RG: 2008 Progression to VICTORY

[RichGenetics]

Thought I'd bring this back....

I decided to go ahead and throw up a couple of pics to get started so people would actually know where I'm at and where I'm headed. For starters, these pics are me yesterday and natural. I've been 'off' since the end of December and my upcoming cycle is in the next few days. I'm training for a contest the end of August, so hopefully with the goals I've set, I can make it happen. I'll post my cycle/diet below, but for now, here are the beginning shots. The legs are coming tomorrow.

2/8/2008

Height: 5'10" (and hopefully this won't change....haha)
Weight: 195lbs
Bodyfat: ? (9-9.5%)

[RichGenetics]

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Here's some info from another thread on my diet, goals, and upcoming cycle info:

I've compiled some information from our wonderful contributor MR. BMJ, and I've used my normal diet to combine into a good diet for a bulking stage in my life. Right now I'm at 5'10", 195lbs, currently "off" cycle, my bodyfat is sub 9% and dropping, and I am looking to gain to around 218-220 if possible. I want to stay sub 9% throughout this diet and I think with my genetics it's very possible. I haven't counted macro's yet, but will on fitday.com soon. I need to do that ASAP.

Here's a look at what I've compiled and please make suggestions and changes if you think something would work better for my goals. This diet below is for Training Days Only:

Wake 6am

Preworkout: - 10g EAA, 38g Waxy Maize with Crystal light

PWO

76g Waxy Maize
10g BCAA
1-2g Taurine
1g Vit-C
3 PureCEE
Mixed all together with Crystal light (thanks BMJ )

Meal 1 @ 8:15am

50g True Protein Cold Filt Iso
10g BCAA
1g Taurine

Meal 2 @ 10:00am

8oz - sirloin steak
1cup - couscous
1cup - raw brocolli or more

Meal 3 @ 12:30pm

50g True Protein Cold Filt Iso
1cup Oatmeal, Quaker, 1minute (mixed with shake and drank)
1-2oz mixed nuts (pine, almonds, peanuts, all unsalted)


Meal 4 @ 3:00pm

8oz chicken
1 bag Success brown rice or lentils
1 granny smith apple

Meal 5 @ 5:00pm

50g True Protein Cold Filt Iso
1cup Oatmeal, Quaker 1 minute (mixed with shake and drank)
2 tbsp organic peanut butter
1-2oz mixed nuts (pine, peanut, & almond)

Meal 6 @ 8:00pm

8oz fish OR turkey
1 lg sweet potato
1 cup raw brocolli or more

B4 Bed @ 10:30pm

50g Casein shake

NON-Training Days I will supplement this for when I awake, but keep meals 1-6 as they are:
10 boiled egg whites, 3 yolks
1 large wheat bagel or some sort of good breakfast carb


Ok, some may say that I'm using way too many meals for shakes. I understand this to be correct and a fact, but my job requires me to be on the run sometimes and this can be a problem with having to eat too many prepared meals. I prepare meals 1-2 times a week, and this isn't a problem, but the eating 3 solid meals at my job wouldn't fly well. Even though I'm part owner, it still wouldn't fly. I try to take around 20 minutes to eat each whole meal. I drink 6 liters of H2O per day. I only have 1 12oz diet coke each day.

My supplements are as follows:

Thermorexin 1x day
Cardio Breeze 1x day
Alcar caps 3x day
Neurogenex 2x day, twice
PureCEE in the AM
Sesapure at every meal
Glucorell at every meal
Vit - C
Taurine
BCAA
EAA
AIFM every night
Oxytocin (:P)
Beta Alanine
B5 @ 10g/ED
Fish Oil caps 6x/ED
Saw Palmetto
Ginger Root
Zinc
Cranberry Extract
Magnesium
Potassium
Tylers Liver detox
Milk Thistle
Grape Seed Extract
Acidophilus


Cycle coming up Feb 9th:

Wk 1-11: Enanthate @ 750mg/week
Wk 12-13: Test Prop @ 100mg eod
Wk 1-8: Tren Acetate @ 50mg/ED
Wk 1-8: Dbol @ 30-40mg/ED
Wk 1-14: Proviron @ 50mg/ED
Wk 2-5: IGF-1 LR3 @ 60mcg/ED (site inject after workout)
Wk 10-13: IGF-1 LR3 @ 60mcg/ED (site inject after workout)
POSSIBLY: 4iu HGH/ED Mon-Fri, off Sat-Sun...I'm pondering this

I'll be using finisteride for hairloss, and will see if it helps or hurts before making the decision to keep running it or cease use.

I'll be using dostinex @ .5mg/E 4-5 days, depending on the need.

I'll have nolva on hand and adex in case of gyno or bloat.

Doing 250iu of HCG throughout cycle every 3 days.


The bottom line is this: My goals are not going to be easy, nor simple, but I think I can make it happen if I put my mind to it and stay diciplined. I must gain as much weight in LBM as possible, and I will adjust my diet with carbs according to how my body starts reacting during the weeks ahead. Tweaking will probably occur and I'll probably drop a carb meal or 2 during non-training days, but we'll just have to see how it works out.

A picture says a thousand words, so the only one I have right now is the one on my wifes avatar, and that's current and off cycle. My abs weren't flexed and I was just standing natural, so I'm going to post some more pics this weekend when I have some time.

If I have the TIME, I may possibly post a progression post or something, I don't know. I don't want to start something that I can't finish, but if it's just a week by week transformation post I could probably make that happen. I'll need to be critiqued on which bodyparts are lagging.

I'm going to do this. Make no mistakes, the light heavyweight division will be mine. I'm going into this confident but with knowledge and dicipline, and I'm not letting anything get in my way. My blood work was back ALL normal, every single part of it besides the minor liver enzymes which were so slight they were probably caused by training, etc.

I'm ready. Come on.

[RichGenetics]

2/9/08

Leg shots

I haven't trained my legs but 2 times since Christmas, so give me a break on the dis-proportioned right to left leg. I just noticed it in the photo as I was downloading it. I'll be working on correcting this problem. I was pretty irritated about it to say the least.

Calves are fine, but I need ham work and quad depth. All in due time.

[RichGenetics]

Just started yesterday the Dbol & enanthate. Waiting to start the Tren until the middle of the week as I'm still waiting for my dostinex & proviron. Don't want to chance any prog gyno, and starting the Tren a little late won't matter anyways.

Chest and Tris today and they are SORE. Diet started today. Man this diet is going to take a couple days to get used to. I'm freaking stuffed. :Rawk:

[*Bunny*]

Looking good! You def have some big calves :)

Best wishes on your comp prep.

I drank shakes all the way up to the night before my last two shows :)

I :heart: my shakes ... I sometimes have 3-4 a day.

Then again I eat 6-8 x a day :)

[RichGenetics]

I'm going to say the calves were given to me by the grace of God, I just do basics and they grow like a weed.

I'm doing full body measurements tonight on each bodypart so I'll be able to keep up with my progress. I may post it here.

Yeah, I love my shakes too, but 3-4 a day can get wild.

The good thing about my diet is this: in the oatmeal, and couscous meals, I drink them both so I don't have to eat them.

[bluetwistedsteel]

Lookin good bro - back looks awsome!

We're very similar in frame and size - I may have a bit more thickness up top but I'd trade that for your calves any day. lol. Good luck with your comp in August! What weight are you hoping to come in at?

I'm 5'9 and 209 - 211 depending on the time of day and I'm hoping to compete in the masters division in July at about 188ish. I won't be the biggest but I'm hoping to be pretty diced. You should do really well. Great frame, well thought out diet, good density, good wheels. Keep posting your progress so we can see where you're at as you near your show.

[Mols]

hmm i have nothing helpful to say except niiice butt! (and chest, and back, and legs) :heart:

[Mrs Croft]

pics look fantastic :grin: can't wait to see you in contest mode :banana:

[RichGenetics]

Lookin good bro - back looks awsome!

We're very similar in frame and size - I may have a bit more thickness up top but I'd trade that for your calves any day. lol. Good luck with your comp in August! What weight are you hoping to come in at?

I'm 5'9 and 209 - 211 depending on the time of day and I'm hoping to compete in the masters division in July at about 188ish. I won't be the biggest but I'm hoping to be pretty diced. You should do really well. Great frame, well thought out diet, good density, good wheels. Keep posting your progress so we can see where you're at as you near your show.

Yeah, you for sure have some more thickness up top, and looking good man. I'm sitting at 196 today, and you've got about 13 pounds on me. The weight I'm hoping to come in at will be around 192-195 if I'm lucky. I will need to gain up to 220 for that to happen, so I'm just going to see how things turn out from this cycle & diet.

I could be coming in around where you're going to be at in the 188-190 range even, but I'll be for sure sliced and diced up too.

[RichGenetics]

Mols & Mrs. Croft, I love you both. :)

[*Bunny*]

I'm going to say the calves were given to me by the grace of God, I just do basics and they grow like a weed.

I'm doing full body measurements tonight on each bodypart so I'll be able to keep up with my progress. I may post it here.

Yeah, I love my shakes too, but 3-4 a day can get wild.

The good thing about my diet is this: in the oatmeal, and couscous meals, I drink them both so I don't have to eat them. i am not allowed those when cutting for a show... abdominal distention like a mofo... (i.e minor allergy) :)

it's like this
(1)AM Preworkout or during w/o shake
(2)AM PWO shake
(3)real food
(4)real food
(5)real food
(6)PM work (when I do AM/PM) PWO shake
(7)real food
(8)Possible Shake (before bed if I still want some casein mixed with ANPB to taste like choc PB icing, I just mix it with a little water and eat it like that , so if that is considered shake so be it :))

[RichGenetics]

Well, when I start cutting for the show I'll see how they fair in my diet. Right now, so far so good.

I like your precontest layout though. I don't know if I could eat 3 solid meals in a row, but I'm gonna have to come this summer.

I only plan on dieting for 9-10 weeks max too, so I hope it won't be too bad.

[warmpain]

I wish I could have legs like that, good work my man.

[Bluebird]

Great pics! Good luck with your contest prep.

[Mickey]

Looking good, Rich! Good luck with everything!

[Sarge]

sick bro, Great work!

[RichGenetics]

Much appreciation for all the postive comments everyone. That's the kind of stuff I'm going to need! :)

Hopefully after a week of this new diet, I'll have everything down pat and I won't be struggling too much to swallow all the food. It's the rice/couscous that just kills me when I have to eat that much of it.

I think this afternoon (30 minutes) for my meal I'm going to drink my couscous this time around and see how easy it is.

BTW....True Protein has great supps. Got them in last night, BUT, they sure do need to add more flavoring/sweetner to their protein blends. Both my casein and the cold fil iso were just not sweetened enough.

I'm gonna have to dump about 2 cups of splenda in my casein tonight....lol.

[Sarge]

it usually takes me a week or two of increased eating for me to really get my hunger back, you'll be there in no time.

Have you ever tried SF Syrups? I've gotten them in strange places like Marshalls near the home goods isles. Raspberry flavor, vanilla bean, ect. Just pour it into shakes and you're good to go.

[RichGenetics]

Didn't get to sleep until late last night because I had to cook 6 pounds of chicken, turkey, & steak. That will last me a whopping 3 days. For $35 bucks every three days, I may have to start buying my meat at Costco instead of the more pricier places. That would be $350 a month for meat alone. I can afford it, but damn that's kind of crazy.

I feel pretty good today, just a little tired. Not as hungry today because I'm "off" and won't return training until tomorrow.

The food stuffing is tough, but I'm getting used to it. Takes time.

Hydrolyzed Casein is my taste problem. Gotta re-order some calcium casein instead....that tastes much better for a before bed shake.

[booey]

Costco for sure bro!!!!

[RichGenetics]

I need to find out where the nearest one is located.

I'll be happy to drive 15 minutes to save a little money. Then I can just buy all the meat for 1 week at 1 time and cook it all at the same time and be done with it.

[RichGenetics]

I'm feeling a ban coming my way from Stone Cold over at Ology....

:lol:

[Mols]

Mols & Mrs. Croft, I love you both. :)

:love:

[RichGenetics]

2/14/08

I'll be posting weekly pictures every Sunday throughout this bulking cycle to show progression.

Today I feel good. Had a leg workout that was killer. I'm still trying to get used to this new diet. It's brutal for some reason. Some meals are easy, and some are just plain hard to get down. The solid meals are the only ones that are difficult. The others are easy, even the shakes with the oatmeal. I could drink anything. Maybe I should process up my chicken/steak/turkey and drink that too.....lol.

Todays weight is 197.2. I'm starting to get the abs back. Pics are coming on every Sunday.

More to come....

Tonights cheat night. Going to eat sushi and possibly have a martini (just one).

[dubdubs]

WOW SO NICE, oooops I know you have a nice lady there, but couldn't contain myself. I am a BIG sucker for UA boxer briefs. SEXY. You have a very nice physique., chest, back, calves, hiney... oh yes you are a nice package. Can't wait for every sunday to log in here :woot:. and I must say this you have very nice soft looking skin.

[booey]

How many cheat meals per week are you giving yourself? I find the weekends to be the most difficult!

[RichGenetics]

WOW SO NICE, oooops I know you have a nice lady there, but couldn't contain myself. I am a BIG sucker for UA boxer briefs. SEXY. You have a very nice physique., chest, back, calves, hiney... oh yes you are a nice package. Can't wait for every sunday to log in here :woot:. and I must say this you have very nice soft looking skin.

I love you. :bear:

[RichGenetics]

How many cheat meals per week are you giving yourself? I find the weekends to be the most difficult!

Probably going to cheat once a week unless I can't stand it and I'll then go to 2 times, but never more than that.

I'd actually like to have a cheat "day" but I'm not so sure that would work or not.

I guess sushi tonight will be a cheat meal, so I'm pretty much screwed for the weekend cheat.

I'm working saturday so that should help....

[dubdubs]

I love you. :bear:

oooops just I thought it was sunday already, darn!

;)

[RichGenetics]

Just 2 more days for you WW. :)

2/15/08

Started Tren Acetate @ 50mg/ED last night along with Proviron @ 50mg/ED, & cabaser @ .5mg E3D. The easiest shot I've ever done. 27g 1/2" in the quad and it went in smooth as a knife to hot butter. Yum.

Todays training was nice. Veins are starting to pop out, and I'm getting a lot fuller in most all bodyparts. The dbol is slightly kicking in as I can tell already and I can't imagine the results that are to come from the test/tren/proviron. I honestly think the diet that I'm on is where my biggest change has come from this week. I'm starting to believe and have more faith that 220 won't be that hard to get to. At least....right now that is.....

Todays weight: 197.8

More to come. Pics on Sunday.

[RichGenetics]

FYI, I didn't have sushi last night. Personal issues came about, and we ended up at Cracker Barrell at 10:00. I had a 8oz sirloin with bacon, eggs, biscuits and grits.

Not that bad of a cheat.

Tonight, though, I'm going to eat a gourmet cheat meal that's going to require around 3-4 glucorell and 3 sesapure before it happens....:dinner:

[dubdubs]

2 more days.. oh the torture :o its worse than waiting for a guy to call :o lol

oh BTW, steak, eggs, biscuit YUM.. sounds so good. the bacon although I LOVE bacon would give me heartburn and never had them grits.

Nice meal!

[RichGenetics]

Oh you can make it two more...lol.

Yeah steak, eggs, biscuits are NICE. Grits are great, just have more of them down south then up north.

[Dragon Wolf]

Looking good!!!

[RichGenetics]

2/16/08

Today I'm working unfortunatly, but I'm excited about moving forward.

I started tren 2 days ago, and last night was very weird when I was sleeping. My wife said I snored almost all night and I never snore. What's up with that? I also remember that I tossed and turned a lot and couldn't get comfortable but still managed to sleep well. I had weird dreams. Is this normal for tren sides? No night sweats yet, but I'm only on day 3 at 50mg/ED.

I've been using the Nizoral 1% on my back and shoulders and just about all my bumps have dissapeared. I'm excited about that and hope this keeps up even while using the tren.

Still having issues with trying to get the whole food meals down. It sucks eating steak and rice at 10am.

Gotta start doing deadlifts next week. There any particular day you guys would recommend that I incorporate them into my training? I was thinking about doing them on Leg day because I get a day of rest the next day.

Thoughts? :deadlift:

[T-Cake]

2/16/08

Gotta start doing deadlifts next week. There any particular day you guys would recommend that I incorporate them into my training? I was thinking about doing them on Leg day because I get a day of rest the next day.

Thoughts? :deadlift:
I think it's safe rationale seeing that you need to give your CNS some rest time. You said your last leg day was a killer, so based on that, I'd be hesitant to add in DLs too that day... if anything, maybe at the beginning of the workout, lots of warm-up sets. :dunno:

[RichGenetics]

Yeah, I got to thinking about that and it makes sense. I don't really care what day of training that I do them, but I think they will be beneficial to me with some added growth throughout the next 12 weeks.

I just wonder what's a safe day to incorporate them into?

Next weeks schedule:

Mon - Chest/Back
Tues - Legs
Wed - OFF
Thur - Bic/Tri
Fri - Traps/Shoulders

I train calves on leg day, and abs all 4.

I could probably work them into the Thursday workout.

[RichGenetics]

Here's my competition that won the Lt Heavy division last year, and the overall in the show.

I think I've got a good shot to come in and win now if my gains keep up and I can achieve my goals.

[MR. BMJ]

Awesome job bro, sorry I haven't been up with this. Been busy as heck, and my home pc modem cuts on/off...driving me nuts!

You are gonna do very well this summer.

BMJ
:bmj:

[IliekFude]

Congrats on bein straight-diesel and successful at what you do.
Rock on mang.

[RichGenetics]

You guys are awesome. Thanks BMJ & ILKfude.

Tonight was a cheat night and did I ever cheat. Are you ready:

Started off with a nice salad, with red onion vinegarette dressing and cranberries with pecans and feta. Then I moved on to the large portion of medium rare lamb chops, and a side of garlic mashed potatoes.

Dessert was the following sampler: chocolate lava cake, cream brulee, blueberry cheesecake, peach cobbler, and pistachio icecream. ALL homemade. Had a cup of coffee and a shot of baileys to end the night (not to mention the martini and red wine I had).

Yes, I'm now at 200lbs tonight after I got out of the shower. I feel like a fattty.

[dubdubs]

CHEATER AND FATTY, lol. How could you post a meal like that? woe is me. Although I would've replaced the lamb chops with some filet mignon and the choc java/creme brulee sounds good! I am also a big tini fan, mango to say the least.

oh and BTW, my little tiny 2 cents, but hit your traps hard on back day. You can get plenty of action with your deads and rowing. I rarely do any trap exerices these days because they can get pretty huge, like my quads they grow like weeds and I was blessed with them.

BTW, I had to come back in here again and repost. For some reason the post I made only 15 or minutes ago, well where did it go? I swear I submitted, it lol

Must be the desert that blinded me.. :)

[RichGenetics]

2/17/08

It's pic time. I'm not too thrilled with my upper body because I'm holding WAAAYYYYY too much water right now. I think it's the carbs, but who knows. I've added .25mg/ED of Adex to limit the bloat.

It's been a week or so since I posted the last pics, so this is a slow progress. Feel free to critique. I need major work.

[T-Cake]

You guys are awesome. Thanks BMJ & ILKfude.

Tonight was a cheat night and did I ever cheat. Are you ready:

Started off with a nice salad, with red onion vinegarette dressing and cranberries with pecans and feta. Then I moved on to the large portion of medium rare lamb chops, and a side of garlic mashed potatoes.

Dessert was the following sampler: chocolate lava cake, cream brulee, blueberry cheesecake, peach cobbler, and pistachio icecream. ALL homemade. Had a cup of coffee and a shot of baileys to end the night (not to mention the martini and red wine I had).

Yes, I'm now at 200lbs tonight after I got out of the shower. I feel like a fattty.
You make me feel so proud! *tear of happiness* Atta boy! :flowers:

You're gorgeous; your contest this year is going to be killer, and I like people that EAT (because then I don't feel so piggly wiggly myself :lol:)

[RichGenetics]

Thanks T-cake!!! Yes, I definitely like to enjoy some great cheat food when I can. This diet will wear you out and I'm only a week into it so far. It's growing on me lets just say that.

Ran out of fuel for the grill so my house smells like a japanese sushi bar from all the steak and chicken I grilled.

I'm starving right now for some reason.............

[T-Cake]

Thanks T-cake!!! Yes, I definitely like to enjoy some great cheat food when I can. This diet will wear you out and I'm only a week into it so far. It's growing on me lets just say that.

Ran out of fuel for the grill so my house smells like a japanese sushi bar from all the steak and chicken I grilled.

I'm starving right now for some reason.............
That's it, I'm comin' to your place!!!

Steak AND shrimp? OMG... I haven't had a good steak in forever. Shoot, I haven't eaten red meat in... lord knows how long. I'm JEALOUS!

I'm hungry too but it's bedtime :(

[dubdubs]

FINALLY, what took you so long? you know I have been impatiently waiting for days :wallbash:

Wow, that food is doing that body SO GOOD.

You look awesome :heart: and I love the carpet. Hardwood floors are a biatch on my feet.

Keep up the great work, when is your show?

OK, now I am so motivated to go get my cardio done, what a nice surprise to wake up to.

[RichGenetics]

LOL, you are so funny. Yeah, I'm feeling a little FAT though, but gaining well. I can't stand carpet, YUCK. It will work for now until I'm ready with my next house.

2/18/08

Today was tiring because I didn't get to sleep until 11:30 last night from the PITA from my grill gas going out. I had to cook everything inside and the house smells terrible. Oh well, it will go away.

Did chest & triceps today, couldn't do back as I'd planned. There was just not enough energy.

Weight today: 200.8lbs.

So far so good.

[Mols]

LOL, you are so funny. Yeah, I'm feeling a little FAT though, but gaining well. I can't stand carpet, YUCK. It will work for now until I'm ready with my next house.

2/18/08

Today was tiring because I didn't get to sleep until 11:30 last night from the PITA from my grill gas going out. I had to cook everything inside and the house smells terrible. Oh well, it will go away.

Did chest & triceps today, couldn't do back as I'd planned. There was just not enough energy.

Weight today: 200.8lbs.

So far so good.

You girl. :nono:

[RichGenetics]

You girl. :nono:

Don't you start with me missy. :P

No sleep for me = a tiring day.

I'm worn out right now......food is coming.....yippy.

[Mols]

Don't you start with me missy. :P

No sleep for me = a tiring day.

I'm worn out right now......food is coming.....yippy.

i slept in til 830 and im exhausted, i swear the more sleep i get the worse i feel. Drinkin coffee and then off to the gym for some squatagge. And I just got done cooking my chicken on the grill that HAS gas. :) BUT it comes with a price, its like 4 degrees outside. Me: flip quick and haul butt back inside. Drink coffee, quick run back outside, flip, and haul butt back...rinse and repeat :clap:

[RichGenetics]

Must be nice to be off today. I think it's been about 12 years since I've been off on a Pres day.

Yeah, you are a baby too whining about not enough sleep....boo hoo....LOL.

I'd love that 4deg weather. It's about 60 out right now and NICE!

I'm going to get more gas tonight, thanks!!! :wiggle:

Now go haul butt and do those squats

[Mols]

done and felt wonderful!

[RichGenetics]

2/19/08

I'm starting to feel like I'm falling apart.

I have no energy, no appetite, and eating just makes me sick to my stomach. My workouts are not as intense this week either.

Today was the worst training session I've had in a while. I did legs/calves, and by the time it was over I was in the bathroom puking my guts out. :puke:

I don't feel sick, but it's probably the orange juice that I drank twice in the middle of the night (IDIOT!!!!).

I must have just poisoned myself with too much sugar or something. But still, that's just today. I felt like total azz yesterday too.

I'm starting to wonder if it's the tren, cabaser, or what that's making me lethargic, tired, and have no appetite.

I'm sorry for bitching, but this just isn't the normal RG. I caught myself this morning at the gym staring into space, and I had to snap out of it and get back to reality. :rant:

UGH.

[Mols]

Im telling you, OJ anytime will make me wanna hurl. Total Gut-rot remember? :grin: Hang in there, I dont know about the stuff you take, but dont give up. Keep up the :dinner:, even though it SUCKS

[RichGenetics]

yeah, you're right, it was for sure the OJ. The tren is making me have wild dreams and I get up in the night and walk around the house and then don't remember what I did while I was up. I don't know, the dreams are weird too.

I do remember Gut-Rot, northern hick :asshole:

I'm hanging, but I'm manipulating my diet because there was ZERO chance I would have been able to eat my 10am meal, so I swapped the protein/oatmeal instead and will do it that way today.

I have ZERO appetite.

[Mols]

yeah, you're right, it was for sure the OJ. The tren is making me have wild dreams and I get up in the night and walk around the house and then don't remember what I did while I was up. I don't know, the dreams are weird too.

I do remember Gut-Rot, northern hick :asshole:

I'm hanging, but I'm manipulating my diet because there was ZERO chance I would have been able to eat my 10am meal, so I swapped the protein/oatmeal instead and will do it that way today.

I have ZERO appetite.

:ban: You sound like Joe Dirt, so there!

[RichGenetics]

:love:

Sounds like love is in the air.

[IliekFude]

LOL, you are so funny. Yeah, I'm feeling a little FAT though, but gaining well. I can't stand carpet, YUCK. It will work for now until I'm ready with my next house.

2/18/08

Today was tiring because I didn't get to sleep until 11:30 last night from the PITA from my grill gas going out. I had to cook everything inside and the house smells terrible. Oh well, it will go away.

Did chest & triceps today, couldn't do back as I'd planned. There was just not enough energy.

Weight today: 200.8lbs.

So far so good.
lookin jakt for 200lbs my man. keep it up.
can we get some specifics on the workouts in the future? weight/movements? i just like to see what peops r doin.

[Mols]

:love:

Sounds like love is in the air.

:topic:

[RichGenetics]

lookin jakt for 200lbs my man. keep it up.
can we get some specifics on the workouts in the future? weight/movements? i just like to see what peops r doin.

Thanks man, I'm just trying to get over this nauseous feeling and ZERO appetite. I hope this goes away soon. Plus my lower back was MURDER today again.

I'll post the workouts tomorrow. Nothing special for sure, but I'll at least let everyone know what I'm doing.

[RichGenetics]

:topic:

:boobs:

[Mols]

:boobs:

:asshole:

[RichGenetics]

:asshole:

You know you love me Mols. :hitit:

[*Bunny*]

You look great RG.

Your contest pics are phenom.

My only critique is the legs. Need to bring them up a bit to counter the upper no?

[RichGenetics]

You look great RG.

Your contest pics are phenom.

My only critique is the legs. Need to bring them up a bit to counter the upper no?

Thanks bunny! Coming from you that means a lot :)

Those contest pics aren't me....that's my competition that won the light heavy division in 2007 and my competition for this upcoming contest. Just wanted everyone to see what I was up against.

And yeah, I need to bring my quads/hams up for sure. The calves are for sure fine, as they're already larger than my biceps. My calves will get to 19" easy.

Hopefully my quads will get to 26-28".

[*Bunny*]

Thanks bunny! Coming from you that means a lot :)

Those contest pics aren't me....that's my competition that won the light heavy division in 2007 and my competition for this upcoming contest. Just wanted everyone to see what I was up against.

And yeah, I need to bring my quads/hams up for sure. The calves are for sure fine, as they're already larger than my biceps. My calves will get to 19" easy.

Hopefully my quads will get to 26-28". Well I apologize for misreading that! :)
Id be lying if I said this is going to be cake, you do have your work cut out for you but I absolutely feel you CAN get it done.

You have a great physique. I cannot wait to see your progress. How many weeks out again?

[RichGenetics]

So you think the guys gonna be hard to beat eh? I'll make sure I beat him :)

Yeah, I've got a long time. Contest is the end of August.

I'm bulking for another 12 weeks, doing a short pct, and then starting pre-contest diet for 9 weeks prior to the show.

I may do 10-11 weeks of cutting/pre-contest diet, I just don't know yet.

[Mols]

You know you love me Mols. :hitit:

:sleep:

[RichGenetics]

:sleep:

:rose:

[Mols]

:rose:

You and your GAMES.

[dubdubs]

did I miss any pics? just checking :naughty:

btw, I think your quads are pretty nice, they look a little like mine in a more manly sorta fashion!

[IliekFude]

Thanks man, I'm just trying to get over this nauseous feeling and ZERO appetite. I hope this goes away soon. Plus my lower back was MURDER today again.

I'll post the workouts tomorrow. Nothing special for sure, but I'll at least let everyone know what I'm doing.

sounds good :biggthumpup:

[*Bunny*]

So you think the guys gonna be hard to beat eh? I'll make sure I beat him :)

Yeah, I've got a long time. Contest is the end of August.

I'm bulking for another 12 weeks, doing a short pct, and then starting pre-contest diet for 9 weeks prior to the show.

I may do 10-11 weeks of cutting/pre-contest diet, I just don't know yet.
I think he will be good competition, hard to beat? Nah, not sure Id ever say that.

You have plenty of time to whoop @$$. I may leave a little more than 9 weeks to cut though, play it by ear around 12-14 weeks out for sure.

Be sure to keep me updated. I can't wait to see you with your trophy.

Carry on. :)

[RichGenetics]

I believe that I have some type of bug, virus, flu, something.

There's no other explanation for the way my body ache is feeling. I have taken care of the lower back pains, but man this distorted feeling of not being normal makes me figure that I've caught something. Tis the season for everyone to get sick I guess.

And not wanting to eat can only be that I've got something. There's no way my appetite would be this bad if I didn't have something.

I can barely get up in the morning for the past 2 days. STRUGGGLIN.....

[Mols]

parasites. your INFECTED! Yick!! Hope you feel better and kicks that bug's ass! :lol:

[RichGenetics]

parasites. your INFECTED! Yick!! Hope you feel better and kicks that bug's ass! :lol:

Hmm....did you give me something Mols? :booty:

Nah, actually I'm starting to feel better since this afternoon.

I hope the appetite comes back soon.

[*Bunny*]

I believe that I have some type of bug, virus, flu, something.

There's no other explanation for the way my body ache is feeling. I have taken care of the lower back pains, but man this distorted feeling of not being normal makes me figure that I've caught something. Tis the season for everyone to get sick I guess.

And not wanting to eat can only be that I've got something. There's no way my appetite would be this bad if I didn't have something.

I can barely get up in the morning for the past 2 days. STRUGGGLIN.....
Its EVERYWHERE, coast to coast, no joke.

do you have fevers??

[RichGenetics]

No fever. Just had these symptoms:

Lower back pain (from the dbol)
Lethargy & loss of appetite (from the tren)

Nauseous & feeling of just no energy (from the sickness/virus/etc)

I'm not bloated anymore since taking potassium in excess.

I am SLOWLY getting my appetite back this afternoon, and I'm starting to feel better.

I just wonder if it was a 48hr type bug that hit me the same time my dbol/tren problem happened.

It was just hell.

[*Bunny*]

No fever. Just had these symptoms:

Lower back pain (from the dbol)
Lethargy & loss of appetite (from the tren)

Nauseous & feeling of just no energy (from the sickness/virus/etc)

I'm not bloated anymore since taking potassium in excess.

I am SLOWLY getting my appetite back this afternoon, and I'm starting to feel better.

I just wonder if it was a 48hr type bug that hit me the same time my dbol/tren problem happened.

It was just hell.
Im going on 5 weeks of whatever this is... I also have your appetite, thanks a lot :bash:

[Mols]

How does potassium de-bloat you? I mean scientifically speaking? That'd be great if it worked for me!

[BiggT]

You're looking properly jacked, man

[IliekFude]

could be overtrained man.

[*Bunny*]

How does potassium de-bloat you? I mean scientifically speaking? That'd be great if it worked for me! It counteracts with the sodium in your cells. It also regulates water balance.

Good reading for you
Potassium supplements | health benefits, deficiency symptoms, dietary sources, side effects (http://www.vitamins-supplements.org/dietary-minerals/potassium.php)

I take 2 caps with (about every meal).

[RichGenetics]

Im going on 5 weeks of whatever this is... I also have your appetite, thanks a lot :bash:

Yeah, well I think I have a bug to go along with all the other BS symptoms I have.

What a week of hell.

[RichGenetics]

You're looking properly jacked, man

Thanks dude. Feeling properly nauseous today lol.

[RichGenetics]

It counteracts with the sodium in your cells. It also regulates water balance.

Good reading for you
Potassium supplements | health benefits, deficiency symptoms, dietary sources, side effects (http://www.vitamins-supplements.org/dietary-minerals/potassium.php)

I take 2 caps with (about every meal).

Very good indeed.

One thing to take note of though is most people will be taking Potassium Gluconate. The Gluconate takes up most of the total mgs, so for instance, taking 500mg of Potassium gluconate only gives you a total of around 99mg of pure potassium.

I'm trying to figure out where I can get pure potassium from, but to no avail yet.

I'm taking 24 99mg pot gluc tabs per day right now which would equal somewhere around under 500mg of pure potassium if my math serves me right.

Plus, eating a banana will net you over 400mg.

[*Bunny*]

RG - where can one get that necklace you're pimpin' the first post?

Stay focused, can't you smell success yet? See that trophy?

[HULK1550]

dude, you have to work your ass off if you wanna look better than that guy. Any reason you are getting ready for a show and you werent training legs?

one thing to remember you have to lose a lot of overall size to be in the same condition that guy in the picture is.

stay focused and determined bro.

[RichGenetics]

dude, you have to work your ass off if you wanna look better than that guy. Any reason you are getting ready for a show and you werent training legs?

one thing to remember you have to lose a lot of overall size to be in the same condition that guy in the picture is.

stay focused and determined bro.

I doubt I'll have to work my ass off to beat him. I'll have to work hard, but I can beat him. I just started back hitting legs hard this past month. I don't think they're size is an issue. Maybe now, yes, but give me some time and they'll fill out. My calves are already almost 18" around just sitting here.

You're right, I agree I'll have to lose a lot of overall size to be in the same condition. I'm working on getting up to 220. That's the goal.

If I find that when I get there that I'm not ready, then I won't do the show. It's not that big of a deal, I just really want to do it.

[RichGenetics]

His calves suck compared to mine already. That is a given.

His quads are great conditioned, and I have no doubt mine will look better when cut down to size.

His upper body is very good, chest, abs, back are good, but he's lacking total arm thickness which I think I'll have another edge on him.

I am confident. Heck, I'm only in week 2 of my cycle, so I have some time to see if I can back up my goals.

:werd:

Now if I can just shake this sickness I'll be good to go.

[Mols]

Keep on keepin on buddy!

[RichGenetics]

RG - where can one get that necklace you're pimpin' the first post?

Stay focused, can't you smell success yet? See that trophy?

I bought it a year ago down in Destin. Can't remember the boutique.

Honestly right now, I need to get well before I can start smelling success again...haha. This week has been HELL on wheels for me. Everywhere I am, I feel terrible.

I'm dropping the tren (DEMON).

[*Bunny*]

I bought it a year ago down in Destin. Can't remember the boutique.

Honestly right now, I need to get well before I can start smelling success again...haha. This week has been HELL on wheels for me. Everywhere I am, I feel terrible.

I'm dropping the tren (DEMON). are you still training while you're feeling like this?

That's why I asked about a fever = break from training, but you dont have one.

When was your last break?

[RichGenetics]

are you still training while you're feeling like this?

That's why I asked about a fever = break from training, but you dont have one.

When was your last break?

Skipped Wed & Thursday. Started back today and did back/biceps. Threw up in the parking lot. I think now because of the potassium maybe?

No fever, just very ill feeling. I can move around fine, just very weak and CANNOT eat solid foods. I could probably eat some cheat foods with no problem, but I ate steak/couscous earlier at 10am, and most of it got thrown up around 12:30 or so.

I'm going to try and drink a protein/oatmeal shake and that way I'll at least get something down.

I've already drank 3 1/2 liters of water today.

I wonder if I'm drinking too much water too?

I'm a mess. I am a freaking mess....

[*Bunny*]

Skipped Wed & Thursday. Started back today and did back/biceps. Threw up in the parking lot. I think now because of the potassium maybe?

No fever, just very ill feeling. I can move around fine, just very weak and CANNOT eat solid foods. I could probably eat some cheat foods with no problem, but I ate steak/couscous earlier at 10am, and most of it got thrown up around 12:30 or so.

I'm going to try and drink a protein/oatmeal shake and that way I'll at least get something down.

I've already drank 3 1/2 liters of water today.

I wonder if I'm drinking too much water too?

I'm a mess. I am a freaking mess.... what did the doctor say?

dont even say you didnt go...

you obviously have a bug... antibiotics or something?...

[MR. BMJ]

You have to plan on the competition, the winner from last year, to come in even better than what he did in that picture too.

Hope ya feel better man.

BMJ
:bmj:

[RichGenetics]

what did the doctor say?

dont even say you didnt go...

you obviously have a bug... antibiotics or something?...

Umm....errr....

I haven't gone. I know it's part bug, part supplement overload, part tren/dbol problem now.

I dumped my daily pills in the trash, and will only take tylers liv detox for a week to see how it goes. Waxy maize, going in the trash can too. Tren......going to a buddy of mine or the trash can.

Money = nothing
Health = everything

I've got plenty of cash, but only one healthy body and that's the most important thing. I'll get well soon. Send me a e-card. LOL

[RichGenetics]

You have to plan on the competition, the winner from last year, to come in even better than what he did in that picture too.

Hope ya feel better man.

BMJ
:bmj:

Yeah you're right man, for sure. I agree. It's going to be tough to tell whether or not I'm going to do this or not depending on my current issue with this weeks problems.

Weighed 203.2 today though, so at least I'm not losing anything.

Thanks man I hope I feel better too.

[RichGenetics]

Unfortunately, because of the past week of total hell on earth I experienced, there will be no Sunday photos tonight. I may possibly do some tomorrow night....not sure yet.

Been a real cheat meal weekend...

[*Bunny*]

Unfortunately, because of the past week of total hell on earth I experienced, there will be no Sunday photos tonight. I may possibly do some tomorrow night....not sure yet.

Been a real cheat meal weekend...What happened to your hot wifey avatar????

I :heart: post cheat photos. lol. :dinner: I think I am one of the only ones who ever took them.

Feeling better?

[RichGenetics]

I'm going to post one of my other wives soon. Stay tuned.

Yeah, tonight I'll take some. I look good, just don't feel good.

Lower back is bothering me again today, and I can't understand how dbol could be doing this since I've taken it my entire life of cycling AAS. I just started proviron in this cycle for the first time EVER, so I wonder if that could be causing my pain.

So tired of complaining and groaning, as this just isn't like me at all.

Hopefully I'll get back to normal soon.

Wife, girlfriend, and prostitute pics are coming soon. lol

[*Bunny*]

I'm going to post one of my other wives soon.

Wife, girlfriend, and prostitute pics are coming soon. lol whoa. :(

[RichGenetics]

JOKE, lol. Please only take me seriously in the ALIEN post.

[Mols]

Practice what you preach there pretty boy! :wiggle:

[zsteph]

hey RG, hope you are feeling better.
How much do you think you got set back because of last week?
Strength and stuff is obviously down I bet, but how much did your physique take a hit?
Hope you can still compete, and am looking forward to watching you progress!

[dubdubs]

I haven't come to visit this thread because it just took a horrific turn without any new pics.. even after cheat meals, post em :hi5:

But I hope you feel better, really I do!

[RichGenetics]

2-26-08

I feel a lot better today. Stopped the dbol yesterday. ZERO back pain. Started Anavar @ 40mg/ED today, and I already see a jump in my appetite. Probably just all in my head.

I'll take some shots this weekend. I haven't lost any size, or weight, but I'm not gaining either.

Hopefully when the Enanthate & EQ hit, I'll start gaining.

[*Bunny*]

JOKE, lol. Please only take me seriously in the ALIEN post.
lol... jab jab jab
*shakes head*

2-26-08

I feel a lot better today. Stopped the dbol yesterday. ZERO back pain. Started Anavar @ 40mg/ED today, and I already see a jump in my appetite. Probably just all in my head.

I
Great news here.

:elephant:

[RichGenetics]

Yes, the news is good, although I'm losing some of the dbol bloat which is fine with me. I'll be much happier on 750mg Enanthate, 600mg EQ, & 40mg Anavar for the next 10-11 weeks.

I'm going to jump up the Var 10mg every couple weeks and try to get to around 70mg/Wk, as I've done 50mg before and think a little extra would be sufficient.

My appetite is still whacked out though. I just can't get the energy to eat a solid food meal at 10am. I think that because of my nausea and possible stomach bug at the same time I was having all the problems with tren/dbol last week that now my meals aren't looking so tasty.

I can eat just about anything, but couscous/rice chicken/turkey just make me want to vomit.

I can't live off of oatmeal and shakes.....lol.

[Mols]

:clap:

[RichGenetics]

3-3-08

It's been a few days since my last post, but things have been going VERY well.

I've lost the dbol bloat and I'm starting to feel extremely shredded and looking very veiny during workouts. Started IGF-1 LR3 today and will continue for 4 weeks.

I'll post some pics up soon. I need to let everyone in on the progress.

Weight today was a solid 202. Abs are coming in fairly well.

[dubdubs]

3-3-08

It's been a few days since my last post, but things have been going VERY well.

I've lost the dbol bloat and I'm starting to feel extremely shredded and looking very veiny during workouts. Started IGF-1 LR3 today and will continue for 4 weeks.

I'll post some pics up soon. I need to let everyone in on the progress.

Weight today was a solid 202. Abs are coming in fairly well.

GREAT and you sure do... :)

[RichGenetics]

I know you're excited about them.....:p

[dubdubs]

I know you're excited about them.....:p

all the more reason for you to hurry along and post them :flowers:

[RichGenetics]

Here are 2 shots from 2-28-08. From then to now, WOW what a difference. You'll just have to wait until I can get some new shots this week. Very busy.

Until then, critique away. So far the abs are coming in nicely, and the water is coming off, THANK GOODNESS.

[Mols]

:hi5::nod:

[*Bunny*]

Looking GOOD RG!!!!

Missed ya around here, glad youre feeling better!

Have a great Hump DAY!!!

[JayC]

Damn son!!!!! GREAT PROGRESSION! Very nice. Your hard work is evident. Glad to see your off the Tren. I don't think it was doing you any justice w/all those sides. Can't wait to see what a few more weeks of Var will do for those abs! Keep it up my friend.

[dubdubs]

:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

Now that is what I call dessert

On a serious note, you can really see you are leaning out!

[RichGenetics]

Mols, Bunny, Jay, WW, thanks to you all.

I'm thankful I'm feeling better too B, that tren really screwed me up big time. The anavar has saved my life. It's amazing.

Jay, yeah man I'm ready to see how the var will keep working. My strength is off the charts for me personally. I walked in the gym monday and did chest & tris, and it was an amazing workout. I never have a spotter, and probably never will because theres nobody at the gym when I go, so I jumped on the flat bench this week instead of the incline. Did all the way up to 295 for 6 reps. Seems light, but I never lift heavy like that anymore.

I'm ready for tomorrow. Back/Biceps/Abs. yea boi.

[JG1]

Looking great bro'

[RichGenetics]

I ate Cracker Barrell again......but it was SOOOOOO good.

The IGF felt great in the biceps too. Nice :)

[dubdubs]

whooops sorry I keep thinking its Sunday, lol... :kiss:

[RichGenetics]

Could be Saturday if you're lucky........

[*Bunny*]

I ate Cracker Barrell again......but it was SOOOOOO good.

The IGF felt great in the biceps too. Nice :)
RG - How many weeks out are you?
Is this something we should be cracking the whip on you for?

Just let us know when the time comes if you need it.

Happy Friday!

[RichGenetics]

B, honestly, I'm not certain if I'm going to be competing or not.

I've got a million things on my plate as it is right now, and I'm not sure I have the time to diet or time that's needed for dedication.

Entrepreneur lifestyle.

We'll see though.

Either way, I'm still hitting the gym hard and trying to gain as much as possible.

[JayC]

B, honestly, I'm not certain if I'm going to be competing or not.

I've got a million things on my plate as it is right now, and I'm not sure I have the time to diet or time that's needed for dedication.

Entrepreneur lifestyle.

We'll see though.

Either way, I'm still hitting the gym hard and trying to gain as much as possible.

Well, if you clear the gotdamn cracker barrell off your plate you'd have alot more room!!..lol J/K Either way, stick w/it bro. You never know what tomorrow brings. In my late 20's I had all but given up on pursuing any more sports.. and now I'm in MMA. I'm glad I didn't give up in the gym or I wouldn't have been able to hack it thus far!

[RichGenetics]

Yeah Jay, I'm sure the cracker barrell isn't helping but I'm pretty sure it's not hurting either as I'm only in week 4 of the bulking cycle right now.

I'm not going to totally say I'm 100% sure I'm not going to compete because I have no idea what my physique will look like in 8-9 weeks from now. If I finish up strong and gain upwards of 217 or so, then I may possibly give it some serious thought. I'll also have some huge personal things off my shoulders by then, so it's very possible that I can assess the situation and determine if I'll have the time to take for the preparation/dieting. That's the big "if".

Trust, I want to compete, but I live an on the go, busy businessman type lifestyle, and with it comes stress and hard work, which is exactly what comes along with preparations for a show. I don't know if the 2 can co-exist.

We'll see.

Either way, I'm never going to stop training hard. After my house is finished (they started construction in May of 07...ugh) being built and that monkey is off my shoulders, I'll probably have some extra time to focus on the goal at hand. In the meantime, I'm going to keep busting my balls in the gym.

[*Bunny*]

B, honestly, I'm not certain if I'm going to be competing or not.

I've got a million things on my plate as it is right now, and I'm not sure I have the time to diet or time that's needed for dedication.

Entrepreneur lifestyle.

We'll see though.

Either way, I'm still hitting the gym hard and trying to gain as much as possible.RG - Whatever you decide will be the right decision. That's the best part. :)

Best wishes.

[RichGenetics]

3-8-08

Ok, here's some new shots from a minute ago. Weights hovering around 204-205 consistently.

My abs are starting to come out more and I'm gaining some quality LBM. Week 4 is almost over, so I've got a long way to go.

Wow, a new avi too :hilarious:

[RichGenetics]

I swear the bigger I get the smaller I feel.

Must be the opposite of how rexi's feel.

[Mackman]

You look great dude, I know you see room for improvement we all do. I look at pics from my 20's and can't believe I looked like that, I would pay good money to be there right now, enjoy bro.

[RichGenetics]

Thanks man, i'm enjoying for sure and hoping the next 9 weeks will bring some great gains.

[*Bunny*]

I WANT THAT CHAIN!!!

Im going to S.Destin for Thanksgiving, I WILL have to find it.

Great pics
Barrel of Cracks looks like it s doing a body good. :)

Nice wheels.

[RichGenetics]

I WANT THAT CHAIN!!!

Im going to S.Destin for Thanksgiving, I WILL have to find it.

Great pics
Barrel of Cracks looks like it s doing a body good. :)

Nice wheels.

Aight, if I can find another one I'll mail you one.

I'm hoping to go to Destin this summer but who knows.

Yeah, cracker barrell does a body good I guess.

The wheels up top are looking good, but I'm sort of bummed about my calves. I think I'm going to train them 3x this week. I want to put another inch on them and they're hovering close to 18" right now.

That means I need to step it up in the arms race. The arms are about 1/2" smaller than the calves....

[dubdubs]

ahem.. and what did you eat at cracker barrel? Perkins does a body good too, lol. YUM, I love their pancakes and corn muffins!

I could eat there morning, noon and night! :overhead:

[Mols]

OK what is cracker barrel

[zsteph]

good ole southern country cookin. With things like:

The Cracker Barrel’s Country Boy Breakfast®

Just loosen your belt and enjoy your choice of Country Ham, Pork Chops or Steak grilled to order, Three Eggs cooked to order, Fried Apples, Hashbrown Casserole, Grits, Sawmill Gravy, Homemade Buttermilk Biscuits, real Butter and the best Preserves, Jam n’ Apple Butter (on request) we could find.

AND

Huge Country Fried Chicken/Steak with gravy, Meatloaf dinners. With unlimited cornbread or biscuits. 3 big Sides... Fried okra, Mac n Cheese, Mashed Potatos are my choices.

All this for under like $8! So might as well order two plates... :woot::biggthumpup:

[dubdubs]

good ole southern country cookin. With things like:

The Cracker Barrel’s Country Boy Breakfast®

Just loosen your belt and enjoy your choice of Country Ham, Pork Chops or Steak grilled to order, Three Eggs cooked to order, Fried Apples, Hashbrown Casserole, Grits, Sawmill Gravy, Homemade Buttermilk Biscuits, real Butter and the best Preserves, Jam n’ Apple Butter (on request) we could find.

AND

Huge Country Fried Chicken/Steak with gravy, Meatloaf dinners. With unlimited cornbread or biscuits. 3 big Sides... Fried okra, Mac n Cheese, Mashed Potatos are my choices.

All this for under like $8! So might as well order two plates... :woot::biggthumpup:


OMG I love apple butter YUMMMMMMMMMMM!

AHAHAHA! No wonder Richie RICH is so HOT (all that good food does HIS body good, lol) :kiss:

[Tweak]

Holy Lord.

That is one delicious avatar, sir. :drool:

I love apple butter and I wouldn't mind eating it off those abs! :dinner:

[RichGenetics]

good ole southern country cookin. With things like:

The Cracker Barrel’s Country Boy Breakfast®

Just loosen your belt and enjoy your choice of Country Ham, Pork Chops or Steak grilled to order, Three Eggs cooked to order, Fried Apples, Hashbrown Casserole, Grits, Sawmill Gravy, Homemade Buttermilk Biscuits, real Butter and the best Preserves, Jam n’ Apple Butter (on request) we could find.

AND

Huge Country Fried Chicken/Steak with gravy, Meatloaf dinners. With unlimited cornbread or biscuits. 3 big Sides... Fried okra, Mac n Cheese, Mashed Potatos are my choices.

All this for under like $8! So might as well order two plates... :woot::biggthumpup:


I had the Country Boy breakfast the other night, how'd you know? I got the country ham....mmmmmmm, yummy.

[RichGenetics]

Holy Lord.

That is one delicious avatar, sir. :drool:

I love apple butter and I wouldn't mind eating it off those abs! :dinner:

:partydots:

[Mols]

Ugh you southerners eat crazy stuff lol

[zsteph]

I had the Country Boy breakfast the other night, how'd you know? I got the country ham....mmmmmmm, yummy.It's the most food on the menu, and the obvious choice to anyone who wants to add mass :P How can you pass it up? :rofl:

You are looking great man, keep it up!

[RichGenetics]

Yes, I have no idea on the caloric intake but I'm sure after I had the entire piece of ham, 2 eggs, hashbrown casserole, grits, 3 biscuits (2 with gravy, 1 with apple butter), and baked apples, that it would be around 2000 cals or more.

Add 2 diet cokes to that, and I slept nicely that evening.

[*Bunny*]

I had the Country Boy breakfast the other night, how'd you know? I got the country ham....mmmmmmm, yummy. Im willing to bet over 2k :)

:)

Just for that breakfast?

:)
1670 cals
75.5 g fat
84 protein
162 carbs

[HULK1550]

a quick question and observation.

if you are 204 now how are you going to be 217 if you continue to diet?

second, i would target upper pecs. you look to have good chest mass low but upper pec mass will make you chest look HUGE.

[RichGenetics]

a quick question and observation.

if you are 204 now how are you going to be 217 if you continue to diet?

second, i would target upper pecs. you look to have good chest mass low but upper pec mass will make you chest look HUGE.

Well I'm not dieting, I'm trying to bulk but it's going slow. I'm obviously not eating enough or else I'd be gaining faster, but then again, I think dropping the dbol and adding the anavar is what's making me shred out so fast.

I'm doing the math, and if I have 9 weeks left to go, I'd only need to gain a little over a pound a week to get the 217 mark, but who knows if I can get there. I'm trying.

I'm still not certain I'll be competing 100%, but we'll see how this bulk goes and I'll determine that in the next few weeks. I'm just too busy I think. Too many multi tasking going on, and I don't think I have the time to dedicate my life for 9-12 of dieting and hell.

As for the upper pecs, I totally agree with you.

I'm doing incline bench, incline dumbells, etc, and it's very tough for them to grow.

Any suggestions? I'm only training 1 bodypart per week, so I could possibly jump on upper chest another time during the week.

[Mols]

I can help you :cloud9:

[HULK1550]

As for the upper pecs, I totally agree with you.

I'm doing incline bench, incline dumbells, etc, and it's very tough for them to grow.

Any suggestions? I'm only training 1 bodypart per week, so I could possibly jump on upper chest another time during the week.

I have had the same problem with you my whole life. i actually did show a lot of improvement working with IG a while back. my log is one the old board but i dont know how to dig it up. people ask to see it all the time but i dont have the link.

overall though, i would say you dont need to train it more during the week. from what i have seen on hard gainers in certain areas, more is usually counterproductive. you just have to make your time more constructive. overall we changed our workouts a ton and the intensity was through the roof but the workouts were not long.

[IliekFude]

Well I'm not dieting, I'm trying to bulk but it's going slow. I'm obviously not eating enough or else I'd be gaining faster, but then again, I think dropping the dbol and adding the anavar is what's making me shred out so fast.

I'm doing the math, and if I have 9 weeks left to go, I'd only need to gain a little over a pound a week to get the 217 mark, but who knows if I can get there. I'm trying.

I'm still not certain I'll be competing 100%, but we'll see how this bulk goes and I'll determine that in the next few weeks. I'm just too busy I think. Too many multi tasking going on, and I don't think I have the time to dedicate my life for 9-12 of dieting and hell.

As for the upper pecs, I totally agree with you.

I'm doing incline bench, incline dumbells, etc, and it's very tough for them to grow.

Any suggestions? I'm only training 1 bodypart per week, so I could possibly jump on upper chest another time during the week.
inclines, overheads and even flat db press will hit the upper pecs moreso than flat bb. all good options.
frequency of wrkouts and intensity is all up to you bud, add things in slowly and give it a few weeks to see how yr recovery handles it.
And, lookin jakt in the ava' brotha!

[MR. BMJ]

I have had the same problem with you my whole life. i actually did show a lot of improvement working with IG a while back. my log is one the old board but i dont know how to dig it up. people ask to see it all the time but i dont have the link.

overall though, i would say you dont need to train it more during the week. from what i have seen on hard gainers in certain areas, more is usually counterproductive. you just have to make your time more constructive. overall we changed our workouts a ton and the intensity was through the roof but the workouts were not long.

Not sure if members can access this, but here is the addy to that thread:

HULK's Contest Prep - Topic Powered by Infopop (http://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=702093973&f=2540953661&m=217107839)

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It's a sticky on the contest forum:)

Hopefully Ulter will be able to get those posts from the old board over soon.

BMJ
:bmj:

[Tweak]

I know you guys are being helpful dudes, but I'd wiggle all over this guy as is. lol :drool:

[dubdubs]

inclines, overheads and even flat db press will hit the upper pecs moreso than flat bb. all good options.
frequency of wrkouts and intensity is all up to you bud, add things in slowly and give it a few weeks to see how yr recovery handles it.
And, lookin jakt in the ava' brotha!

throw some pullovers in there too :angel:

[RichGenetics]

I have had the same problem with you my whole life. i actually did show a lot of improvement working with IG a while back. my log is one the old board but i dont know how to dig it up. people ask to see it all the time but i dont have the link.

overall though, i would say you dont need to train it more during the week. from what i have seen on hard gainers in certain areas, more is usually counterproductive. you just have to make your time more constructive. overall we changed our workouts a ton and the intensity was through the roof but the workouts were not long.

Yeah, it seems that everything grows very well on my body but my upper chest. It's actually growing now, just slower than I'd like.

I'm going to check out the links BMJ posted below. Thanks to all you guys.

[RichGenetics]

inclines, overheads and even flat db press will hit the upper pecs moreso than flat bb. all good options.
frequency of wrkouts and intensity is all up to you bud, add things in slowly and give it a few weeks to see how yr recovery handles it.
And, lookin jakt in the ava' brotha!

I'm definitely going to focus more on the incline range for sure. Overheads....do you mean pullovers like WW said?

I'm thinking of jumping into training each bodypart 2x a week for 3 weeks, then going back to 1x per week, just to see if I can kick start some new fibers. I've been doing the 1x per week for years and NEVER change it up. I think a change is something that i'll benefit from now that I'm getting into week 4 of the cycle and the Test/EQ/Var are flowing now.

[RichGenetics]

I can help you :cloud9:

With????

[RichGenetics]

I know you guys are being helpful dudes, but I'd wiggle all over this guy as is. lol :drool:

Tweak is my new best friend. :jumpjoy:

[IliekFude]

by overheads i meant overhead presses or militaries. they hit the front delts/ triceps / and also the pecs mostly upper.

[RichGenetics]

throw some pullovers in there too :angel:

I'm actually doing that right now. I'll use a flat bench, get a 85lb dumbell, and slap my shoulders on the bench, keep my ass to the ground, and back back back we go with the weight behind my head.

Those are def helping.

So is your new avi. :dj:

[*Bunny*]

Tweak is my new best friend. :jumpjoy:
take a number!


way too many beautiful people in this thread...

[IliekFude]

way too many beautiful people in this thread...

Thanks, i just had that helmet made. The horns are from a dragon i killed.

[Tweak]

Tweak is my new best friend. :jumpjoy:

:cuddle:

:p

[RichGenetics]

take a number!


way too many beautiful people in this thread...

This can be the community lounge then.

All are welcome.

Great horns too fude.

[IliekFude]

thanks, wasnt easy.

[Mols]

I know you guys are being helpful dudes, but I'd wiggle all over this guy as is. lol :drool:

lol i shouldnt say me too, but me too :p

[Mrs Croft]

lol i shouldnt say me too, but me too :p

I shouldn't say "me too" either..hell I am married and 'older' :lol: but what the hell..a girls got to have a hobby :grin: ME TOO!!!!

[Mols]

I shouldn't say "me too" either..hell I am married and 'older' :lol: but what the hell..a girls got to have a hobby :grin: ME TOO!!!!

:cheer: :werd:

[dubdubs]

I'm actually doing that right now. I'll use a flat bench, get a 85lb dumbell, and slap my shoulders on the bench, keep my ass to the ground, and back back back we go with the weight behind my head.

Those are def helping.

So is your new avi. :dj:

try laying the other way. I find that when I do them the way you describe, it works well, but works more my lats.. also hits the core well. I did them the other night at the end of my chest workout and also gave my chest a good stretch. The other way works my lats so good, I often do those first and just exhaust the hell out of my lats and then hit some seated rows.. or whatever.

Great work though with the 85s.. I have gone up at high as 35, lol.. :weightlifter:

oh btw so what you are saying about my new avy is that I need me to stand behind you so if your head is down a bit you get a good view. That may work for you.. heheh - anything to help out a guy work on his chest!

[RichGenetics]

Wow, what a following in here....lol. I must say I'll have to keep stepping my game up and get better pics this weekend. I'm not feeling the gains for some reason. I'm going to drop the adex that I've been taking. I also wonder if I'm on too many AI's. Doing proviron at 50mg/ED, & 2 pumps of AIFM every night. Doesn't seem like too much, but I don't know.

Mols, Ms croft, WW, & buns are my heros. :)

WW, I'm going to try swapping the way I'm laying on the bench for sure on the next chest workout. It does work lats the way I'm doing it, so the long way might work better.

If you were standing behind me while I was doing pullovers in that thong....hmm....

[IliekFude]

Wow, what a following in here....lol.
Mols, Ms croft, WW, & buns are my heros. :)

Hey! F- you too pal! :tongue3:

[dubdubs]

If you were standing behind me while I was doing pullovers in that thong....hmm....

Ok, I'll wear nothing :redevil:

also take an incline bench for your flies and lay on the bench with your shoulders off the bench and your feet on the seat and do flies this way but when you come up criss cross the dumbells.. left hand then right and alternate. You can also do these on the tbar row... (a friend had this in his journal once and I tried it out.. works wonders) Also when doing inclines with a bar.. Let the bar scrape really close to your chin hitting the neck.. also works the upper!

Let me know if you get what I mean jelly bean.. kisses :banana:

[RichGenetics]

Hey! F- you too pal! :tongue3:

:flowers: Ok here's some flowers. I think one would look nice in your horn hat. :woot:

In all seriousness, you da man too buddy.

[RichGenetics]

Ok, I'll wear nothing :redevil:

also take an incline bench for your flies and lay on the bench with your shoulders off the bench and your feet on the seat and do flies this way but when you come up criss cross the dumbells.. left hand then right and alternate. You can also do these on the tbar row... (a friend had this in his journal once and I tried it out.. works wonders) Also when doing inclines with a bar.. Let the bar scrape really close to your chin hitting the neck.. also works the upper!

Let me know if you get what I mean jelly bean.. kisses :banana:

Very good information. I'm going to try this as well. Monday will be a good day.

[dubdubs]

what is going on in here.. no updates on the chest routine and no more pics? slacker :D

[Mols]

BUMP! YOU need to come back Mr.!!

[Mols]

Guess that last message didnt work :(