Painless test???? really seems funny.

Jonny Organon · 08-30-2004, 08:38 PM

First off I am the biggest wimp when it comes to injection sorness. I'm fanatical about clean conditions and procedure as well. They just always hurt. Prop puts me in a wheel chair literally.

Anyways I started some ICN test enanthate amps this monday and so far I've used three with no pain at all. I mean I couldn't even tell I injected the next day.

Another thing is that I mixed 1ml of 100mg propionate with each 1ml 250mg enanthate shot. Whats weird is that even with the prop in there the mix of them caused absolutly no pain at all. The prop which I have used alone before left me limping for days. I don't understand.

1ml 100mg prop = death to all limbs
1ml 250mg ICN enant = painless
2ml 100mg prop/250mg enant = painless

Are the ICN enathate amps that good. I remember old posts about virome prop being painless. I don't want to think about it but what are the odds of this product containing just oil??? Is painless test possible????

On another note I've always used QV enanthate.

archive_Iron God · 08-30-2004, 09:22 PM

The problem with prop is the amount of benzyl alcohol in it. Since most brands use BA as a solvent and to use to keep the mixture sterile htey tend to overdue do it. Hence the ouch factor. Anything over 5% ba will cause pain in most people

If you use a brand with a low BA and more benzyl benzoate content it won't hurt at all.

Painless test is very possible.

macdaddy · 08-30-2004, 09:42 PM

Right now I'm on 400 mg of enanthate mixed with 100 mg of prop a week. Man it really hurts for days afterward. When I get a shot of 400 mg of cyp I barely feel it at all and there is little/no soreness from the cyp, the prop leaves me limping.

Jonny Organon · 08-31-2004, 01:31 PM

I'm in heaven

archive_HULK1550 · 08-31-2004, 02:34 PM

the only test i have ever gotten pain from was supra 425 when i did it straight without anything else. i havent done suspension yet though
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Monster · 08-31-2004, 03:38 PM

Its seems to me that the human grade brands are less prone to sting than the vet/UG stuff. Probably because the Vet/UG people are trying to stretch a buck (by using more BA which is cheaper than BB), while the human grade people are getting top dollar for it from legitimate pharmacies and such...

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08-30-2004, 08:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jonny Organon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 605 Rep Power: 6264	Painless test???? really seems funny. First off I am the biggest wimp when it comes to injection sorness. I'm fanatical about clean conditions and procedure as well. They just always hurt. Prop puts me in a wheel chair literally. Anyways I started some ICN test enanthate amps this monday and so far I've used three with no pain at all. I mean I couldn't even tell I injected the next day. Another thing is that I mixed 1ml of 100mg propionate with each 1ml 250mg enanthate shot. Whats weird is that even with the prop in there the mix of them caused absolutly no pain at all. The prop which I have used alone before left me limping for days. I don't understand. 1ml 100mg prop = death to all limbs 1ml 250mg ICN enant = painless 2ml 100mg prop/250mg enant = painless Are the ICN enathate amps that good. I remember old posts about virome prop being painless. I don't want to think about it but what are the odds of this product containing just oil??? Is painless test possible???? On another note I've always used QV enanthate.

08-31-2004, 03:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Monster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 5,637 Rep Power: 11921	Its seems to me that the human grade brands are less prone to sting than the vet/UG stuff. Probably because the Vet/UG people are trying to stretch a buck (by using more BA which is cheaper than BB), while the human grade people are getting top dollar for it from legitimate pharmacies and such... ------------------------- "I was told that I could listen to the radio at a reasonable volume." "Trying is the first step towards failure." "Well, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is... never try." __________________ ------------------------- &quot;I would NEVER call a retarded person a retard. Retard is what you call your friends when theyre acting retarded.&quot; - Michael Scott &quot;I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.&quot; -- Robert Dawkins

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08-30-2004, 09:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
archive_Iron God Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,291 Rep Power: 7256	The problem with prop is the amount of benzyl alcohol in it. Since most brands use BA as a solvent and to use to keep the mixture sterile htey tend to overdue do it. Hence the ouch factor. Anything over 5% ba will cause pain in most people If you use a brand with a low BA and more benzyl benzoate content it won't hurt at all. Painless test is very possible.

08-30-2004, 09:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
macdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 222 Rep Power: 4129	Right now I'm on 400 mg of enanthate mixed with 100 mg of prop a week. Man it really hurts for days afterward. When I get a shot of 400 mg of cyp I barely feel it at all and there is little/no soreness from the cyp, the prop leaves me limping.

08-31-2004, 01:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jonny Organon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 605 Rep Power: 6264	I'm in heaven