dare to mix

oats · 05-23-2003, 04:52 PM

How many of you dare to mix and match different plates?? When loading up a bar do you have to have the same make of plates on both sides?? What does it matter their both 45 lbs plates….right?? Well I guess I may be a little anal about this, the plates on each side have to be the same make. I’ll search the whole gym to find the plate I need. If they are not the same it feels unbalanced to me. Are all 45lb plates exactly 45lb?? There has to be some difference!

I also have all the plates facing the same direction, letters in! Like I said a little anal about this, I doubt it really makes much difference but that’s the way I gotta do it.

Oats

archive_MR. BMJ · 05-23-2003, 05:16 PM

I do this. Some of the 45's at my gym have a variance of 1-3 pounds difference. Usually okay if the same brand is used. However, older ones due to wear-and-tear may be a little less.

...LOL, I too, put my letters faced in. You can always tell a newbie from a person that has been around awhile because they point them out...at least here where I live.

I guess I fall into the "anal" category too.

BMJ

archive_FitnessChick · 05-23-2003, 06:51 PM

As Bjaarki can attest to I ONLY use YORK plates.

bigk376 · 05-23-2003, 07:16 PM

Mix and matching different brands of weight can make a difference depending on the density of the metal and how they distributed the weight.

The gym I workout only has one kind weights so I don't recall the brand off hand.

archive_Flash · 05-23-2003, 08:26 PM

that explains alot. Im now certain all the 45's at my gym are actually 48's.

charlie brown · 05-24-2003, 01:52 AM

lol...a guy I used to train with has to alternate his plates on the bar, facing in and out. All the time.

Guess I'm no better though...plates always face in.

ERTW!

archive_Mr. Nobody · 05-24-2003, 05:38 AM

In my old gym I always avoided mixing plate brandes....I mean there are thick ones and skinny ones, how can you mix these, it just does not look right?
In my new gym, they only have one brand....forgot the name...but the plates have hand holes....I am so stupid, that I actually align the holes on each side of the bar. One guy asked me once why I do this and I told him to reduce air drag and improve airodynamics...hahaha...they guy nodded in agreement, lol

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bad brains · 05-24-2003, 06:55 AM

Gotta have the letters facing in....period....

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SuperStud79 · 05-24-2003, 08:21 AM

I went to a couple gyms near the east coast when I was a newbie and I had the letters facing out. A few guys came up to tell me that that was the international gym sign that you're a homosexual.

Were they just messing with me? I don't know. They seemed pretty serious.

Either way I've always put the letters facing in since that day.

archive_LuckyDog · 05-24-2003, 08:51 AM

Plates always face in and most of the time my partner and I try to match them up the same, I'm more anal about it than he is but still...lol. Actually I was always taught that the reason the plate faces should be in was for safety reasons. If you think about how you grip a plate, you have four fingers on the side that has the lip and indentation and only your thumb on the back side of the plate (which is the flat side) which can't give you as good of a grip. So it's a stronger and safer hold of the plate and by keeping the face in you're always putting it on and taking it off the same way with the hands in the same position. Start carrying 100 lb plates around and try gripping the plate both ways, guaranteed that you're gonna want to carry and use that baby face in. Peace out bros.

LD

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oats · 05-24-2003, 09:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mr. Nobody:
I actually align the holes on each side of the bar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its all your fault!! I was doing squats today and we have a mix of plates Standard and Iron Grip (the ones with hand holes) Well the rack was full of the Iron Grip. Before I realized what I was doing all the holes were lined up!

Oats

Curious George · 05-24-2003, 11:04 AM

I do the same thing Mr Nobody.

My gym now has the rubber plated which I cannot stand. How I long for the sound of the metal clanging, but I digress.

When I train at any other gyms, plates always face the flat side out and always same brand.

A little OCD with all of us I presume?

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05-24-2003, 07:33 PM

Letters in and holes lined up..
I didn't know there was any other way!

Doggy

Holden MacGroin, GW · 05-24-2003, 09:09 PM

Crap I feel weird. I usually do letters out.

When I use the ones that look like Lifesaver candies with holes, I stagger them so the holes are not lined up. That way people can see how much weight I am doing if I go heavy, if they are lined up its hard to tell if its 225, 315 or 405.

When my wife and I lift together, the lighter weights are usually on the inside. That way I do not have to strip as much weight off as we alternate sets. Lets say if she is squatting 275 and I am squatting 365 for a set, the bar might have two 45's inner most, then a 25 pounder, then another 45.

I don't care if I mix brands, or even if it is not symmetrical and is slightly off balance. My original Jujutsu instructor use to lift weights on purpose with uneven amounts on each side so that he had to work on balance as he lifted - to get himself use to resistence against an alive opponant. For example, maybe 100 LBS on one side and 85 on the other. Because in grappling, you never push and pull with or against an even symmetrical force. But he did not lift for bb'ing, he lifted so he could throw people more effectively. Ever since then I am okay if it is unbalanced so that I have to also work balance as I lift.

granby140 · 05-26-2003, 05:06 PM

i usually lift home so everything is just the way i like it. letters in and same kind of plates

Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated.

archive_Caligula · 05-29-2003, 10:12 AM

Have you ever shared say a bench press with someone and they have one plate facing in and the other one out. Doesn't that just make your eye start twitchin'!

"That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger"

Curious

The Thing · 05-29-2003, 12:54 PM

It just must be an Ironhead thing. I am also anal about same plates, facing in, and holes lined up. In fact one of my favorite gyms has plates that are octagonal so I can be sure they are lined up exactly. Is that crazy or what?

Thing

archive_the truth · 05-29-2003, 05:01 PM

Standard plates facing in, and I also align the holes on the plates that have them.

When I train with my girlfriend, we'll often put the lighter plates on the inside as well.

Oh yeah--I mix and match, but only when I have to.

lil_killer · 06-01-2003, 10:51 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Caligula:
Have you ever shared say a bench press with someone and they have one plate facing in and the other one out. Doesn't that just make your eye start twitchin'!

http://www.anabolicfitness.net/images/caligula.jpg

"That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger"

Curious<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the way I HAVE to have my plates. First one facing in and all others facing out. That is the way they do them in powerlifting comps. so I'm a little anal about that.

_GEEZER_ · 06-01-2003, 03:16 PM

Yep. Letters in.

The plates facing different directions thing makes me a little edgy. I didn't know they do that in powerlifting comps, though. Interesting. Wonder if there's any specific reason?

I have actually seen a lot of wheels that were really 44 pounds and said 44 right on them, though the majority are 45. I know Ivanko, York, Standard and Heavy metal are all 45 lbs.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

udub · 06-01-2003, 03:38 PM

I don't care if there name in or out,in fact I'll mix and match weights long as it adds up to same amount per side.oh yeah almost forgot I sleep in my clothes as well.

lil_killer · 06-03-2003, 09:02 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by _GEEZER_:
Yep. Letters in.

The plates facing different directions thing makes me a little edgy. I didn't know they do that in powerlifting comps, though. Interesting. Wonder if there's any specific reason?

I have actually seen a lot of wheels that were really 44 pounds and said 44 right on them, though the majority are 45. I know Ivanko, York, Standard and Heavy metal are all 45 lbs.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not sure what the reason behing this is, but it's almost ingrained in my head. I can't have unmatched plates either. I will carry 45's all over the gym just to have everything match.

archive_Mr. Nobody · 06-03-2003, 09:34 AM

"the letters in" comes from the old plats. They have a rim on the side of the writing for ease of picking up.....so its more comfortable to carry them with the flat side towards your body.....then load up the same way...hence writing on the inside.

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05-23-2003, 04:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
oats Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 5725	dare to mix How many of you dare to mix and match different plates?? When loading up a bar do you have to have the same make of plates on both sides?? What does it matter their both 45 lbs plates….right?? Well I guess I may be a little anal about this, the plates on each side have to be the same make. I’ll search the whole gym to find the plate I need. If they are not the same it feels unbalanced to me. Are all 45lb plates exactly 45lb?? There has to be some difference! I also have all the plates facing the same direction, letters in! Like I said a little anal about this, I doubt it really makes much difference but that’s the way I gotta do it. Oats

05-23-2003, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
archive_Flash Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,683 Rep Power: 7050	that explains alot. Im now certain all the 45's at my gym are actually 48's. __________________ SELF ASSEMBLY REQUIRED

05-24-2003, 01:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
charlie brown Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 6085	lol...a guy I used to train with has to alternate his plates on the bar, facing in and out. All the time. Guess I'm no better though...plates always face in. ERTW! __________________ ERTW!

05-24-2003, 06:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
bad brains Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 341 Rep Power: 6286	Gotta have the letters facing in....period.... "Marshall to Friesen....score....Devils win, Devils win"....Stanley Cup Champions '95,'00,...03? __________________ &quot;Four more years of War is Peace, Ignorance is Strength and Slavery is Freedom&quot;....Propagandhi

05-24-2003, 08:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
archive_LuckyDog Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 809 Rep Power: 6772	Plates always face in and most of the time my partner and I try to match them up the same, I'm more anal about it than he is but still...lol. Actually I was always taught that the reason the plate faces should be in was for safety reasons. If you think about how you grip a plate, you have four fingers on the side that has the lip and indentation and only your thumb on the back side of the plate (which is the flat side) which can't give you as good of a grip. So it's a stronger and safer hold of the plate and by keeping the face in you're always putting it on and taking it off the same way with the hands in the same position. Start carrying 100 lb plates around and try gripping the plate both ways, guaranteed that you're gonna want to carry and use that baby face in. Peace out bros. LD Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt. -Col. R. I. Rees __________________ &quot;Only average athletes, those that are far from excellent prepare with average methods. A Champion is not average, but exceptional.&quot; ~Vladimir Zatsiorsky

05-23-2003, 05:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
archive_MR. BMJ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,869 Rep Power: 7960	I do this. Some of the 45's at my gym have a variance of 1-3 pounds difference. Usually okay if the same brand is used. However, older ones due to wear-and-tear may be a little less. ...LOL, I too, put my letters faced in. You can always tell a newbie from a person that has been around awhile because they point them out...at least here where I live. I guess I fall into the "anal" category too. BMJ

05-23-2003, 06:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
archive_FitnessChick Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,119 Rep Power: 7080	As Bjaarki can attest to I ONLY use YORK plates.

05-23-2003, 07:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigk376 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 140 Rep Power: 4825	Mix and matching different brands of weight can make a difference depending on the density of the metal and how they distributed the weight. The gym I workout only has one kind weights so I don't recall the brand off hand.

05-24-2003, 05:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
archive_Mr. Nobody Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 11939	In my old gym I always avoided mixing plate brandes....I mean there are thick ones and skinny ones, how can you mix these, it just does not look right? In my new gym, they only have one brand....forgot the name...but the plates have hand holes....I am so stupid, that I actually align the holes on each side of the bar. One guy asked me once why I do this and I told him to reduce air drag and improve airodynamics...hahaha...they guy nodded in agreement, lol Disclaimer: Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner. The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.

05-24-2003, 08:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
SuperStud79 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 5354	I went to a couple gyms near the east coast when I was a newbie and I had the letters facing out. A few guys came up to tell me that that was the international gym sign that you're a homosexual. Were they just messing with me? I don't know. They seemed pretty serious. Either way I've always put the letters facing in since that day.

05-24-2003, 09:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
oats Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 5725	<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Nobody: I actually align the holes on each side of the bar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Its all your fault!! I was doing squats today and we have a mix of plates Standard and Iron Grip (the ones with hand holes) Well the rack was full of the Iron Grip. Before I realized what I was doing all the holes were lined up! Oats

05-24-2003, 11:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
Curious George Moderator and Future CRNA Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,462 Rep Power: 24479	I do the same thing Mr Nobody. My gym now has the rubber plated which I cannot stand. How I long for the sound of the metal clanging, but I digress. When I train at any other gyms, plates always face the flat side out and always same brand. A little OCD with all of us I presume? Take Good Care, Cg secure email curgeo@hushmail.com cg@cyber-rights.net

05-24-2003, 07:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	Letters in and holes lined up.. I didn't know there was any other way! Doggy

05-24-2003, 09:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Holden MacGroin, GW Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 92 Rep Power: 4255	Crap I feel weird. I usually do letters out. When I use the ones that look like Lifesaver candies with holes, I stagger them so the holes are not lined up. That way people can see how much weight I am doing if I go heavy, if they are lined up its hard to tell if its 225, 315 or 405. When my wife and I lift together, the lighter weights are usually on the inside. That way I do not have to strip as much weight off as we alternate sets. Lets say if she is squatting 275 and I am squatting 365 for a set, the bar might have two 45's inner most, then a 25 pounder, then another 45. I don't care if I mix brands, or even if it is not symmetrical and is slightly off balance. My original Jujutsu instructor use to lift weights on purpose with uneven amounts on each side so that he had to work on balance as he lifted - to get himself use to resistence against an alive opponant. For example, maybe 100 LBS on one side and 85 on the other. Because in grappling, you never push and pull with or against an even symmetrical force. But he did not lift for bb'ing, he lifted so he could throw people more effectively. Ever since then I am okay if it is unbalanced so that I have to also work balance as I lift.

05-26-2003, 05:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
granby140 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 4934	i usually lift home so everything is just the way i like it. letters in and same kind of plates Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated. __________________ Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated.

05-29-2003, 10:12 AM	#16 (permalink)
archive_Caligula Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,123 Rep Power: 9088	Have you ever shared say a bench press with someone and they have one plate facing in and the other one out. Doesn't that just make your eye start twitchin'! "That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger" Curious __________________ &quot;A mind is a terrible thing to waste...that&apos;s why Bush doesn&apos;t have one.&quot; &quot;The Harder you work, the harder it is to surrender&quot; Curious

05-29-2003, 12:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
The Thing Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 95 Rep Power: 5202	It just must be an Ironhead thing. I am also anal about same plates, facing in, and holes lined up. In fact one of my favorite gyms has plates that are octagonal so I can be sure they are lined up exactly. Is that crazy or what? Thing

05-29-2003, 05:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
archive_the truth Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 579 Rep Power: 6354	Standard plates facing in, and I also align the holes on the plates that have them. When I train with my girlfriend, we'll often put the lighter plates on the inside as well. Oh yeah--I mix and match, but only when I have to.

06-01-2003, 10:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
lil_killer Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 4127	<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Caligula: Have you ever shared say a bench press with someone and they have one plate facing in and the other one out. Doesn't that just make your eye start twitchin'! http://www.anabolicfitness.net/images/caligula.jpg "That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger" Curious<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> This is the way I HAVE to have my plates. First one facing in and all others facing out. That is the way they do them in powerlifting comps. so I'm a little anal about that.

06-01-2003, 03:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
_GEEZER_ Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 4414	Yep. Letters in. The plates facing different directions thing makes me a little edgy. I didn't know they do that in powerlifting comps, though. Interesting. Wonder if there's any specific reason? I have actually seen a lot of wheels that were really 44 pounds and said 44 right on them, though the majority are 45. I know Ivanko, York, Standard and Heavy metal are all 45 lbs. The beatings will continue until morale improves. __________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves.

06-01-2003, 03:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
udub Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 72 Rep Power: 5745	I don't care if there name in or out,in fact I'll mix and match weights long as it adds up to same amount per side.oh yeah almost forgot I sleep in my clothes as well.

06-03-2003, 09:02 AM	#22 (permalink)
lil_killer Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 4127	<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by _GEEZER_: Yep. Letters in. The plates facing different directions thing makes me a little edgy. I didn't know they do that in powerlifting comps, though. Interesting. Wonder if there's any specific reason? I have actually seen a lot of wheels that were really 44 pounds and said 44 right on them, though the majority are 45. I know Ivanko, York, Standard and Heavy metal are all 45 lbs. The beatings will continue until morale improves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I'm not sure what the reason behing this is, but it's almost ingrained in my head. I can't have unmatched plates either. I will carry 45's all over the gym just to have everything match.

06-03-2003, 09:34 AM	#23 (permalink)
archive_Mr. Nobody Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 11939	"the letters in" comes from the old plats. They have a rim on the side of the writing for ease of picking up.....so its more comfortable to carry them with the flat side towards your body.....then load up the same way...hence writing on the inside. Disclaimer: Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner. The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.

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