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Old 08-03-2003, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ok this is the last installment of product sharing here,

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Old 08-04-2003, 09:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, I have been taking it for over 2 weeks now and I like it a lot. My recovery time is much faster and my muscles feel a bit fuller. Taking it in the morning and before bedtime works for me. I may change it to a post workout and before bedtime schedule later.

My strength is going up, but I'm not sure it's related to G-Plenish or not. It could be though, since G-Plenish is the only product I've added to my supplement stack lately.
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Old 08-05-2003, 03:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks bro

its just going to get better and better you'll see.

I like to take it post workout just to make sure I halt all catabolism, and to flood my body with Gplenish


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Old 08-08-2003, 12:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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can someone explain the mechanism and relat...
b/w glutamine/glutamine peptides and catabolism..

Specifically is it due to GH release? and if so is it stimulating the pituitary?
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Old 08-08-2003, 08:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ok here is some feedback

we sarted a month ago so

feedback is great and coming in lol

ALEX I will get back to you specifically on the DIFFERENCE between Gluatmine and Glutamine Peptides

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/sh...hreadid=251846

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/sh...threadid=12779
http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/For...&threadid=6411
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Old 08-09-2003, 09:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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thanks for the links...most of them are just testimonial to effectiveness. I was wondering on the mechanism..why glutamine works specifically..influencing greater GH release? anti-oxidant function? etc etc...
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Old 08-10-2003, 02:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Check these out:

https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop...1f98dfcc&id=65

http://www.imbi.uni-freiburg.de/coch...r/AB001457.htm

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/aminoaci...glutamine.html

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/su...glutamine.html

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/131/9/2590S

Random Studies...
Glutamine inhibits the lowering effect of glucose on the level of phosphoenolpyruvate carboxykinase mRNA in isolated rat hepatocytes
A Lavoinne, A Husson, M Quillard, A Chedeville and A Fairand
Institut Federatif de Recherches Multidisciplinaires sur les Peptides no. 23, U.F.R. Medecine-Pharmacie de Rouen, Saint Eticnne du Rouvray, France.

The expression of phosphoenolpyruvate carboxykinase (P-pyruvate CK) was shown to be decreased by hypoosmolarity and increased by glutamine in perfused liver from fed rats [Newsome, W. P., Warskulat, U., Noe, B., Wettstein, M., Stoll, B., Gerok, W. & Haussinger, D. (1994) Biochem, J. 304, 555-560]. This work was undertaken to specify the mechanisms of glutamine action, using isolated hepatocytes from rats that had been starved for 24 h. At low concentrations (up to 5 mM), glutamine elicited a decrease in the level of P-pyruvate CK mRNA through cell swelling and, at higher concentrations, an increase in the mRNA level was observed. Experiments with combinations of glucose and glutamine or glucose and various amino acids demonstrated that glutamine counteracted the inhibitory effect of glucose on P-pyruvate CK mRNA at a transcriptional, level, and strongly suggested that the amide group of glutamine was involved in this effect. The metabolism of glucose was required for the reinforcement of the apparent stimulatory effect of glutamine, as demonstrated by the use of various sugars. Glucosamine, but not mannosamine, increased the level of P-pyruvate CK mRNA, as did glucose plus glutamine. These results suggest that the pathway leading from glucosamine-6-phosphate production might be responsible, at least partly, for the effect observed on P-pyruvate CK mRNA.

Evidence that glutamine modulates respiratory burst in stressed rat polymorphonuclear cells through its metabolism into arginine
Christophe Moinard1,2, Florence Caldefie-Chezet1, Stephane Walrand1,2, Marie-Paule Vasson1, Luc Cynober2,3
1Laboratoire de Biochimie, Biologie Moléculaire et Nutrition EA 2416 and Centre de Recherche en Nutrition Humaine, Faculté de Pharmacie, Clermont-Ferrand, France
2Laboratoire de Biologie de la Nutrition, Faculté de Pharmacie, 4 avenue de l'Observatoire, 75270 Paris Cedex 06, France
3Laboratoire de Biochimie, Hotel-Dieu, AP-HP and Inserm U341, France

(Received 29 October 2001–Revised 10 July 2002–Accepted 11 August 2002)

Glutamine (GLN) and arginine (ARG) are recognized for their ability to modulate immune cell function. However, the metabolic pathways involved in their action remain unclear. It was recently shown that GLN- or ARG-enriched diets increased radical oxygen species (ROS) production by neutrophils from stressed rats. Since these two amino acids have a tied metabolism, we hypothesized that conversion between GLN and ARG (and its active metabolites NO• and polyamines) might be involved. To test this hypothesis male Sprague–Dawley rats (n 117) were randomized into thirteen groups: rats in eleven groups were rendered catabolic by dexamethasone injection (1·5 mg/kg per d for 5 d) and 6·8 mmol either GLN, ARG or non-essential amino acids (NEAA; glycine, alanine and histidine)/kg per d were given by the enteral route; one group was pair-fed to the treated groups. The regimens of all the groups were rendered isonitrogenous by the addition of NEAA. The last group was not treated and was fed ad libitum. For each supplementation three subgroups were formed, each of which received a specific inhibitor: methionine sulfoximine (inhibitor of GLN synthase; 100 mg/kg per d), S-methylthiourea (inhibitor of inducible NO• synthase (iNOS); 50 mg/kg per d) and difluoromethylornithine (inhibitor of ornithine decarboxylase (ODC); 50 mg/kg per d). Oxidative metabolism, intracellular H2O2, and extracellular O2•− production were measured in unstimulated and phorbol myristate acetate-stimulated polymorphonuclear neutrophils. GLN- and ARG-enriched diets increased respiratory burst by neutrophils (oxidative metabolism of 152 (sem 24) and 138 (sem 45) v. 57 (sem18) mV for GLN-, ARG- and NEAA-enriched diets respectively, P<0·05). In vivo inhibition of iNOS or ODC decreased ROS production induced by GLN and ARG. In vivo inhibition of GLN synthase did not modify the effect of ARG on ROS production. In conclusion, GLN and ARG modulate ROS production in neutrophils from stressed rats by the same pathway involving polyamine and NO• synthesis.

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Thanks Steel Preacher


about antixidants:

we know that a slew of natural foods provide us with antioxidant and their said benifits

however comsuming enough fruits to satisfy the goal, especially with our lifestyles is quite hard
Gplenish provides us a dense alternative to bulky food in reaching that goal

based on these antioxidants glutamine peptides have the antioxidant action similar to 3-5 servings of fruit or vegetables based on ORAC (oxygen radical absorbance capacity) for vitamins C, E, and beta-carotene. Glutamine peptides offer 300 times more ORAC antioxidant equivalents as compared to free glutamine.



SOURCE ORAC INTAKES

Vitamin E (500mg) 116
Vitamin C (500mg) 2830
3-5 servings of fruits and vegetables 1950
B-carotene (250mg) 300
bound amino acid glutamine (5-7g) 3.5-5.4
Protein hydrolysate (10-15g) 1100-1650

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Old 08-12-2003, 12:01 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Damn looks like good stuff......thanks for the links...etc
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Old 08-12-2003, 12:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've been using it along with thermorexin and glucorell r. So far I've been using it for about a week now and am very impressed. I've been hitting the weights very hard this past week and my recovery has been nothing but amazing so far. I've also noticed increased vascularity and muscle fullness in the past week alone. Omega and Fonz have said that it gets better also! Jesus...

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Old 08-14-2003, 08:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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thats what i am talking about

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Old 08-14-2003, 08:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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man i can't wait to get this stuff, next week i'm ordering 2 bottles. i'm optimistic because i've had okay results with regular l-glut and in know this stuff will kick the shit out of that. is it taken on an empty am and pm? that's how i took l-glut. i'll be specifically using it for dieting, anti-catablic and gh release.
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 40butpumpin:
man i can't wait to get this stuff, next week i'm ordering 2 bottles. i'm optimistic because i've had okay results with regular l-glut and in know this stuff will kick the shit out of that. is it taken on an empty am and pm? that's how i took l-glut. i'll be specifically using it for dieting, anti-catablic and gh release.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you have the discipline try to eat as clean as posssible and use Gplenish in the AM, Post-WO, and before bed. The tub should only last you 3 weeks, but the results will be phenomenal. I'm not kidding either. But you have to be disciplined. No junk food. Just good healthy food. You'll definately be pleased.

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Old 08-14-2003, 09:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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thanks man. you know it's interesting you say that because i think that's the only i could eat that cleanly, with the aid of the glut. peptides. otherwise i feel like i fall apart, and go catabolic almost over night. but yes, that's exactly what i'm looking to do with it. also, i'm looking to use it in lieu of growth hormone. early am, post wo, and late pm on an empty it is. thanks again bro.
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Hi 40

your best bet is in the AM upon rising, post workout, and before BED

also about eating clean and the feeling of increased catabolism, I feel the same way.

Gplenish will solve that problem, of this I am sure.

I have to share this quote form cutting edge muscle, its what I have felt....

scroll to CLEM DOGS post

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Old 08-16-2003, 06:15 PM   #16 (permalink)
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nice, thanks bro. i have no doubts i'm going to love the stuff.
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Old 08-17-2003, 12:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Excellent stuff IMO.

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Old 08-17-2003, 07:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I got mine the other day, along with Glucorell, ginger root and GLA. 3 days into it, and i'm getting compliments on how i look bigger, even had one guy i know ask me if i was getting ready for a show! Weight is 209 today, not too bad...actually average for me. But i was able to push 315 for more than average reps It's only been 3 days as well!

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thats great....

please fill us in on your dosage

and how you "feel" as you progress

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Old 08-18-2003, 08:29 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Ok Im on my 4th day and so far I love it bro! It tastes like shit, but i def feel a differance. I wouldn't say my size has increased but I didn't expect it too. My pumps are pretty good though when Im working out maybe thats a sign of good things to come.


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Old 08-18-2003, 08:30 AM   #21 (permalink)
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oh Im taking it 3 times on work days 2 times on rest days.


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Steel thanks for sharing,

what do you like about it? it was hard to tell form your post.

also its only been a couple of days the effects are cumulative give it about a week or two

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Old 08-18-2003, 11:08 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Not that this product needs any more pimping! (Omega is taking care of that, nicely lol) But there is an article in this months Muscle and fitness mag, touting Glute peptides and a few other nightime formulas that actually work!

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