liver tests results while on ph cycle of 1-ad and 19-nor

[djremix]

where i had a blood test, and i have had to have it while on my 3rd week of this stack.

i am not surprised the liver values are above normal, but i am unsure how high should i start worrying or if these are normal while on this stack?

age 27 (full details of stack)
HERE from bb.com

test results:

Glutamic pyruvate transaminase serum : 3.11 ukat/l - 186 u/l
normal range : upto 0.67 ukat/l - upto 40 u/l

Glutamic oxalate transaminase serum : 1.69 ukat/l - 101 u/l
normal range : upto : 0.62 ukat/l - upto 37 u/l

alkaline phosphatase serum : 1.7 (normal 1.67 - 4.84)
gamma-glutamyl transferase serum : 0.33 ukat/l - 20 u/l
normal range : 0.15 to 0.65 ukat/l - 9 to 40 u/l

all other values were normal except for low hdl and a high hdl / total cholesterol value.

i realise that this is quite technical, but since i am sure the increase is from the ph i would just like to put my mind at ease?

I also know almost everyone here is against ph, but for me aas is a definite no no(at least for a couple more years) and a lot of friends have gotten decent results from ph. even i have noticed very good strength increases, so please no flames [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

thanks!

remix!

[archive_Ulter]

No one should flame you for using ph if you know what it is, what the sides can be, what the results can be, etc., and you still want to use it. That's your perogative.

As far as the results go you'll probably have to wait until tomorrow when the doctors on this board come on.

[Fonz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by djremix:
where i had a blood test, and i have had to have it while on my 3rd week of this stack.

i am not surprised the liver values are above normal, but i am unsure how high should i start worrying or if these are normal while on this stack?

age 27 (full details of stack)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...&postid=738373

test results:

Glutamic pyruvate transaminase serum : 3.11 ukat/l - 186 u/l
normal range : upto 0.67 ukat/l - upto 40 u/l

Glutamic oxalate transaminase serum : 1.69 ukat/l - 101 u/l
normal range : upto : 0.62 ukat/l - upto 37 u/l

alkaline phosphatase serum : 1.7 (normal 1.67 - 4.84)
gamma-glutamyl transferase serum : 0.33 ukat/l - 20 u/l
normal range : 0.15 to 0.65 ukat/l - 9 to 40 u/l

all other values were normal except for low hdl and a high hdl / total cholesterol value.

i realise that this is quite technical, but since i am sure the increase is from the ph i would just like to put my mind at ease?

I also know almost everyone here is against ph, but for me aas is a definite no no(at least for a couple more years) and a lot of friends have gotten decent results from ph. even i have noticed very good strength increases, so please no flames [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

thanks!

remix!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That looks fine. But elevated.

You also have to take into account that weight training induces muscle damage which can elevate liver values in by itself.

Fonz

No Pain....No Gain.....No Spain

----Barcelona 1992

[This message was edited by Fonz on 11-07-2002 at 08:39 AM.]

[djremix]

thanks fonz,
im redoing the liver test 2 weeks after my cycle ends. or should i wait?
as ill be trying 6-OXO (ergopharm) for 20 days after last dose of 1-ad and 19-nor.?

remix!

[Fonz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by djremix:
thanks fonz,
im redoing the liver test 2 weeks after my cycle ends. or should i wait?
as ill be trying 6-OXO (ergopharm) for 20 days after last dose of 1-ad and 19-nor.?

remix!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The ranges are wrong btw for SGOT and SGPT.

It should be 2-50 for SGOT and 2-60 for SGPT.

Yours are slightly elevated.

Re-do the liver test and take some supps.

ALA, NAC and Tylers.

Fonz

No Pain....No Gain.....No Spain

----Barcelona 1992

What country are you from? Those aren't USA lab reporting methods.

Anyway probably muscle metabolism increase resulting in elevated values as GGT, Alk phos are relatively normal. However liver problems can occur and still have normal GGT. Cholesterol is made in the liver for the most part so having the low HDL may be a result of liver stress from the ph. is there a family tendency for cholesterol problems?

[djremix]

thanks for the responces, i am from the middle east, dont have a clue wether the results are US standards or not.

anyone know if 6-OXO would affect these values?
if it does, then ill wait untill i finish with that aswell before redoing the test.

and my family does not have much of choleserol problems. my total cholesterol was 124.

remix!

[djremix]

just as a little update...
strength gains have been increasing every week.
now in middle of week 4 and weight is already up 14 pounds
started at 188 now 202. most of it looking lean mass.

i can post some more updates if anyone is interested?

remix!