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Old 08-31-2004, 12:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Complete Inhibition...

Starting actually giving a sh1t about my health so went to the doc to get blood test/lipid profile etc...

this is what i was just told:
-complete inhibition of natural test production
(including pituitary gland, LH etc)
-elevated liver values
-low, low good cholesterol

Reccomendation was to wean myself off any substances and to begin healthy eating. Those who know my posts know my diet is usually keto

supp's right now - d-bol a.m. 10mg
nolv 10mg morning/night
proviron 25mg morning/night
winstrol 50mg morning/night
Clen - 120mcg
Ketotifen night time
Proprecia 1mg/day

Anyone have any reccomendations other than the docs?

Main concern is I love the drive and ambition I get from increased test be it exogenous or endogenous...

Maybe go to another doc and get HRT w/ the low T level blood test?

Any and all advice most greatfully appreciated,
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Old 08-31-2004, 07:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd bet the 100mg of winny a day is responsible for the cholesterol problems.

Start hitting the EFA's and do a search for 'cholesterol'. Fonz and Ulter had some good info with regaurds to improving your chol profile, and wether its even a problem.

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Old 08-31-2004, 08:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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-complete inhibition of natural test production
(including pituitary gland, LH etc)
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This isnt a problem. Its obviously going to occur during exogenous administration...

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-elevated liver values
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This may not even be accurate. Heavy training can cause liver value tests to show up as "high". High from a GP's standpoint can be a night and day difference from a specialists idea of what high is.

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-low, low good cholesterol
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Well, thats probably something to work for you to work on.

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Reccomendation was to wean myself off any substances and to begin healthy eating.
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Of course. When a doctor knows youre "using" anything they dont actually understand then that will be their suggestion. He probably has no clue whats going on so he wants to eliminate the only variable.

Im not saying to blow off what you were told, but you may want to seek a doctor more versed in HRT or at the least an endocrinologist.

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Old 09-01-2004, 05:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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What is your question? If you are at a stage in live, where HRT makes sense and you dont want to come off, then do HRT, if you are young and want to father children some day, then look into proper PCT. This is your decision to make, yours alone

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Mr.Nobody/Monster/Flash,

Thanks for the informative replies - the kind of productive feedback I was looking for.

I understand your point abuot the liver values but I suppose any 17-aa's will do that - maybe some Tyler Liver Detox is in order...

On the decision though (Mr.Nobody's question) - I do want to have kids, and I do want to have elevated test - be it my own or supplemented because my career sets on fire whenever my test is elevated - be it dealing with people, making assertive decisions in meetings or just a general overall ethos of control I feel - placebo or not...

But here's the catch-22. I want kids. I like my hair. I'm only 22...

Maybe i should just donate some sperm away and go on HRT after that

As always, any and all input appreciated,
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Old 09-03-2004, 05:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I would recomend you follow the PC consensus. Then try to stay clean for a month, and see how you feel. After that month I'll bet you have a different opinion of the necessity of HRT than you do now.

If not, you can always start back up. The HRT option will always be there.

At 22 theres not really a reason to believe that your endocrine system has thrown in the towel. The reason your completely inhbited, as you know, is because your on. I'll bet that after a proper PCT you'll be buzzing around just fine.

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