quad got so sore that I could have swore it was getting
infected, but nothing happened. The second time I injected I drew back and filled the dart with blood. It is just part of starting out and learning as you go.

Quad injections were always painful for me so I switched to my glutes. I thought how am I going to do a glute shot on myself, but it is possible. The thing with that is my side would cramp up if I stayed twisted too long. Me standing there waiting for a cramp to go away with a dart sticking out of my glute, what a site. The good thing is no injection site soreness when I use my glutes.

[archive_Ulter]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Machine:
Could it be possible that I hit a nerve or injected too close to one?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes. I just did it yesterday and I have a nice lump there. They go away.

[Machine]

Not to drag this thread too much,but heres the situation.Discard the dizzy,sweating feeling of my post earlier.My only question is about the pain.I've done 6 injects so far(tren every day) and the only ones that seem to bother me are the ones that include test.I'm not talking minor aches and pains here but for example:My 1st was tren 37.5mg with 250mg test mixed in the right quad and made where I could hardly walk for about 4 days.Was Leaning toward the nerve thing when 3 days later same shot in left glute same results(real tight,painful to touch,hell it even woke me up in the middle of the night when I rolled over.)I've done alot of running back in the day,so could it be that its stretching that bad to put that amount of oil in my lower body? The tren shots are fine with absolute zero feeling even right after.What do you guys think?

[archive_Loco]

What brand of test is it? Supra seems to give me some pretty serious pain.

This past cycle I did an experiment where I shot my 1cc of tren in the left quad and the 1cc (300mg cyp) of test in the right one. The right one became very swollen about 3 days after the injection. Mixing the two reduced the pain, but I found the best result was to divide the 1cc over two injections; so 1/2 a cc twice a week.

Note: I was running a low dose of test to combat the fina sides.

[Machine]

Test Enanthate from Golden Triangle.The pain doesn't start right away,about 6 hours later but by the next day its full boar.Wednesday is another test/tren shot,so I might do some experimenting to see what happens.

[archive_Caligula]

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Could it be possible that I hit a nerve or injected too close to one?
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Yes. I just did it yesterday and I have a nice lump there. They go away. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Happened to me two weeks ago. I my quad hurt so bad I could barely walk for 2 weeks. I had to make up a lie to family and co-workers why I was limping.



"That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger"

Curious

[The Thing]

Machine - I feel your pain.

My last cycle was Golden Triangle cyp and for 4 to 5 days after my test injection I was half man / half babboon. One normal ass cheek and one huge red swollen painful cheek. It was so bad that I dropped the cyp and pulled out my backup home-made prop to finish off the cycle.

The Thing

	ASS Nelson Montana

[archive_Loco]

Seems like some of the UG's need to do something about their products regarding pain.

That's one of the major problems I have with this game: making up lies to people because you can't walk from painful injections. There are all kinds of ancillaries to take for side effects, but what do you do when your bodyparts are swelling immensely? Might be time to switch to Eurogear.

[archive_HULK1550]

First off, all of you guys, need to make sure you bake everything before you inject it. It cant hurt and in many cases helps. Ive baked some really painful gear before and it helps a lot. Secondly, maybe quads are not the right shot for you machine. I know they arent for me. I do everything but quads because they just hurt to fukin much. Ill do glutes, tris (lat and long heads), bis, chest , delts, rear delts, lats. But i will never do quads. they cripple me.

"Everybody wants to be a body builder but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight"
-Ronnie Coleman

	ASS Nelson Montana

[archive_Bjaarki]

I have to disagree with you about baking your gear, Hulk. What exactly do you think is happening to a vial of gear baked at 250 degrees that would reduce it's tendency to irritate? Baking off some of the BA? Not likely. Impossible unless the vial is vented with an 18g, and unlikely even then. No BA is going to boil off under the conditions you bake your gear.

Here's another Bjaarki Blanket Statement that will get me called to the Principal's office: This baking your gear thing is an old urban myth that applies not to painful gear but only to gear that contains bacterial infiltrates. Baking will kill the germs. But if your gear is sterile, baking won't do jack.

Machine, you're going to have to get used to your body's preferences in regard to the pain thing, man. It's part of the deal. Caligula (I think) once described a post-injection pain in his glute as like being "drop-kicked by God." About a year and a-half ago I did a tri shot in a nice soft place way-around toward the back of my right arm that literally dropped me to my knees and took my breath away. The Mother of All Injection Pain. We've all limped around for days - I once limped around for a week and a-half - after a painful quad shot. Like I say, it's part of the deal.

Bjaarki

First, say to yourself what you would become.
Then, do what you have to do.