what happens when youre happy?

[LARGELI]

what happens when youre finally happy with how you look? what happens when you reach your goals? do you set new ones? heres my SHORT bio.......worked out off and on all through high school, the most i ever weighed was 165......one month after graduation im in Marine Corps. boot camp......thinkin i would come out all swole and in great shape i came out a sick looking 135!!!! i DID feel strong though, i could hump 10 miles up a mountain with 90 pounds strapped to my back and could do 25 pull ups at once!........anyways i was sick at how i looked though........very sucked in and unhealthy looking (they dont give you much to eat in boot camp) i told myself that i would never be that thin again (i think reverse bolimia set in about then) so i worked out and ate and about a year later i was a healthy lookin 175........still wasnt happy.......kept working out and being stationed in San Diego it wasnt long before i discovered the wonderfull treasures a little place called TJ had to offer........got up to 205 eventually, but bf had to have been up around 16%, and i didnt think i looked any bigger then when i was 175.....every where i went people would tell me i was huge but i just didnt see it (sure could feel additional lower back pain though), so i still wasnt happy.........i thought if i could just get up to 225 id be happy.......it took a lot for me to bite the bullet and realize i should cut, the thought of losing weight freaked me out.......i am now on my first cut program using 250 test/week and 100 tren/eod........about to start my 4th week of this and i am currently 5'7" or 8" and 188 pounds and an educated guess of 11-12%.........and for the first time in my entire life, i got out of the shower the other day, looked in the mirror and said "DAMMMMNNNN.........i look GOOD!!!!!!!!!"... i am actually happy where i am at and i never thought that would happen!!!!!! i look bigger then when i was at 205!!! i dont think i will ever abandon the aas train, it makes working out a lot more interesting and fun! but i dont think ill ever try for anything dramatic again (a gram+ of any drug).......little doses and cycles just to make things interesting

[VOX - DEI]

Maintaining 230 lbs at 6% BF would make me happy. I've only done that for a month or so.

Anyone who wants to be bigger and function normally is asking for trouble.

1# You can't go on roller coasters.
2# You have a hard time wiping youself.
3# It is most likely not very heart healthy to be pumping blood through 250 pounds of LBM.
4# You can't drive a small sports car.
5# You can't get through most doors without turning sideways.
6# You can't get clothes off the rack to be tailored, they can only make them so big.

Feel free to add your own imput on size.

"I'm not fat, I'm festively plump!"

[LARGELI]

yea youre right vox........vox? sounds familiar hmmmmm you still got that news letter? any ways yea i never wanted to compete in body building or anything......i actually want to start taking a submission fighting class that Frank Shamrock teaches by my house so now i think i got good enough size/strength and can move a lot better and faster then when i was 205!

[archive_Bjaarki]

It's great to see threads like this, Largeli, ones that bear the message "I'm okay. I think I look good. This is good enough," that kind of thing. Harddtime posted a thread like this awhile back. It's good to see a rational alternative to the "I'll never be big enough!" kind of rants we usually see, it's good news that not everyone has a huge pathological case of Body Dysmorphia going.

I wonder, though, whether this will abide for you, this sense of satisfaction. My guess is it won't. Test/tren will make you very happy with how you look and feel. That goes away as soon as you cycle off the test/tren.

This is where we're at: Most of us go through periods where we say "This is fine. Enough is enough," but before long we're back on the merrygoround again. More gear. More intense training. Raise the bar. Take it to another level. I have no idea why this is so, but it is. Maybe it's because so very few of us have anywhere near an objective, rational take on how we look, or on what is a "normal" level of fitness, muscularity, BF. Maybe it's because we're all battling some deep insecurities. Maybe it's because we're all members of a deviant subculture that promotes and enforces pretty damned non-normative ideas about body composition and appearance. Like I say, I have no idea why this is so, it's all a guess for me.

But it's there. Very very few of us stay happy or satisfied very long. Certainly anyone who's on test and tren when they feel that way can't expect the feeling to abide when the test/tren is only a memory.

Bjaarki

... Then, do what you have to do.

[archive_Ulter]

Happy with the way you look??

What is this guy talking about?

[archive_therealj]

I'll never be happy, I wake up one day look in the mirror and like what I see...15 hours later I'll be getting ready for bed and think I look smooth, or small ect. It's a never ending battle for me, I get my bf% down to 8% but I lose 1/2" on my arms, I gain the half inch back but can't see my obliques. I don't think I'll ever truly be happy, content maybe but not happy

[Monster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VOX - DEI:


Anyone who wants to be bigger and function normally is asking for trouble.

1# You can't go on roller coasters.
2# You have a hard time wiping youself.
3# It is most likely not very heart healthy to be pumping blood through 250 pounds of LBM.
4# You can't drive a small sports car.
5# You can't get through most doors without turning sideways.
6# You can't get clothes off the rack to be tailored, they can only make them so big.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im in the 270's and have been for the longest time. I never plan to be lower than 250. Ever.

Youre right all all accounts.
1.Luckily I dont like rollercoasters
2.Yep... but its doable... go between!
3.Not neccesarily true. A healthy heart is a healthy heart. How many lean and trim marathon runners have heart attacks? Plenty. There are more factors to consider.
4.LOL! No kidding! Or mini-pickup trucks!
5.OR stand at urinals that have those stupid walls...
6.You have to shop at the Big and Tall and have waists of things brought in.

Im just getting ready for a wedding tommorrow, and I wanted a new suit, so I got a Kenneth Cole in a 52L. That way it has the shoulder width and the room in the bicep. Then I have to pay to have the damn thing brought in in the waist. Same with the pants. A 40 or 42 waist pant gives me the thigh room I need, then I have the waist brought in.

I believe there is a decent dose of body dysmorphia at play in me. But there are worse things to contend with... Im planning the culmination of my efforts soon here. When I get myself dieted to where I want to be, Im taking another run at 300lbs., and from there seeing what I can safely and comfortably hold onto, and I'll stick with that weight.

Body dysmorphia aside. I like being big.
I like being bigger than most people.
I like the attention.
I like small children climbing on me.
I like being hearing the stupid comments.
I like being seen.

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"Trying is the first step towards failure."
"Well, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is... never try."

[harddtime]

hey thats how i felt, a little while ago. I'm actually at 175 now prob around 6-7%...i'm very content but not happy to the point of being completely satisfied. I'm off of everything except 10-12.5 mg a anavar day for 6 weeks now, my goal is to maintain my look for the summer, focus completely on diet (make it impecable, doing pretty good so far, averaging 2lbs grilled chicken a day and only carbs are from oatmeal or organic bread) and make it my routine to eat like that, to the point where i don't have to try anymore.

What i'm basicly saying is be content, but never look for ways to improve, see a body part thats lagging? work on that, want a better diet? work on that. Your at 11%? work on getting it down to 8 or even 6 through a perfect diet. Really think about things...sit down and think about what you can improve, write it down, and then start doing a research and building a plan and how to achieve that. I thought my diet was good before this last month...little did i know how much better it really can be.

- harddtime

[archive_TonyDelk]

Great thread.

Most of us here will never be content with the way we look. It's what makes us bodybuilders. Human nature is to always "want what you do not/can't have". There is always something to strive for.

Why do men cheat on their wives? Everything is usually pretty simple from an evolutionary perspective. The truly hard part is denying the inate fiber that makes us what we truly are or "want to be".

Some people call that being "bipedal". Others like myself call it bullshit.

Which brings me to another questions for all of you? Does gear make any of you consider infidelity more often than when not on? I don't mean it in just the cursory sense of the word ie...I'd love to do so and so etc... But actual hard core difficult to shake feelings of wanting to have other relationships?

Maybe it's just me, but damn this stuff fucks with my emotional side. Sometimes I feel my marriage is in better hands when I'm off.

Thanks for the opportunity to vent.

TD

[Monster]

It could increase the "desire" somewhat, but in the end we're all people who are in control of what we do.
Like the "roid rage" bullshit. Some people have a personality that is just out there, and gear makes them more so. I have NEVER met a regular, good natured person who turned into a raving sociopath when using AAS.

At some point you make a decision within yourself. Maybe its subconscious, or maybe youre in touch with your emotions enough to make the decision a conscious one?

At some point you decide though.

Gear doesnt make you forget right from wrong.

You see the pretty girl. You know its wrong to cheat. If you cheat you made a decision to ignore what youre particular moral belief governs. Maybe youre man enough to admit that, maybe you arent and you need a "crutch"... so you say the gear had you so reved up you couldnt stop yourself.

To me it is a form of what this country has sunk to, one gigantic group of excuse makers. No one feels the need for accountability, not to themselves, their family, and not to society.

Does the high testosterone make me consider infidelity? Maybe to a degree... but I still make the choice NOT to do it every time. I make the choice, the testosterone doesnt make the choice.

I think it kind of reenforces the Veterans Concensus statement. If you are a person of mental "stability" that allows a drug to control YOU, you probobly shouldnt use it.

As far as emotionalness... I agree 100%!

Ive been on over 3 years non-stop, and it has leveled off, but is definatly leveled off at a higher level than pre-AAS use...

Good topic...

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"Trying is the first step towards failure."
"Well, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is... never try."

[archive_Flash]

TD, You havent been married very long, correct? I think I remember you posting about looking good for your honeymoon.

If Thats right, its normal to wonder early in your marriage about other relationships. Theres always someone who appeals to you in a different manner than your spouse. But that is very one dimensional. All you have are speculations on the behavior of that individual outside your experience with them. And you may compare things you like in this person to things you dont about another. Its not like you can tell from a conversation or a work relationship what that person is really like; one can only imagine. And like you said, our minds create motivation...so to increase the vitality we imagine things we would like, we project.

Over time though, the emotional ties to your partner grow, expanding to feelings that unify the two of you in a way; feelings I personally never new existed. Ive only been married three and a half years, and nothing makes me happier than thoughts of my future with my wife; getting our first house, having a child, growing old, even dieing with her or comforting her in her last days.

I hope those feelings are bearable, because if you have married the right person, you will reap far greater happiness than a short forbidden romance could ever offer.

[Fukkenshredded]

Progress is the antithesis of decay.

[archive_1911]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>"what happens when youre happy?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's all I know.

Regards,

[archive_therealj]

TD,

I can in some ways relate to what you are saying. It seems when I'm on that not only does my mind and eyes tend to wander, but the amount of attention I recieve drastically increases. I'm not sure if it's my increased libido or the fact I just look that much better, but when I'm on it seems like there are way more women there to tempt me. When I'm off I don't seem to notice it to the same degree, mental,physical, probably both, but when I'm on picking up a new girl is like shooting fish in a barrel. I guess the increased confidence, increased physical apperance and increased libido all add up for a bad combination for us taken men

[archive_MR. BMJ]

After my test prop/fina/winny/eq/T3 cycle last summer, I was very happy at 196 and 4.5% bodyfat

That combo is the magic potion....If I could just add some Masteron this year, and come in a few pounds heavier, then I don't know what would top off that stack....

BMJ

In the winter I feel good in a shirt when in the gym...however, when at home getting in the shower, I cringe and think "boy, I am a fatass"...lol.

[Holden MacGroin, GW]

I remember watching a television interview with Arnold Schwarzeneggar in the late 70's. The interviewer (a woman) asked him if he was happy with his body and he said something like "Are you kidding? If I was happy with my body do you think I would do this?" It was very enlightening to me as a teenage boy.

[archive_therealj]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Holden MacGroin, GW:
I remember watching a television interview with Arnold Schwarzeneggar in the late 70's. The interviewer (a woman) asked him if he was happy with his body and he said something like "Are you kidding? If I was happy with my body do you think I would do this?" It was very enlightening to me as a teenage boy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

long live the king

[bigmag]

I think that's the reason I like being a bodybuilder. I'm pretty much never happy with the way I look. I'm content but not happy. I like the fact that about the time I start feeling really fat it's time to start dieting for a show and getting shredded. I also like that fact that when I start feeling small and flat it's show time and then I start bulking again. It's pretty much a never ending cycle with me between bulking up and dieting down. I have to admit though that I've acheived my goals each time and hit the right weight everytime I did either of them.

Success is my only option!!

[BrahmaBull]

There are a lot of sides to life. Sometimes I'm very motivated to go after the goals on the physical side. Other times it looks to me like I have achieved a lot on the physical side, and other things are lacking. At those times I do not want to let the workouts slide; it's just that I feel more or less "content," using bigmag's term. You can't advance on all fronts at once.

Right now, though, I in the final stages of recovering from surgery. And day before yesterday I sprained my ankle! Life is so full of curves and diversions that you will never feel happy for long, there is always something to work for!

BB

[Monster]

Its a lot of how we define terms also.

Im "Happy" with my physique, really.

But Im not "Satisfied" with it.

If I never progressed any further, I could live with it. But Id like to move forward more...


When you stop wanting to progress your physique, you stop being a Bodybuilder and are just a Fitness Enthusiast.

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"Trying is the first step towards failure."
"Well, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is... never try."