How high can you bounce?

Holden MacGroin, GW · 05-25-2003, 11:52 PM

Saturday I set a new one rep max on the bench press. It was about 15 LBs heavier than anything I had done before. I had a guy spotting me, I asked him to follow me all the way down and back up - due to my lack of confidence.

It was the weirdest feeling. I started off lowering it very slowly and under control, but as it neared me chest I lost a bit of control and know I bounced it - but it came off my chest so fast, and was 3/4 the way up before I felt any real strain that I was sure my spotter had lifted it off me. I was sure he had noticed I had lost control, and simply pulled the entire weight off of me. However when I finished he said he did not help at all, and my wife said she could tell he did not lift the bar at all.

However it felt literally effortless, like someone else lifted it, the first 3/4 of the lift. Then there was a little bit of strain locking it out.

Could I have bounced the weight through 3/4 of the movement? At 6'1" my arms are long, so the pressing movement is fairly long as well. It would have been a pretty high bounce.

visar · 05-26-2003, 12:03 AM

not sure.. get a rest and try it again bro

archive_Iron God · 05-26-2003, 07:08 AM

That lift gets 3 red lights

Mister B. · 05-26-2003, 11:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Iron God:
That lift gets 3 red lights<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

AMEN!

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BrahmaBull · 05-26-2003, 02:11 PM

I think you may have really done the lift, not bounced it. The mind fools us, usually telling us we can't do as much as we really could. Then one day it shuts up (or doesn't get turned on) and we surprise ourselves. Trouble is, the mind may come right back next time with "No you can't."

Going for a heavy lift, I think you should go through the negative quickly--as quickly as you can without causing a bounce. Then jam it back up there. Don't waste too much effort controling the down phase.

Yes, I know about the benefits of super-slow and emphasizing the negative. There's a thread running about it right now. It's all good, but here we are talking about going for your maximum weight, breaking through into new territory!

BB

Curious George · 05-26-2003, 06:11 PM

Bouncing can be dangerous if too heavy of weight.

One thing I had to relearn is that you don't always have to come down slow. When coming down at a fast rate and then exploding up, you can actually lift a little heavier....that is why powerlifting meets want a stop before the concentric rep.

I am not sure why, maybe the myostatic stretch reflex and the storage of potential energy? I dunno. Either way, pylometrics works in much a similiar way.

Superslomo is another way in which to change the workout around so your body can't adapt, for me. Like E2, I only use it once in a while.

Take Good Care,

Cg

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Holden MacGroin, GW · 05-26-2003, 09:03 PM

Yeah, they said it did not look like I really bounced it. And could it bounce off your chest 14-16 inches without your chest feeling it? I dunno. But it was weird like someone else was lifting it. I am wondering if it was almost a spastic contraction due to exaggerated stretch reflex.

05-25-2003, 11:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Holden MacGroin, GW Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 92 Rep Power: 4255	How high can you bounce? Saturday I set a new one rep max on the bench press. It was about 15 LBs heavier than anything I had done before. I had a guy spotting me, I asked him to follow me all the way down and back up - due to my lack of confidence. It was the weirdest feeling. I started off lowering it very slowly and under control, but as it neared me chest I lost a bit of control and know I bounced it - but it came off my chest so fast, and was 3/4 the way up before I felt any real strain that I was sure my spotter had lifted it off me. I was sure he had noticed I had lost control, and simply pulled the entire weight off of me. However when I finished he said he did not help at all, and my wife said she could tell he did not lift the bar at all. However it felt literally effortless, like someone else lifted it, the first 3/4 of the lift. Then there was a little bit of strain locking it out. Could I have bounced the weight through 3/4 of the movement? At 6'1" my arms are long, so the pressing movement is fairly long as well. It would have been a pretty high bounce.

05-26-2003, 11:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mister B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 817 Rep Power: 5510	<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Iron God: That lift gets 3 red lights<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> AMEN! --------------------- "... my mom says I'm cool..." -- Milhouse __________________ --------------------- &quot;Um... I checked around. The girls are calling you &quot;fatty-fat fat fat&quot;, and Nelson&apos;s planning to pull down your pants, but ... nobody&apos;s trying to kill ya.&quot; &quot; -- Milhouse

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05-26-2003, 12:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
visar Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 4185	not sure.. get a rest and try it again bro

05-26-2003, 07:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
archive_Iron God Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,291 Rep Power: 7256	That lift gets 3 red lights

05-26-2003, 02:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
BrahmaBull Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 357 Rep Power: 6070	I think you may have really done the lift, not bounced it. The mind fools us, usually telling us we can't do as much as we really could. Then one day it shuts up (or doesn't get turned on) and we surprise ourselves. Trouble is, the mind may come right back next time with "No you can't." Going for a heavy lift, I think you should go through the negative quickly--as quickly as you can without causing a bounce. Then jam it back up there. Don't waste too much effort controling the down phase. Yes, I know about the benefits of super-slow and emphasizing the negative. There's a thread running about it right now. It's all good, but here we are talking about going for your maximum weight, breaking through into new territory! BB

05-26-2003, 06:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Curious George Moderator and Future CRNA Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,462 Rep Power: 24479	Bouncing can be dangerous if too heavy of weight. One thing I had to relearn is that you don't always have to come down slow. When coming down at a fast rate and then exploding up, you can actually lift a little heavier....that is why powerlifting meets want a stop before the concentric rep. I am not sure why, maybe the myostatic stretch reflex and the storage of potential energy? I dunno. Either way, pylometrics works in much a similiar way. Superslomo is another way in which to change the workout around so your body can't adapt, for me. Like E2, I only use it once in a while. Take Good Care, Cg secure email curgeo@hushmail.com cg@cyber-rights.net

05-26-2003, 09:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
Holden MacGroin, GW Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 92 Rep Power: 4255	Yeah, they said it did not look like I really bounced it. And could it bounce off your chest 14-16 inches without your chest feeling it? I dunno. But it was weird like someone else was lifting it. I am wondering if it was almost a spastic contraction due to exaggerated stretch reflex.