The Better Test? Enathate or Cypionate

[archive_Cyp]

This is more of a poll. I have only done cyp a few times, and have always been under the impression that Enant is a better choice, which I have never had any problems with. Any way gents let me know what you THINK

CYP or ENANT ?

[GymRatNYC]

Whichever I can get my hands on cheaper. Test is test is test...

Enanthate and cypionate esters are very similar in molecular weight, so the difference one would feel from them is so minor I doubt a soul could tell the difference.

[archive_xtinct]

I like cyp better. I have more problems like redness and irritation at the injection site with enanthate.

[Mister B.]

They're THE SAME, just slightly different half-lifes.

I alternate them.

B

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"Um... I checked around. The girls are calling you "fatty-fat fat fat", and Nelson's planning to pull down your pants, but ... nobody's trying to kill ya." "

-- Milhouse

[archive_Cyp]

Thats what I figure, I always like to combine prop, to give the slow acting test a kick start

[Decaman]

Cyp would be slightly stronger in my opinion and i personally don't like it. More water retention is one of the main things I noticed.



Deal with reality
or
Reality will deal with you

[Rich]

In the end test is test; no diffence in the action of the actual steroid molecule. just base it on price and availability.

[archive_Bjaarki]

Your handle kinda makes you stuck with the cyp, doesn't it, bro? Imagine a guy called "Cyp" who only shoots enanthate.

I generally agree that there is no difference between long-acting esters, but I'm not so sure, anymore, about the short-acting ones. I'm using a prop/phenylprop/suspension blend right now that I SWEAR is the most potent test I've ever used. And I'm pretty skeptical about things and am much more likely than other guys to attribute things to placebo effects. But this ain't them. I honestly cannot tell the diff between 500mg/wk of combined prop/phenylprop/suspension and 500mg/wk EACH of cyp and tren. It is just that good.

Is there something about phenylproprionic acid that potentiates the testosterone molecule?

Bjaarki

... Then, do what you have to do.

[archive_HULK1550]

not to hijack this thread but ive noticed the same thing with nandrolone phenylprop and nandrolone deconate.

"Everybody wants to be a body builder but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight"
-Ronnie Coleman

	ASS Nelson Montana

[archive_Iron God]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Is there something about phenylproprionic acid that potentiates the testosterone molecule?

Bjaarki

... Then, do what you have to do. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its fast acting So you get that hormone "surge". Plus you gettting it in a decent dosage

[archive_Bjaarki]

I don't know that that explains it, IronGod. Yes, you get a great pump and you feel the "surge" you're talking about, but there's an abiding hardness in-between EOD doses with this phenylprop blend that feels just like tren and that people notice. It's even better than tren, because it doesn't seem to elicit the muscle spasms that tren causes. Just ask your brother. We were talking about this yesterday.

Hulk says he's noticed the same thing in re nan decanoate vs. nan phenylprop? Interesting .....

IG, you've been reviewing all your college chemistry knowledge for your little science experiments. Is there any reason to think that phenylpropionic acid has, when mated to a test or nan molecule, the capacity to confer more effectiveness? I've used prop, another short-chain ester, plenty of times without special result, but then, as I think about it, tren acetate is a very short chain, and it surely kicks ass in the hardness department.

<<< Hmmmmmm ..... What would a tren acetate / test phenylprop stack be like? >>>

By the way, Iron God, my spies tell me that you are the miscreant who has been fucking around with my tagline. You've taken me from the poetry of Epictetus ("First, say to yourself what you would become ...") to "Grizzled Old Man" and now to "Juiced up hippie doing spider curls." I would imagine that "Enamored of UnderArmour" is next, right?

Fucker. But not to worry. I have my secret agents in the AF organization, and one of them has agreed to change and lock your tagline from "Moderator" to "Secretly wears pink panties." You've been immune so far from people jacking up your tagline, so consider this a lesson in empathic development.

Bjaarki

	ASS Nelson Montana

[Decaman]

Iron god using his powers innapropriately. Send me an email B we will fix his ass lol!



Deal with reality
or
Reality will deal with you

	ASS Nelson Montana

[archive_Bjaarki]

Nah, it's cool, Decaman. When your powers are as awesome as IronGod's, some of them are bound to be used inappropriately. And he didn't start the business with my tagline, anyway. A certain Puckish youth in a land to the north of us did, when he named me "Jiminy Cricket" when I was off gear for nearly a year and everyone thought I'd Seen the Lord or something. He owes me for that one, and I've just called it in .....

[Richard Gear]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bjaarki:
I don't know that that explains it, IronGod. Yes, you get a great pump and you feel the "surge" you're talking about, but there's an abiding hardness in-between EOD doses with this phenylprop blend that feels just like tren and that people notice. It's even better than tren, because it doesn't seem to elicit the muscle spasms that tren causes. Just ask your brother. We were talking about this yesterday.

Bjaarki<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats why I didn't want to part with it before I left for Poland, Bjaarki I agree 100% it kicks like a mule, even at the p@#$y doses you do. But seriously Bjaarki I think pics should be a order because this is the leanest and most muscular I have ever seen you.

"The More You Sweat In Training, The Less You Bleed In Battle"

[archive_Bjaarki]

LMFAO!!! Look up the thread a few posts to IronGod's last post. Heh heh. That should teach you to push me around, you fuck!


Thanks for the props, Richard. Yeah I'm lean, but I'm not as muscular as I was last winter. You saw that on Monday with deads, and will again today with squats. I like the lean-and-hungry look and my wife really likes it too, but I don't want to be photographed in this condition.

Not when your brother says "The only I people I know who weigh less than 225lbs are girls."

I've posted pics on my 50th birthday, and on my 52nd. I'll be 53 in a few weeks, but will probably wait for my 54th to post another set.

Bjaarki

... Then, do what you have to do.

[archive_Mr. Nobody]

Iron God's "Secretly wears pink panties" subtitle is a very disturbing thought indeed. It has the potential to overide any pro-sexual effect of testosterone, even at >1g per week dosages. I urge IG to remain in the closet and revise his signature.
Members, join me with this petition.
Thank you

PS: B, I like your new title.

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[archive_Mr. Nobody]

Forgot my obligatory thread contribution:
Enanthate or cypionate......whatever is cheaper

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[archive_the truth]

If you handle the powders, you can see that there is a noticeable difference between cyp and enanthate. Enanthate is waxy and gooey at room temp, while cyp remains crystalline at room temp (makes it much easier to work with while compounding, but also seems to disprove the notion that the two esters have closely similar half-lives).

I've always preferred cyp, but even when I compound cyp, I like to add prop in with it (usually 100 mg cyp, 50 mg prop to the mL).

[Pharm Animal]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bjaarki:
Your handle kinda makes you stuck with the cyp, doesn't it, bro? Imagine a guy called "Cyp" who only shoots enanthate.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I guess by that rationale, I have my bases covered!