hey guys i want to cycle clenbuterol

[Mbubba]

Hey, im 5'11 245 pounds. Im not Fat, but i do contain fat in my stomach area(beer gut) lookalike. My under arms are flbby since i got injured over a year ago i can finnaly start working out. I cannot take anabolic's due to thier long halflife and i do get tested for them frequenlty 1-2 months.

I have decided to use Clenbuterol 2 week on 2 week off cycle.

I only want to use suppllements no winny's d-bols, etc because i get tested.

is there anything that has a half life very short just like Clenbuterol that i can use on the OFF period. Thanks alot!

[archive_HULK1550]

Can i ask what you are doing that you get tested every 1-2 months? If you do get tested every month then i would stay away from just about everything. Its just not worth it, but we have some high level athletes on this board who have gone on (smartly) and been just fine. I dont recall off hand what the half life of clen is, but i cant imagine being tested for that anyway. and depending on how you get tested and what exactly they test for you may have some options but i know that if i was getting tested every month, (specifically for steroids) i would stay away from them. I dont know how much clen alone will do for you, obviously you have to have you diet and exercise regimen in check most importantly.
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[Mbubba]

i dont get testetes lets say every 1-2 months but i do get tested. For Steroids/Drugs/Etc.
Half life of Clenbuterol i believe is 3-5 ddays.
I have been told taking Clen for 2 weeks on, and takinf Caffiene for the 2 weeks off will help me from crashing. Any inputs?

[Decaman]

Forget about clenbuterol, not worth the hassle. Go with thermorexin and or liporexin. Clenbuterol is average at best and will cause some uncomfortable side effects if not for the whole 2 weeks on at least a portion of it for some.



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[This message was edited by Decaman on 04-14-04 at 10:16 PM.]

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[archive_Ulter]

Use Thermorexin on your off days. You may also want to use it on the days you use clen but use much less just for some energy. Clen can make you tired.
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[Mbubba]

thanks again...

so i should use clen for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
and during my off weeks use Thermorexin?

During my on week how much Thermorexin should i intake?
Thanks guys!

[This message was edited by Ulter on 04-14-04 at 06:03 PM.]

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[archive_Cyp]

Sounds like you maybe an athelete, NCAA? Anyway clen is not worth it, stick with the rest of the guys are saying.

Oh, dont post questions asking where in the US you can get Clen, this is NOT what this board is about. You can not get clen with out a prescription.

[Mbubba]

Your right Syp i am an athlete. The other guys are saying thermorexin and or liporexin. You suggest them more? I hear more poeple see better results with Clen tho, and sorry about posting the Where to get clen! Thanks guys!

	Thermorexin Thermorexin creates a complete thermogenic, anorectic and lipolytic environment to allow for optimal fat burning. What this means is that it increases your metabolism, helps manage your appetite and increases the use of stored fats for energy.

[archive_HULK1550]

As i understand it, clen is an asthma medicine that isnt even approved for use in the us. It sounds like i thought wrong though?
Anyways, if you are an athlete clen aint gonna do dick for you. Like ulter said, it makes most people tired, shaky and tired, that wont do shit for you in sports. Some people have a hard time working out on it cause they are so shaky, plus if you are active in sports clen will wear you out more quickly and dehydrate you since it makes you sweat your ass off, and thats when you are just sitting around, you definately dont want to be on it while you training for sports.

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[archive_Ulter]

Thermorexin is very individual so no one can say for sure how much you can tollerate. These guys are right you don't need clen. I thought you had it already. It's not worth chasing down an illegal source for it in your situation.
www.thermorexin.com has a lot of information you can read.

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[Monster]

People still look for clen because of the persistant myth about it preserving lean muscle (the supposed anabolic effect the old gear books used to tout). Ive never seen anything that backed that and it really makes no sense in any event.

I just gave CG all the clen I had because he wanted to give it a shot... i dont think its at all what its cracked up to be...

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Monster, I believe the anabolic affect of clen is proven, but not in humans, it is used quite successfully in cows and horses. Different breed, different result. I grew up in an area where state fairs were the big deal, and you could tell which animals were juicing. Of course now its tested for in the winners.

As an asthmatic, I have used clen, its one of the few things you can take for asthma thats not catabolic. Its not the best thing for either asthma or fat loss.

I know a lot of the guys here recommend t-rex, I have not ever been big on it because I do a keto diet when cutting and t-rex is better on a non-carb depleted diet. So if you are going low-carb, that might not be the best choice, I still use good old ephedrine, when on the low carbs.

[archive_Ulter]

The reason is that we don't have the beta 3 receptors that animals do.

Won't they be testing for ephedrine now?

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[Dragon]

Clen IMO, is about as effective as ephedrine. I only use it to keep a simulant tolerance down, and it is just a nice change from other stimulants.

But I feel one week on 1 off works best.

[archive_therealj]

Clen sucks, I haven't touched that crap since 2000. A good fatburner like thermorexin and some will power are all you need

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[archive_MR. BMJ]

The one thing I will add from my own experience is that the first time you use Clen, it will work wonders. For some reason, and I can't explain it, after its initial use, it never works with the same positive effects. Not saying that it hasn't worked for me after the initial use, just that it doesn't seem to be as effective.

Anybody else notice this??? I have seen others write the same thing on this.

I'd pick ephedrine any day of the week over Clen.

I like to take as much as I can handle w/ clen, and just take it everyday, gradually upping the dosage until I am done dieting, or until I feel it isn't working for me anymore. At this point, i'll usually switch to Ephedrine.

Saying that, I wouldn't mess around w/ it in your condition unless you are confident in how to dope it for testing. No sense risking your career.

I just seen Lyle McDonald state that caffeine/taurine can give you the same physical self-being as ephedrine...Hopefully that is what he stated. It was posted on CEM, although not in much detail.

I don't have no experience with thermorexin so I can't comment on that.

BMJ

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