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Old 01-10-2003, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been on fina for eight weeks, I actually managed to stay ripped through the holidays (a first for me), but as usual, I am once again losing function sexually. I don't really mind crashed all that much, but for kicks and learning, I am switching to a simple regimen. Input is appreciated...my goals are the same--freaky ripped at maybe two, three more pounds over the next year. This year my fighting weight seems to be around 173, so you can chart my muscular gains at about 2 pounds per year. How's that for slow? But dense...yesindeedy.

Anyway, I am going on test prop, say, 300mg/week and anavar at 40mg/day for three months, then I will do some bloodwork to determine whether or not I will stop, and if not, I will go for another three months and repeat. At that time I will assess the situation and report. I will incorporate aromasin throughout.

I expect wicked, consistent strength. My diet will be clean for the entire time, so I expect to get even denser, and I will try to achieve a Stallone type density as brandished in the movie "The Specialist"...something along those lines.

I am thirty five years old, so muscle maturity is pretty much complete.

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Old 01-10-2003, 12:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would throw EQ in there @ 400mg a week. Prop and EQ together always gives me great stength and an awsome look. Also, EQ, in my opinion, is one of the few drugs that gets better the longer you use it.

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I think Arnold said that the maximum lean retainable gain you can make in a year was two pounds, so by that reckonong you're doing OK.

Why are you going for aromasin and not arimidex? Is it a cost issue or do you think it works better? Also how much will you be taking for those fairly low doses of AS?

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If you have health insurance and it covers Oxandrin, get a script for it. In my experience it's been the only oxandrolone that did shit for me.

BTW why ox over winny? (not questioning you, I'm curious - you have more experience with winny than I do)
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Looks like a fun cycle.
Why not stay on the Tren, though? You are going to restore sexual function with the test prop, and you'll have to shoot just as frequently anyway...hell...there's still gonna be room in that syringe for some tren.

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You'll like the prop/anavar.
You didn't mention the P7, which is great for tren cycles. Have you started using it yet?
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thats alot of Anavar. We might have to change your name to $$Fukkenloaded$$. LOL.

Are you thinking of alternating that Var with Zambon's or Fina? reason I ask is because Ive been looking at some backlogs of my previous cycles and it seems for me, most of the gear I've used kinda loses effect after 8 weeks, whether fat loss or muscle gain. Just a thought.

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Ulter...I haven't been by my mailbox yet, as I have been out of town on work. Keeping the tren alongside has been a consideration, because I think tren really starts showing around the tenth week, sort of like eq. Also, I do not think that there are any significant health risks with extended tren cycles, so long as they are intelligently executed.

Aromisin is what is sitting here. Arimidex gets a bit pricey, and the difference at such a low test dose does not justify the cost in my mind. Besides, I will need the cash for the ox, which is also pretty expensive. My insurance plan does not cover ox, unfortunately, although they will cover the test. I'm arguing the point with them, though.

As for winny--I think I have to hang that stuff up. It just wreaks havoc on my liver, regardless of ancillaries. Tyler's seems to reduce the degree of damage, but it does not negate the negative impact, and I think that at my point of leanness any of these other hardeners will be just fine. I am also curious about the effect, cosmetically speaking, of an extended anavar cycle with tren somewhere in the mix.

Eq...well, I have posted my take on eq. I once did it at around 600mg/week for about six months. I got the same result from six weeks of winstrol, and the winstrol changes stuck with me better. Eq made me nervous, and I got terrible headaches.

I actually think that tren is the refined eq in terms of real world results. Four or five weeks of tren yields the results of twice or three times the time on eq. The drawback of tren is that the look vanishes very quickly upon cessation, and this is yet another reason why I am turning my attentions to the var.

Test is there now because I am coming to the age where I will need to supplement it, especially since tren has lowered my test levels significantly.

BTW, this, I think, is the reason that some folks do not experience those dramatic strength gains from tren that the rest of us do...their test levels get too low too fast. Also, testosterone binds less effectively to the receptor once tren has been introduced, even after it is stopped. So I am gonna jump up on a replacement dose plus a tad of strength and see what happens.

Thanks for the input, folks.
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