Safest steroid for lipid profile

wiseuser · 11-03-2002, 02:37 PM

Is there a steroid that has minimal affect on the lipid profile? My last check up was done after week 4 on the insistance of my doc and my lipid profile was TERRIBLE with an hdl to total cholesterol ration of 15 to 1!!!!!!!!! My doc had a COW to say the least!
I was on test 750 per week and tren 75 per day.

Perhas the lipid profile is affected more so by higher doses of any steroid and especially the highly androgenic ones...I don't know.

I do know that the 17aa roids are the worst but what is the best?

My gut tells me that it is probably the mild androgens nandrolone or primo and with that in mind I was thinking about doing a moderate deca/proviron stack.

Fonz · 11-03-2002, 02:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wiseuser:
Is there a steroid that has minimal affect on the lipid profile? My last check up was done after week 4 on the insistance of my doc and my lipid profile was TERRIBLE with an hdl to total cholesterol ration of 15 to 1!!!!!!!!! My doc had a COW to say the least!
I was on test 750 per week and tren 75 per day.

Perhas the lipid profile is affected more so by higher doses of any steroid and especially the highly androgenic ones...I don't know.

I do know that the 17aa roids are the worst but what is the best?

My gut tells me that it is probably the mild androgens nandrolone or primo and with that in mind I was thinking about doing a moderate deca/proviron stack.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damn.

I shudder to think what mine are.

What I do know is that Winny is the WORST
of them all.

Fonz

No Pain....No Gain.....No Spain

----Barcelona 1992

wiseuser · 11-03-2002, 02:56 PM

Yep winny is the worst that I do know.

archive_TonyDelk · 11-03-2002, 08:44 PM

Biochemical individuality--- brothers....the ultimate determinant...

Ox elevates my lipid panels far worse than Winny....But lipid levels can be controlled for most people....

Consume a lot of EFA's,use Tyler Detox and Tyler Lipotropics, avoid simple sugars and transfats like the plague...avoid alcohol in much the same way. Keep vascular networks flowing with quality cardio and high intensity lifting, try to avoid stress and smile a lot. Also make sure to get homeocysteine levels checked. Sometimes they are a better indication than cholesterol profiles.

Good luck.

TD

wiseuser · 11-03-2002, 09:56 PM

I did all that and even took niacin and I still had a very bad hdl and high ldl.

SteelPreacher · 11-04-2002, 09:22 AM

Try nolvadex

Don't be fooled by the muscles that I got, I'm still, I'm still Preacher from the block! I used to have a little now I have a lot, but I still know where I came from! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

archive_Cyp · 11-04-2002, 10:30 AM

When your on Sauce your Lipid Profile is going to be way out of wack.....Its not accurate, when you come off you will normalize....If this was a true reading you would be reading about BB's Dropping like Flys....Your bodies readings are very SENSITIVE.....

archive_TonyDelk · 11-04-2002, 04:10 PM

I've spoken with a few cardiologists very recently who seemed to indicate cholesterol levels aren't the biggest determinant with regard to potential vascular problems. Cholesterol is sometimes genetically problematic(with regard to reading levels). My mother is sedentary and obese and has amazingly low lipid values. My father is in amazing shape at 58(former professional athlete)he doesn't drink, smoke or eat poorly(he isn't on the sauce)and his lipid levels are double my moms.

I wouldn't get too worried. My levels which always go up while on, come down within 3 weeks of discontinuance.

As Rakim said...."Don't sweat the technique"..;-)

TD

11-03-2002, 02:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
wiseuser Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 5215	Safest steroid for lipid profile Is there a steroid that has minimal affect on the lipid profile? My last check up was done after week 4 on the insistance of my doc and my lipid profile was TERRIBLE with an hdl to total cholesterol ration of 15 to 1!!!!!!!!! My doc had a COW to say the least! I was on test 750 per week and tren 75 per day. Perhas the lipid profile is affected more so by higher doses of any steroid and especially the highly androgenic ones...I don't know. I do know that the 17aa roids are the worst but what is the best? My gut tells me that it is probably the mild androgens nandrolone or primo and with that in mind I was thinking about doing a moderate deca/proviron stack.

11-03-2002, 02:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fonz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,857 Rep Power: 7624	<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wiseuser: Is there a steroid that has minimal affect on the lipid profile? My last check up was done after week 4 on the insistance of my doc and my lipid profile was TERRIBLE with an hdl to total cholesterol ration of 15 to 1!!!!!!!!! My doc had a COW to say the least! I was on test 750 per week and tren 75 per day. Perhas the lipid profile is affected more so by higher doses of any steroid and especially the highly androgenic ones...I don't know. I do know that the 17aa roids are the worst but what is the best? My gut tells me that it is probably the mild androgens nandrolone or primo and with that in mind I was thinking about doing a moderate deca/proviron stack.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Damn. I shudder to think what mine are. What I do know is that Winny is the WORST of them all. Fonz No Pain....No Gain.....No Spain ----Barcelona 1992 __________________ &quot;Great minds talk about ideas, average minds talk about facts, and weak minds talk about people&quot; ---- Fonz 6/2002

11-04-2002, 09:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
SteelPreacher Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,091 Rep Power: 5936	Try nolvadex Don't be fooled by the muscles that I got, I'm still, I'm still Preacher from the block! I used to have a little now I have a lot, but I still know where I came from! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] __________________ I can make you a celebrity overnight. Winners see problems as just another way to prove themselves! D.T.

11-04-2002, 04:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
archive_TonyDelk Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 749 Rep Power: 6714	You're right Cyp.... I've spoken with a few cardiologists very recently who seemed to indicate cholesterol levels aren't the biggest determinant with regard to potential vascular problems. Cholesterol is sometimes genetically problematic(with regard to reading levels). My mother is sedentary and obese and has amazingly low lipid values. My father is in amazing shape at 58(former professional athlete)he doesn't drink, smoke or eat poorly(he isn't on the sauce)and his lipid levels are double my moms. I wouldn't get too worried. My levels which always go up while on, come down within 3 weeks of discontinuance. As Rakim said...."Don't sweat the technique"..;-) TD __________________ “One Begins to Mistrust Clever People when Embarrassed by their Presence” Friedrich Nietzsche

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11-03-2002, 02:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
wiseuser Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 5215	Yep winny is the worst that I do know.

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wiseuser Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 5215	I did all that and even took niacin and I still had a very bad hdl and high ldl.

11-04-2002, 10:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
archive_Cyp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 786 Rep Power: 6069	When your on Sauce your Lipid Profile is going to be way out of wack.....Its not accurate, when you come off you will normalize....If this was a true reading you would be reading about BB's Dropping like Flys....Your bodies readings are very SENSITIVE.....

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