WAXY MAIZE/PROTEIN ?

saiyanjin · 03-13-2008, 03:39 PM

just got some waxy maize starch. on the jug it says use 1-2 scoops pre workout, and 1-2 scoops post workout. can i have some incite on how people use this most effectively? thank you.

also have a ? about protein. how do i make it slow release into my body (shake before i goto bed). i am tired of buying casein protein. does fish oil do this? thanks for the posts.

JG1 · 03-13-2008, 04:54 PM

I use it like this:

Preworkout, right before my first set, approx 30g WM and 3 scoops Extend (BCAA's)

PWO, right after last set, 75g WM, 3 scoops Extend.

20 minutes after that, whey isolate.

60 minutes after whey isolate, chicken and yams.

I wouldn't mix your protein powder w/ the WM as it will slow the WM down too much and defeat the purpose. Take it by itself or w/ some BCAA's

saiyanjin · 03-13-2008, 04:58 PM

i see, what is extend bcaa's? i have amino acid pills.

saiyanjin · 03-13-2008, 05:01 PM

i have beverly nutrition amino acid tablets. only 3 of them are branch chain.

JG1 · 03-13-2008, 06:13 PM

Scivation Extend. It's a BCAA drink.

Scivation Xtend

3 scoops is about 10g BCAA's

saiyanjin · 03-13-2008, 06:18 PM

jg1, is that site the cheapest uve seen for this stuff?

Iron Island · 03-13-2008, 08:37 PM

Here is what I do...

Pre

25g whey protein
1 1/2 - 2 scoops waxy maize

During

Gatorade with 10g BCAA's

Post

25g whey
2 scoops waxy maize

saiyanjin · 03-14-2008, 01:22 PM

wow this stuff worked amazing

i cant believe how energized i was during my workout.

one of the best supplements i have ever taken.

JG1 · 03-14-2008, 02:25 PM

yeah netrition is pretty cheap for the Xtend...it's really good stuff.

usapitbullz · 03-14-2008, 08:03 PM

you can get bulk WMS at Nutraplanet.

JG1 · 03-15-2008, 07:27 AM

This is the WM I use.

Not a bad price

Primaforce Carb Slam Waxy Maize Starch

Iron Island · 03-15-2008, 07:38 AM

I use trueprotein.com for my waxy maize.

neo22 · 03-15-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG1

I wouldn't mix your protein powder w/ the WM as it will slow the WM down too much and defeat the purpose. Take it by itself or w/ some BCAA's

That makes absolutely no sense. Why would a large supplement company like ON make a product known as recovery that includes two types of protein along with WMS etc... You want to take them together.

Mols · 03-15-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Island

I use trueprotein.com for my waxy maize.

me too!

Mols · 03-15-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo22

That makes absolutely no sense. Why would a large supplement company like ON make a product known as recovery that includes two types of protein along with WMS etc... You want to take them together.

you ideally wanna take the WMS immediately PWO and then protein about 15-20 min. after

JG1 · 03-15-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo22

That makes absolutely no sense. Why would a large supplement company like ON make a product known as recovery that includes two types of protein along with WMS etc... You want to take them together.

read up on it bro.

JG1 · 03-15-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mols

you ideally wanna take the WMS immediately PWO and then protein about 15-20 min. after

Iron Island · 03-15-2008, 03:36 PM

Read about Justin Harris. He was one of the guys who said to take the WM then protein.

I have tried both ways over the last 2 years or so and I did not notice a differece.

andrew_plamondon · 03-16-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo22

That makes absolutely no sense. Why would a large supplement company like ON make a product known as recovery that includes two types of protein along with WMS etc... You want to take them together.

The major benefit of WM is its low molecular weight which is negated when mixed with anything else. Some people still find it's easily digested though so they take it that way anyway.
I don't think that WM is magical either way.

03-13-2008, 03:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
saiyanjin Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the backwoods. Posts: 464 Rep Power: 10501	WAXY MAIZE/PROTEIN ? just got some waxy maize starch. on the jug it says use 1-2 scoops pre workout, and 1-2 scoops post workout. can i have some incite on how people use this most effectively? thank you. also have a ? about protein. how do i make it slow release into my body (shake before i goto bed). i am tired of buying casein protein. does fish oil do this? thanks for the posts.

03-13-2008, 04:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
JG1 Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Chum Bucket Posts: 2,728 Rep Power: 114970	I use it like this: Preworkout, right before my first set, approx 30g WM and 3 scoops Extend (BCAA's) PWO, right after last set, 75g WM, 3 scoops Extend. 20 minutes after that, whey isolate. 60 minutes after whey isolate, chicken and yams. I wouldn't mix your protein powder w/ the WM as it will slow the WM down too much and defeat the purpose. Take it by itself or w/ some BCAA's

03-13-2008, 04:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
saiyanjin Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the backwoods. Posts: 464 Rep Power: 10501	i see, what is extend bcaa's? i have amino acid pills.

03-13-2008, 05:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
saiyanjin Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the backwoods. Posts: 464 Rep Power: 10501	i have beverly nutrition amino acid tablets. only 3 of them are branch chain.

03-13-2008, 06:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
JG1 Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Chum Bucket Posts: 2,728 Rep Power: 114970	Scivation Extend. It's a BCAA drink. Scivation Xtend 3 scoops is about 10g BCAA's

03-13-2008, 06:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
saiyanjin Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the backwoods. Posts: 464 Rep Power: 10501	jg1, is that site the cheapest uve seen for this stuff?

03-13-2008, 08:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
Iron Island Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,033 Rep Power: 49461	Here is what I do... Pre 25g whey protein 1 1/2 - 2 scoops waxy maize During Gatorade with 10g BCAA's Post 25g whey 2 scoops waxy maize

03-14-2008, 01:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
saiyanjin Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the backwoods. Posts: 464 Rep Power: 10501	wow this stuff worked amazing i cant believe how energized i was during my workout. one of the best supplements i have ever taken.

03-14-2008, 02:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
JG1 Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Chum Bucket Posts: 2,728 Rep Power: 114970	yeah netrition is pretty cheap for the Xtend...it's really good stuff.

03-14-2008, 08:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
usapitbullz Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ask Toto Posts: 310 Rep Power: 10592	you can get bulk WMS at Nutraplanet.

03-15-2008, 07:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
JG1 Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Chum Bucket Posts: 2,728 Rep Power: 114970	This is the WM I use. Not a bad price Primaforce Carb Slam Waxy Maize Starch

03-15-2008, 07:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
Iron Island Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,033 Rep Power: 49461	I use trueprotein.com for my waxy maize.

03-15-2008, 03:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
Iron Island Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,033 Rep Power: 49461	Read about Justin Harris. He was one of the guys who said to take the WM then protein. I have tried both ways over the last 2 years or so and I did not notice a differece.