Comments on my next Cycle??

[archive_Turbo]

It's gonna be a long one.
Wk 1-15 500mg Omna
Wk 5-15 400mg Deca
Wk 11-18 75mg Tren/ED
Wk 19 start Clomid therapy

I have enough tren to run it wk 1-15 if I go w/ 75mg EOD, but it has been suggested to go ED at the end of the cycle to help solidify my gains. Any thoughs??? Also is it a good Idea to delay the deca 5 weeks so I can end the Omna and deca at the same time or should I start the deca at wk 1 and end it on wk 10 and finish off w/ the Omna and tren? Thanks for any advise.

[archive_aahepp]

Personal always like to jump start a cycle with either Dbol, or test suspension. That way you start to see improvements quicker and our ody starts to react faster. With you current combo, you prob. won't start seeing results till around week 4 or 5. But that is just me.

[archive_Ulter]

I would strongly suggest you use H C G in the 8th and 16th week.
And drop the deca in 11.

[onomado]

Tren is a pretty "dirty" compound. The most I have seen it recommended is to take for 6 weeks max.

[archive_Ulter]

That's not true bro. Premade tren that you get from companies like Supra or Quest is made from the same type of powder that any other AS is made from. It's not dirty at all. I agree though 6-8 weeks is all anyone should use tren unless it's a small dose (i.e. under 75mg/day).

[archive_MR. BMJ]

YES...I'd probably do the deca 1-10

Test....1-15

Tren...8-15

H c g + nolvadex...8th & 15--->10 days @ 1,000 iu/day.

Clomid...17-19 or 20 (???)

BMJ

[archive_Loco]

Ulter- why should he drop the deca in week 11? He is starting it at week 5 so it would just be kicking in by week 11.

[archive_Flash]

Isnt the Deca/Tren combo taboo. I was of the understanding it was out of consideration because of the potential for prog side-effects.

[archive_Bjaarki]

I am of the same persuasion, Flash.

The whole thing's too long by a third, too. 10 weeks of a straight test/tren stack is plenty. If deca is in there at all, it should be as a very light dose (150mg/wk) to keep your joints happy.

Test/deca/tren is an unusual combo. Substitute EQ or winny for the deca and you'll be happier.

Bjaarki

... Then, do what you have to do.

[archive_Ulter]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Loco:
Ulter- why should he drop the deca in week 11? He is starting it at week 5 so it would just be kicking in by week 11.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He could start it back in 1 and go to 11 but he needs to finish the deca before the tren gets going otherwise he'll have deca adding water that tren would be taking away. Also, his recovery from deca and tren together will likely be very long and uncomfortable so by eliminating the deca in 11 he would still be using test heading into the end of the cycle. You never want to end a cycle without test or with deca.

[archive_Turbo]

Thanks for the advise fellas...So it'll be Omna 1-15, deca 1-15 and tren 8-15 along w/ H C G and nolva and wrap it all up w/ clomid. I'm a little new to Tren...should i run it ED or EOD? One other point, I got my kit from Hugh, and I've heard that his kit is designed for 100mg/ml, if that's the case I don't want to go ED. What do you think about 100mg EOD.?

[archive_Bjaarki]

You've gotten some good feedback, but I don't think you've listened well enough, Turbo. Several of us have warned you away from running deca, or from running it contemporaneously with tren, and you're still doing that. I would take another look at your replies and revise this program. Otherwise, what's the point of asking for a review by us?

As to your question about tren, Fonz just said yesterday that he shoots tren EOD. I was surprised to hear that, since he knows more about tren than any other living human and it's always been gospel to run short-chain esters like trenbolone acetate ED. But when I asked him for his reasoning, he couldn't give it. He just said he's been going EOD lately though he doesn't know why. I think ED sticks will give you more stable blood levels and that 50mg ED is preferable to 100mg EOD, but maybe it's no big deal, as Fonz says.

Bjaarki

... Then, do what you have to do.

[archive_aahepp]

My body seems to react better to Tren on a more ED basis then the EOD. Also the one I am on now...I am doing 75mg/ED and have found that this can provide some serious discomfort to your lower back. Since I have dropped it down to a half a cc 37.5mg/ED my back problems have seem to subsided. Kidneys...no clue...just know the pain was bad. But IMO I would shot the Tren ED to keep your levels more constant as Bjaarki has said.

[archive_Turbo]

Oops...there was somewhat of a mis-type there. the Omna is in for 1-15, and the deca should be 1-10 (not 1-15...my fault). So the tren seems to be the topic of dispute. Like I said in my initial post, I'm still quite new to Tren...I've used it once before, but in a very light, quick, cutting cycle. But, because of the impressive strength gains and the, also impressive, vascularity that I gained, I thought it would be a great addition to a bulking cycle. I've admittedly, been out of the loop for some time now, but I didn't think that general concesus would have changed that much. Granted, more experience has been gathered (tren combinations and such) since my last episode and this is why I value your opinions. I do greatly appreciate everyone's input and please continue. Thanks again.

[E2]

Nothing wrong with deca and tren, i've done it and i'm about to do it again. If i can get some damn real deca!!! ARGHHHHH!!!!!

Just watch yourself closely for prolactin/progesterone sides.

We all know how i feel about h c g , so i'm not even going to comment.

onomado tren is not dirty, it never has been dirty, if you're a dirty person who makes tren then it's dirty. Quest, Supra and some other individuals make clean tren.