Piracetam (enantiomers and effictiveness)

archive_Flash · 04-20-2003, 01:04 PM

Is piracetam a chiral molecule? If yes, then which enantiomer is the (most) effective?

reason I ask is because kilosports is selling it by the kilo for 100. Thats a great deal, but almost too great. Would you trust those guys? oris there a good chance its a racemic and I'll have to double or triple my dose to see any effects?

archive_Flash · 04-22-2003, 06:29 PM

up

you

go

archive_Ulter · 04-22-2003, 08:54 PM

Ask Dr Macro.

archive_macrophage69alpha · 04-22-2003, 09:13 PM

it is not chiral..

however
1. piracetam powder tastes AWFUL.. it cannot be masked
2. no assay of material.. so??? though kilo usually is decent.

AF will soon have a piracetam based nootropic.. hopefully 2-4 wk..but likely 4-6wk one that potentates piracetam and also surpasses it.. considerably

MP

bigk376 · 04-22-2003, 09:25 PM

Damn, yall are really starting to churn some new products out, got anything else coming up in the near future???

archive_LuckyDog · 04-22-2003, 09:37 PM

Macro, please check the private topic board...Thanks.

LD

Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt.
-Col. R. I. Rees

DaMan · 04-22-2003, 11:24 PM

Macro,

Is Piracetam a supplement or a drug? I thought it was a drug while I was using it the last 8 years and now see sherwyns.com (in the USA) selling it OTC...

archive_macrophage69alpha · 04-22-2003, 11:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DaMan:
Macro,

Is Piracetam a supplement or a drug? I thought it was a drug while I was using it the last 8 years and now see sherwyns.com (in the USA) selling it OTC...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

its kind of a grey area.. sold alone.. it is technically probably NOT OK.. but sold as a base with other ingredients.. it probably is.. its under a strange compounding law..

however there are some that claim that it is naturally occuring, hence legal.. but that has not been evaluated either way...

MP

DaMan · 04-23-2003, 12:35 PM

well you know what to do when the product is ready. i'm tired of ordering my stuff overseas, let alone talking to the "fuck off, you're only a customer"-dept at Sherwyns.

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archive_Flash Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,683 Rep Power: 7050	Piracetam (enantiomers and effictiveness) Is piracetam a chiral molecule? If yes, then which enantiomer is the (most) effective? reason I ask is because kilosports is selling it by the kilo for 100. Thats a great deal, but almost too great. Would you trust those guys? oris there a good chance its a racemic and I'll have to double or triple my dose to see any effects? __________________ SELF ASSEMBLY REQUIRED

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archive_Ulter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 15,388 Rep Power: 21906	Ask Dr Macro. __________________

04-22-2003, 09:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
archive_macrophage69alpha Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,101 Rep Power: 7020	it is not chiral.. however 1. piracetam powder tastes AWFUL.. it cannot be masked 2. no assay of material.. so??? though kilo usually is decent. AF will soon have a piracetam based nootropic.. hopefully 2-4 wk..but likely 4-6wk one that potentates piracetam and also surpasses it.. considerably MP __________________ MP

04-22-2003, 09:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
archive_LuckyDog Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 809 Rep Power: 6772	Macro, please check the private topic board...Thanks. LD Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt. -Col. R. I. Rees __________________ &quot;Only average athletes, those that are far from excellent prepare with average methods. A Champion is not average, but exceptional.&quot; ~Vladimir Zatsiorsky

04-22-2003, 09:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigk376 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 140 Rep Power: 4825	Damn, yall are really starting to churn some new products out, got anything else coming up in the near future???

04-22-2003, 11:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
DaMan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 735 Rep Power: 6156	Macro, Is Piracetam a supplement or a drug? I thought it was a drug while I was using it the last 8 years and now see sherwyns.com (in the USA) selling it OTC...

04-22-2003, 11:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
archive_macrophage69alpha Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,101 Rep Power: 7020	<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DaMan: Macro, Is Piracetam a supplement or a drug? I thought it was a drug while I was using it the last 8 years and now see sherwyns.com (in the USA) selling it OTC...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> its kind of a grey area.. sold alone.. it is technically probably NOT OK.. but sold as a base with other ingredients.. it probably is.. its under a strange compounding law.. however there are some that claim that it is naturally occuring, hence legal.. but that has not been evaluated either way... MP __________________ MP

04-23-2003, 12:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
DaMan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 735 Rep Power: 6156	well you know what to do when the product is ready. i'm tired of ordering my stuff overseas, let alone talking to the "fuck off, you're only a customer"-dept at Sherwyns.

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