Dragon's 30 week AAS cycle

[Dragon]

My next cycle. You inputs please.

After I have surgery and recover in november, I am going to begin a long moderate dosed cycle, rotating compounds with needs. I am on prescribed HRT with 200mg T. Cyp ew, so length of cycle and recovery is of no concern for me!

Current stats are: 5'7" 220lbs about 12-14% BF. I have been off for awhile due to funds, lol! but I have stacked up and slowly built up enough gear now to prep for next summer!

Gonna bulk for a bit, then cut, then just try and continue to accumulate lean mass while dieting. Here is my current plan, though changes are most likely inevitable.

weeks dose AAS
1-10 600mg T. cyp ew
1-10 500mg deca ew
1-5 25mg dbol ed
1-10 425mg glucophage after meals (my first time using)

11-20 400mg t .cyp ew
11-20 400mg eq ew
11-16 40mg anavar ed
11-16 up to 100mcg t3 ed

21-30 200mg T. cyp ew
21-30 75mg Tren acetate ed
21-28 50mg Winstrol ed

Plenty of both femara and armidex on hand. Also novladex. maybe aromsin too, havn't decided yet if it is worth the cash.

I am hoping to accuire some more stuff for weeks 21-30. Not sure what yet, but maybe some more d-bol, ,or halo, or something. IGF-1 maybe a possibility too. All depends oon funds.

My goal is to hit 225-230lbs at 8-10% BF, but 6-8% bf would be better I am going to be doing ckd during t3 with clen also. Then a steady kow calorie, ,but high protien healthy diet after. And of course when bulking I will be be eating all out

Any thoughts, changes, input?

I am working on getting a script for HGH too, That might be added. It would be for HRT so most likely not too high of a dose. Hopefully 2iu ed whole time I should have my bloodwork back tomorrow! Excited



[This message was edited by Dragon on 11-03-2003 at 11:09 AM.]

[This message was edited by Dragon on 11-06-2003 at 03:18 AM.]

[archive_Cyp]

That's one HELL of an intresting cycle Dragon. WIth the sauce you have on hand your goals are WELL with in reason. You did not mention your age. To be honest bro I would just stick with a simple Test/Tren/Eq/Winny cycle. Sub Anavar in for the Winny if you have enough. Keep the test at a moderate level 500-800mg per week and half a pill arimedex a day should be more then sufficient. The dbol really is not neccesary in my opion. Its a great bulker and strenght builder but the Tren wil be a more then adequate subsitution, with less side effects. Gook Luck my friend KEEP me posted on the HGH. I would like to try your approach to get a script. I think were in the same boat on that one, I'm just a little behind. My MD tested my Test levels and recommended Test therapy. But im at the begining stages, you know freak'n andro gel.

[Dragon]

I should have blood work done every month. I also moved some test from 1-10 to 11-20. I should have blood work done every month. I also moved some test from 1-10 to 11-20. Thanx, I am a firm believer in bulk first then cut. I also want the gains to come at a moderate, steady slow pace for the last 20 weeks.

[gtaman]

How old are you?

Are you sure about the CKD? I'm pretty sure that on a cycle like this you could simply moderate carbs and lower calories and work hard in the gym to get the desired effect.

[Dragon]

24yo, and my wife wants to do a ckd and wants me to do it with her, so it is easier.

[archive_Ulter]

I like it. I would leave the eq in there when you bring in tren. You should do very well with that.

[archive_MR. BMJ]

I agree w/ Ulter. I'd keep the eq continued through til the end. 10 wks on Eq really isn't very long.

This looks similar to what I will be doing this winter. Except I am gonna hopefully use NPP instead of decanoate. I'm running test right now since I just started back, and it is going great. In a few weeks, i'm gonna add in the NPP, then a few weeks after that, low-dose d-bol and Eq w/ the test and NPP. Then finish off w/ Test/tren/winny/eq...and masteron somewhere in there...not sure yet.

BMJ

[RefuseToLose]

Things I would change or add:

Lose the glucophage in the first phase and either use slin or r-ALA. Glucphage will cause a rise in your SHBG and that's going to interfere with your free test levels (and what good id running all that gear if you're not going to be able to use it all). Insulin and ALA both will supress SHBG levels and you'll feel a lot better as well (Glucophage made me into a human salad shooter and made me lethargic).

Move the T3 so that you'll be finishing it up when you are finishing up the AAS. Running AAS for ten weeks after ceasation of the T3 will cause your thyroid to be shut down for a prolonged amount of time (especially running the fina after it). Besides, the anti-catabolic properties of the cyp, tren, and stan will go along way with the T3 and when you come off after being on that long you're probably going to get a sharp rise in T3 levels anyway which will work out nicely since your T3 will be on the low side coming off of it....just think of it as a quicker way to recover your thyroid.

Lastly, I'd throw in some HCG every 6 weeks just for the sake of the gonads. Big and ripped with balls looks a lot better than big and ripped without balls.

On an extra note, if you get the IGF-1, that will go nicely with your CKD plan except you might want to add in a few carbs and use a ton of r-ALA with it. When you use it, be sure to use the femara for your anti-e as it works favorable with IGF-1 where others will tend to interfere (especially Nolvadex). If you get the hGH it will help your IGF-1 go a little further as well, so you might be able to run it a little longer or save some cash that way.

With those little adjustments it should be a killer cycle bro. I'm jealous.

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[Dragon]

^^Thanx but I dislike hcg, ,and since I am on HRT, it don't matter anymore. Besides, my balls are still decent even after the hell they have been through over the years.

As for the t3, I have never heard that thyroid will remain suppressed if aas are continued? Frankly, I just don't believe that. Any one else have thoughts on that?

Looks like I will be able to pick up some more eq to run 11-30 at 400mg ew. I may also pick up some prop and throw in 25mg ed with the fina and cyp in 21-30. So if I get what I want, it will look like this:

weeks dose AAS
1-10 600mg T. cyp ew
1-10 500mg deca ew
1-5 25mg dbol ed
1-10 425mg glucophage before meals (my first time using)

11-20 400mg t .cyp ew
11-20 400mg eq ew
11-16 40mg anavar ed
11-16 up to 100mcg t3 ed

21-30 200mg T. cyp ew
21-30 400mg eq ew
21-30 25mg t. prop ed
21-30 75mg Tren acetate ed
21-28 50mg Winstrol ed

Along with th eother goodies I mentioned.

[South of the border]

I think if you are to spend all that money to stay on a good amount of gear for 30months you should raise your expectations and aim to get more out of that big cycle.

[Dragon]

OK^^^OK Good Idea. 240-245lbs @ 6%BF

There is my goal now!

[E2]

My question to you is, what is the surgury for?

[Dragon]

I am having laproscopic surgery to correct my hiatil hernia.

All done telescpoically.