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Old 12-08-2004, 08:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What gains/strength did you experience on this kind of a cycle for 10wks lets say or whatever. How much strength did you increase on it in time being, like a example on bench press or shoulder press. Whatever. Thanks
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey bro, there are so many factors that figure into the equation it is impossible to provide you some accurate data other then "good strength". Tell us a little about yourself, your routine, diet, past AS experience and goals. Based on that we can help you formulate a cycle that willl meet your expectation.
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Old 12-08-2004, 10:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I just wanted some answers some people experienced with past cycles of these kind of aas. I have 2 under my belt consisting of 25mg ed dbol for 6wks with test cypo of 400mg/week for 10 weeks. My 2nd was sust 500wk and deca 400wk for 10 weeks. Now I am going to do prop, tren and winny. I just wanted to know some strength gains people made on there exersises.
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I really depends on how much tren, how much test, and how much winny. Tren and test prop is my favorite cycle so far. Excellent strength gains and very noticable body fat comp changes.



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Old 12-08-2004, 11:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok, Im going to do. 75mg tren eod, 100mg prop eod, winny 50mg ed for 6 weeks starting week 5 ending week 10.
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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So what were your strength gains then on some exersises you noticed?
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I did pretty close to that and my strength increased about 20% in 6 weeks but I had done a lot of cycles previously.
The results of this cycle will vary greatly from person to person. The biggest factor, I think, is how many cycles you've done and how far past your genetic limit you are already. Some people would lose strength on that cycle because they already use more than that weekly. Others with little or no experience with AS may go up as much as 30-40% in 6 weeks.
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Old 12-08-2004, 12:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My tren and test experience was beyond what my joints and tendons could handle. I was stronger everyday and then things started breaking down. I would think you gain very well with that. Eat and sleep.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's a beautiful cycle, now all you have to do is play with the amounts to find out what works for you.
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Old 12-17-2004, 06:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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You'll need to shoot ED, though. Trenbolone acetate has a very short half-life, and is best ED. It ain't for pussies.

If I were you, I would ditch the prop and use suspension instead. Oil-based, if you can find it, so you can load the tren and test together and do one stick daily.

Also, ditch the winny. Who the f*ck needs winny when you're running test base and tren, the most anabolic compound in the world?

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Old 12-17-2004, 07:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Im going to jump in here just because i feel like arguing with bj. LOL. Tren makes me hard but i personally dont gain much strength off it at all. Winny on the other hand makes me strong every single time. the limiting strength factor for me with winny has only ever been my joints.

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Old 12-21-2004, 04:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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To increase collagen synthesis, you should add an Equipose, Primobolan, or Durabolin. They all tend to increase collagen synthesis and tendon strength.

Testosterone can cause joint pain from the severe reduction in cortisol. Winstrol increases collagen synthesis but decreases overall tendon integrity.


Prop/NPP/Tren or NPP/Tren/Dbol

Don't be shy with the Nandrolone, nothing is as usefull for athletic conditioning IMO. Some people sensitive to progesterone should not combine NPP with tren, but for me it did not present a problem, switch it to Eq/Primo if you want to avoid the possible complication.
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