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Old 03-13-2008, 09:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Critique My Diet/Supps/Way of Life, whatever you want to call it. Please.

Kind of getting back into the training after about a year off. Training is solid at three days a week. The following is my daily typical diet:

Wake 7:00 A.M. 2 caps T-rex. (should be doing cardio, but I keep rolling over)

Breakfast: 7:45 A.M.
2 whole eggs 1/2 cup of egg beaters scrambled.
5 pieces of turkey bacon.
2 cups of 2% milk.
fish oil caps, 1 gluc, 1 seas.

Lunch: 12:15 P.M. 1 gluc, 1 seas.
Large chicken breast
2 cups mixed veggies (frozen)

5:30 off work 10 red blast 2 tsp beta a, 1 t-rex on way to gym.
6:00-7:00 train (every other day)
7:00 2 scoops protein 2 tsp beta a, immediately after training leaving gym.

Dinner 8:00 P.M. 1 gluc, 1 seas.
Something that had parents haha I love that! Usually aim for 75-100 grams and I mix it up: turkey, salmon, steak, tuna, shrimp, chicken, venison the list goes on, I'll eat anything.
1 cup or so of cottage cheese.
about 2 cups of fresh spinach leaves with a little light Italian dressing.
I love my beer. Busch Heavy.

Normally in bed by 11:00

Now, I realize I should be eating more smaller meals; but I sit at a desk ALL day long. Once in a while I will add a shake before bed, I guess I'm hope the morning dose of t-rex will keep my metabolism up. I have been pretty strict with this for about a month or so, minus the A.M. cardio (I know I have to get up and DO IT!) and have seen ok results. This is pretty straightforward Mon-Fri every week. Sat and Sun see different more kind of cheat meals still lower carbs and lots of protein. I usually up my seas and gluc over the weekend. So, if you took the time to read all that, suggestions? Criticism? Thanks guys, love the board.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What is your bodyweight, age, bodyfat% and what are your goals?
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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whatever your goals, I drop the beer (assuming its a regular thing). keep it to the weekends or special events
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What is your bodyweight, age, bodyfat% and what are your goals?
Thanks Ray.

6'5" ~260, 23, probably ~20% at least as far as goals, probably the same as everyone else. Get bigger, leaner and stronger.

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which one of those is your primary goal?
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Ok, cut out the beer. No carbs for the first 4 hours and last 4 hours of the day. Add some gatoraid to your post workout drink. Add in a low cal protein bar or shake in between lunch and workout. Maybe some whey, 1 apple and a few almonds. Start with your morning cardio and you'll be golden!!
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Hi there! Im going to off you some initial feedback in RED until you can list your stats per BDR's post.

BTW I hope you don't smoke, Smoker.
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Kind of getting back into the training after about a year off. Training is solid at three days a week. The following is my daily typical diet:

Wake 7:00 A.M. 2 caps T-rex. You are BRAVE taking this on empty, how DO you do it! (should be doing cardio, but I keep rolling over)

Breakfast: 7:45 A.M.
2 whole eggs 1/2 cup of egg beaters scrambled.
5 pieces of turkey bacon.
2 cups of 2% milk.
fish oil caps, 1 gluc, 1 seas.
this looks fine to me to start. What are cals on the Milk and the Sodium/fat on the bacon, these can be minimized or taken out down the line if you feel you need to trim some things up. I would probably go 1 C beaters + 1 or 2 whole eggs, but that's just what I do.


Lunch: 12:15 P.M. 1 gluc, 1 seas.
Large chicken breast
2 cups mixed veggies (frozen)
Id bump this to about 1045 11 am . A healthy mix of veggies is good. again another place to trim down and focus on only green veggies down the road, no reason to limit them now. I may add a fat here If i were you.
If you are not preparing the chicken yourself watch what this is cooked in.

*** need a meal before your workout *** or perhaps around 3
quick meal ideas, You can eat some peanut butter, walnuts/almonds, with a protein shake, those starkist packets of tuna, you need to be eating every 2-3 hours regardless.


5:30 off work 10 red blast 2 tsp beta a, 1 t-rex on way to gym.
6:00-7:00 train (every other day)
7:00 2 scoops protein 2 tsp beta a, immediately after training leaving gym.
^^ good
Dinner 8:00 P.M. 1 gluc, 1 seas.
Something that had parents haha I love that! Usually aim for 75-100 grams and I mix it up: turkey, salmon, steak, tuna, shrimp, chicken, venison the list goes on, I'll eat anything.
1 cup or so of cottage cheese.
about 2 cups of fresh spinach leaves with a little light Italian dressing.
I love my beer. Busch Heavy.
Beer, are you serious? No beer... lol
keep that to a minimum. Your body will not burn ANY fat it's trying to clear out alcohol from your system.


Normally in bed by 11:00

Now, I realize I should be eating more smaller meals; but I sit at a desk ALL day long.

so do i and I eat about 4-5 x at the office. No excuses
Once in a while I will add a shake before bed, I guess I'm hope the morning dose of t-rex will keep my metabolism up. I have been pretty strict with this for about a month or so, minus the A.M. cardio (I know I have to get up and DO IT!) and have seen ok results. This is pretty straightforward Mon-Fri every week. Sat and Sun see different more kind of cheat meals still lower carbs and lots of protein.
I would suggest, and i NEVER recommend cheat days, that if you cannot go 6 days eating clean with one cheat meal, then i would shoot for 6 days clean one day off. Eventually you will probably see the heinous nature of large cheats holding back your progress, or simply making you feel like complete crap the following 2-3 days and decide to limit them on your own. IMO we all go through this in one form or another.

usually up my seas and gluc over the weekend. So, if you took the time to read all that, suggestions? Criticism? Thanks guys, love the board.
SO, after that I would say make it a point to eat SOMETHING every 2-3 hours. You can do
Meal 1 8am
Meal 2 11am
Meal 3 2pm
Meal 4 5pm (pre workout)
Meal 5 7pm (post workout shake)
Meal 6 Wait at least an hour to two then have your final meal and off to bed you go.



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Ok, cut out the beer. No carbs for the first 4 hours and last 4 hours of the day. Add some gatoraid to your post workout drink. Add in a low cal protein bar or shake in between lunch and workout. Maybe some whey, 1 apple and a few almonds. Start with your morning cardio and you'll be golden!!

Thanks, I can add in those items, that's easy. Appreciate it.
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Hi there! Im going to off you some initial feedback in RED until you can list your stats per BDR's post.

BTW I hope you don't smoke, Smoker.
Welcome to the board.

-Definatly don't smoke, just an old screen name from car boards that stuck.
-Haven't actually done the t-rex on an empty stomach yet, was using a different thermo. Will be ordering up a some t-rex with some other things I'm out of next paycheck.
-I knew everyone would say throw the beer. Figured I'd be honest on the all aspects of the diet though.
-I think I can handle adding in some smaller meals between my main staples now.

Appreciate the help. Thanks.
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Ok, cut out the beer. No carbs for the first 4 hours and last 4 hours of the day. Add some gatoraid to your post workout drink. Add in a low cal protein bar or shake in between lunch and workout. Maybe some whey, 1 apple and a few almonds. Start with your morning cardio and you'll be golden!!
OK besides what I said, I agree here too.

Smoker, for OPTIMAL FAT BURNING that is the reason for the limiting carbs upon waking and before bed. A window of roughly 4-6 hours.

Granny smith apple & all natural PB or (fat source, almonds walnuts) good call, quick meal.

When you start eating better you begin to develop a healthy lifestyle, you have to make a few changes to accommodate that lifestyle and your new goals. Preparing meals goes hand in hand with this.

Often referred to as the Sunday Ritual, Ill take a few lbs of chicken or lean steak and cook it for the week so I have no excuses to 'grab something on the fly" or not have something sitting in the fridge when Im hungry.

I broil or bake my chicken so I just line a pan, brush extra virgin olive oil on it, add Mrs Dash seasoning (salt & MSG free) and stick in the oven for 30-45 min. I can watch TV and not have to worry about flipping the MEAT!



I agree on getting on the AM cardio in so you can have your day unfold to nail down your meal times.

No beer.

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Busch??

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No beer.

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Busch??


This will be the hardest part. I don't know how some of you guys can't drink beer. Oh and Busch is at least 5 bucks cheaper a case around here then Budweiser or any other heavy beer. That's another bag of chicken, I've learned to love it.
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This will be the hardest part. I don't know how some of you guys can't drink beer. Oh and Busch is at least 5 bucks cheaper a case around here then Budweiser or any other heavy beer. That's another bag of chicken, I've learned to love it.
My mom is all about the Busch (head OUT of gutter you KNOW who you are)

I have it in my fridge for when she comes over and I just laugh, dont ask.

Im a Vodka, Bourbon or Wine Junkie should I choose to partake.
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So this no carbs after waking up - what is the limit here besides no carbs? I've heard minimum amount and also none. What should you keep them underfurst thing?
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