Question For Ulter and Mr. Nobody.....300mg test/week

[MONSTROSITY]

Ulter,
When you use 300mg of test/week, do you inject once per week or twice?

Also, do you run 1mg of arimidex with this dose?

I was thinking of injecting 250mg of cyp every 5 days.

Mr. N,
A friend of mine gets test gel/cream from a local pharamacy. It is compounded at the pharmacy so it is different from the popular andro-gel. My question is how many mgs. of this topical cream do you think I would need to emulate the blood levels I would get from 400mg/week of test cyp?

Ulter,
Have you ever tried a topical/cream or gel prep of test? My friend was using 1000mgs. of testosterone cream and he didn't feel a big kick.

[This message was edited by MONSTROSITY on 12-07-2002 at 10:35 PM.]

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Monstro,

You would be using the 500mg every ten days as a
replacement dose year round?

Doggy

[MONSTROSITY]

Doggy,
No I am only 28 yrs old and I will probably make massive quantities of rug rats sometime down the road. So with that in mind, I like to come off for about 6 weeks following a 8-10 week cycle. During that time off, I use ***/clomid for the first 10 days, and deprenyl at 2.5mg EOD(I feel this helps imensely). I will also use MACA and sometimes creatine during this 6 weeks. I have had my LH checked and 6 weeks off with the aforementioned regime seems to get things up and running just fine.

I am inquiring about the 300-400 mg of test a week b/c I might run a 10 week cycle of that and maybe 15-20mg of oxandrin, and then this will lead right into my pre-comp cycle. So I still plan on coming off, but I like the idea of a light cycle where the emphasis is forced on the training and diet, not on huge piles of AS. Your body also doesn't a take beating from sides. Steady gains is the goal, slow but steady.

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[archive_Mr. Nobody]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Mr. N,
A friend of mine gets test gel/cream from a local pharamacy. It is compounded at the pharmacy so it is different from the popular andro-gel. My question is how many mgs. of this topical cream do you think I would need to emulate the blood levels I would get from 400mg/week of test cyp?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

absorption is contingent to many factors:
let me just bring up a couple:
no swimming/bathing for 5 hours after application
application sites to be preferred are forearm, wrist, neck and similar places with thin skin and plenty circulation. Shaving body hair is important as well.
application as prescribed by androgel (shoulder, upper arm and abdomen) only yield 10% uptake
application as described above should yield more (maybe up to 50%). I know that my daily 50mg plus 10mg morning dbol "feel" more like 200mg per week.
use of capsicum, aloe, aspercream will enhance skin penetration
use of yohimburn might be another interesting option
use of phlogel might cause too rapid of an absorption, resulting in higher estrogen and greater HPTA impact

The reason I chose androgel is to have minimal HPTA impact while still receiveing enough test for optimal treatment. If you are after 400mg per week, you will need propably 150mg of test applied per day as outlined above. That amount will supress your endogenous testosterone production for sure and will require a watch for estrogen related side effects and corresponding preventative measures.

Disclaimer:
Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advice.

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[archive_Ulter]

225mg E5D is what I use. I tried gel 5-6 years ago and it did little or nothing in terms of gains but I could "feel" it.

[MONSTROSITY]

Ulter,
are using any arimidex at that dose (300mg/wk)?

[archive_Ulter]

1mg/day