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I have been on paxil for about a month and a half now. I started at 12.5 mg ed and I have been taking 25 mg ed for the past 2 weeks per my docs recommendation. I felt great at 12.5 but since I stepped the dose up I have felt like shit. I have been expiriencing nausea, increased anxiety and a serious case of the shits. Wondering if this has happened to anyone else. Would also like to know if anyone knows if it is a bad idea for me to cut my 25's in half and take myself back down to 12.5 mg ed.
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When I first used Paxil I felt terrible for the first few weeks. I was weak and tired feeling all the time. The side effects passed soon after. When my doc increased the dosage I had the same symptoms again but they went away same as before.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lift Or Die:
When I first used Paxil I felt terrible for the first few weeks. I was weak and tired feeling all the time. The side effects passed soon after. When my doc increased the dosage I had the same symptoms again but they went away same as before. I say just stick with it and see if the side effects wear off within the next week.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I experienced the exact same thing. Now when I take Paxil, I feel no different at all.
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Ive heard that Paxil causes a Dramtic Loss of Libido? Is there any validity to this, Ive been told by my MD that I should be on it, but the side effects are not worth it to me....I was on Zoloft last year, that shit made me feel great but I had NO SEX drive...I wonder if the two are similar?
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Cyp, if you suffered side effects from Zoloft then you'll probably have the same sides from Paxil. Both are SSRI's and work very similar. There are other options out there. Many people have had good success with Welbutrin and the side effects seem to be very low. Might be something to look into or talk to your doc about.
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paxil is one of the worst anidepressent you could use, my brother was on it for 2-years the sides were pretty bad, he got real lazy and fat and when you miss a dose you feel like shit. and then he tried to get off and he said it was like trying to get off crack the withdrols were bad.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects
Frequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Body as a Whole: Malaise (a vague feeling of bodily discomfort), pain. Cardiovascular: Hypertension, syncope (a sudden loss of strength, a temporary suspension of consciousness due to cerebral anemia), tachycardia (excessive rapidity in the action of the heart). Dermatological: Pruritus (Intense itching) Gastrointestinal: Nausea and vomiting. Metabolic and Nutritional: Weight gain, weight loss. Nervous System: Central Nervous System stimulation, concentration impaired, depression, emotional lability (emotional instability), vertigo (a hallucination of movement; a sensation as if the external world were revolving around the patient or as if he himself were revolving in space). Respiratory: Cough increased, rhinitis (inflammation of the mucus membrane of the nose). Less frequent - Paxil (Paroxetine) Side Effects Infrequent Paxil side effects occurred in at least 1 in 1000 people. Body as a Whole: Allergic reaction, chills, face edema (abnormal amount of fluid in the facial tissue), infection, moniliasis (infection caused by Candida (yeast like fungi), neck pain, overdose. Cardiovascular: Bradycardia (abnormal slowness of the heartbeat), conduction abnormalities (abnormal transfer of sound waves, heat, nerve influences, or electricity), ECG abnormal, hypotension (lowered blood pressure), migraine, ventricular extrasystoles (a premature contraction of the heart). Dermatological: Acne, alopecia (absence of hair from the body where it is normally present), dry skin, ecchymosis (blood under the skin, usually looks or appears like a bruise), eczema (an inflammatory skin disease characterized by lesions varying greatly in character, at times watery discharge and the development of scales and crust), furunculosis (a number of painful nodules formed in the skin, caused by bacteria, which enter through the hair follicles or glands, its formation is favored by digestive derangement and local irritation), herpes simplex, urticaria (reaction of the skin to certain drugs, marked by the appearance of smooth, slightly elevated patches, which are redder or paler than the surrounding skin and often includes severe itching). Gastrointestinal: Bruxism (grinding of the teeth especially during sleep), buccal cavity disorders (cavity running from the cheeks to the lips), dysphagia (inflammation of the esophagus), eructation (the act of belching or casting up wind from the stomach), gastroentertitis (inflammation of the stomach or intestines), gastrointestinal flu, glossitis (inflammation of the tongue), increased salivation, liver function test abnormal, mouth ulceration, vomiting and diarrhea, rectal hemorrhage. Hematologic and Lymphatic: Anemia, leukopenia (reduction in the number of leukocytes in the blood), lymphadenopathy (disease of the lymphnodes), purpura (condition charactized by the presence of blood just under the skin, can appear any where over the body), WBC abnormality (white blood cell abnormality). Musculoskeletal: Arthralgia (pain in the joint), arthritis, traumatic fracture. Nervous System: Akinesia (the temporary paralysis of a muscle, can include intense pain), alcohol abuse, amnesia, ataxia (failure of muscular coordination or irregularity of muscle action), convulsion, depersonalization, hallucinations, hyperkinesia (abnormally increased mobility, abnormally increased motor function or activity), hypertonia (a condition of excessive tone, tension or activity, can include increased blood pressure), incoordination, lack of emotion, manic reaction, paranoid reaction, thinking abnormal. Respiratory: Asthma, bronchitis, dyspnea (difficult or labored breathing), epistaxis (hemorrhage from the nose), hyperventilation, pneumonia, respiratory flu, sinusitis. Special Senses: Abnormality of accommodation, conjunctivitis, ear pain, eye pain, mydriasis (extreme or morbid dilation of the pupil), otitis media (inflammation of the ear which may be marked by pain, fever, abnormalities of hearing, deafness, tinnitus, and vertigo), tinnitus (a noise in the ear, as ringing, buzzing, roaring clicking etc). Urogenital: Abortion*, amenorrhea* (absence or abnormal stoppage of menses), breast pain*, cystitis (inflammation of the urinary bladder), dysmenorrhea* (painful menstruation), dysuria (painful or difficult urination), menorrhagia* (excessive uterine bleeding occurring at regular intervals), nocturia (excessive urination at night), polyuria (the passage of a large volume of urine in a given period), urinary incontinence, urinary retention, urinary tract infection, urinary urgency, vaginitis* (inflammation of the vagina). * Gender specific <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Don't be fooled by the muscles that I got, I'm still, I'm still Preacher from the block! I used to have a little now I have a lot, but I still know where I came from! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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From another site:<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The side effects listed below are from people that actually use or have used SSRI's.
If you are experiencing any of these side effects and have wondered if it was just you, you are not alone. Real SSRI Side Effects. Mind racing and unable to control thoughts and processes of the mind. Panic attacks worsening. Hot surges running through body. Horrible nightmares. Obsessive thoughts. (Going to lose it and kill somebody) Just can't seem to feel any more. Feeling like a zombie. Absolutely emotionless. Physically numb. Could not even feel the water hit my body in the shower. Lost all taste of food. Severe dizziness. Felt like going to pass out or lose control. Sleeping with light on because of the fear. Feel disconnected. Really drugged out most of the time. Heart palpitations and tightness in the head. Flashes of memories and images from the past. (Uncontrollable) Drugs have taken personal identity away, made feel unable to function like a normal human being. Completely lost grip and hate to go out and be around people. Don't even feel comfortable with family. Feeling like it will never end. Feeling foggy and drugged out. Urge to jump out of a fast moving car. Feeling like I need to take life to end all of this. Extreme head pain. More depressed than before starting SSRI's. Not sure will ever be your old self again. A feeling of unreality. Convinced of having some rare and fatal disease. Hormones go completely wild during menstruation. (Never happened before SSRI usage) fatigue and problem in hands (predominantly left) which has become less tremors, more pain and slight stiffness and is spreading up (left) arm and into shoulder. Head and body seem to feel detached from each other. Feeling like "in Hell." Can't go to see doctor or to the hospital because I am afraid they will prescribe more medication or put me in the mental ward. Bleeding from the nose, heavily. Nausea Feeling like electrical current is running up and down spine Memory loss with apathy In a fog, can't concentrate Nipple discharge Loss of sex drive Manic/depressive episodes Weight gain of over 40 pounds (List of side effects from one individual since starting SSRI's) Mind racing, nightmares, obsessive thoughts, can't "feel" anymore, zombie, disconnected, memory flashes, hate to be around people, feeling like it will never end, foggy, urge to jump out of fast moving car, more depressed, not sure will ever be old self again, feeling of unreality, numbness in pinky and ring finger on left hand and sever chills. Head jerking and muscle spasms Numbness in genitals Memory loss Loss of sexual drive Swelled penis Sudden and excessive weight gain Hating people, do not want to be around people anymore Tremors, sudden jerky movements of muscles, extreme sensitivity to sound Out of control, divorced husband that was loved and now can't even explain why. Hopeless Suicidal Inner restlessness Can't focus, hard to read words Worsening of acne Falling asleep at random times and not even remembering it (people telling the person this is happening) Can hardly stand to look at anything anymore Severe hot flashes while asleep Difficult having an orgasm Very aggressive dreams, dream of having battles with people from past Severe mood changes, tremors in hands more hyperactive Heavy sweating and electrical shocks that seem to come from within the side of the head Milky discharge from nipples and very hot flashes and sweating while asleep Can't seeeee comptur skrenn clearrlyyyy Breast are getting larger, nipples harder and sticking out about 1" and swelling Awake several nights of the week all night and have gained 30 pounds in less than one year Urge to drink excessively, never had this problem before. Feel like in pure hell, manic one moment, deeply depressed the next, severe headaches, sweating, nightmares, panic and fear Feet stay cold and can't seem to get them warm Have not had sex for over one year since starting Prozac Need for increased dose for same symptom, depression and severe cleaning compulsion are back and already at 100 mg daily of Prozac I quit, doing crazy things. On the way to work stopped and got a tattoo. Hate tattoos! Sleepy all of the time Dramatic weight loss Manic depression, numbness of body, tremors, racing thoughts, hot flashes, hallucinations, voices and echoes Excessive or "fake" happiness-not able to feel "normal" sadness or cry at all Feeling like an incomplete person without sexual feelings Feel like going to stop breathing Cold for hours after jogging Extremely paranoid, feeling like someone is standing outside of the shower with a knife-ready to kill me, constantly looking over my shoulder all of the time and jumping at every noise Muscle and joint pains Strange and vivid dreams with erratic sleep patterns Nightmares, flashbacks, severe night sweats and feel sense of unrest No emotion and brain twitches Felt like on a come down from acid for the whole time taking SSRI, saw tracers (shadows when things were moving) could not sleep, felt suicidal and more depressed than before Itchy, rashes on inside of legs, knees, under arms and back, hot sweats and flushes, very depressed, being very rude and short tempered Severe mood swings, angry most of the time and violent Lost everything Lost job dizziness and low blood sugar Just don't care anymore Flash anger, verbal aggression and uncontrolled bouts of swearing Pain in the lower left hand side of the stomach Sleeping A LOT (13 hours a night) Self mutilation Cutting self Tongue pain at night Ears ring all the time since I've been on Paxil Total inability to have an orgasm (I am female). This never happened to me before I took Prozac Breathing Difficulty Uncontrollable bouts of anger during which I can't even talk to anyone- totally overreacting to different situations. Delayed sleep pattern, 1 hour later each day, turning the clock around during one year Craving for sugar or protein or vitamin c Changing my mind every minute, completely paranoid Completely paralyzed by not knowing what to do or where I was going or what I can do when I feel like this Delayed ejaculation and subtle loss of genital sensitivity--still persists 3 years after finishing medication Annoying dizzy spells that have intensified the longer I have been off of Paxil Alzheimer's Condition dramatically accelerated in my 82 year old mother immediately following Paxil Hot flashes and profuse sweating Lethargic After two days, woke up with left hand and arm numb, feel disconnected, headachy and anxious Heard noises that weren't real: electronic humming/buzzing, doorbells, and voices. Would look for source, but find nothing. Sometimes, just moving my head would make the noises change or go away. TONGUE FEELS LIKE IT HAS BEEN STUCK IN AN ELECTRICAL OUTLET Severe constipation even Metamucil is not working feeling real bloated and starting to get depressed Back to top of page <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I know a lot of this sounds crazy but my sis has been on paxil for many years and suddenly last year she starts self mutilating Don't be fooled by the muscles that I got, I'm still, I'm still Preacher from the block! I used to have a little now I have a lot, but I still know where I came from! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Some of you may recall that I am clinically schizophrenic, as well as bipolar. The condition requires a high level of awareness to say the least. However, in my opinion, nothing is as bad as coping with the treatments generally prescribed. I have been through all of them, believe me. From SSRIs to anti-siezure meds, I have tried the spectrum in the hopes of quelling the hallucinatory aspects of my particular condition. In the end, (well, I'm 35, so maybe just the beginning), I have learned to live with the condition without meds. I hallucinate from time to time, quite badly at times, and my mind really plays tricks on me if I let it. But, there are other aspects of the ilness that are, in my reckoning, absolutely beautiful. The truncation of mental activity occurs at both ends of the spectrum, not just one. So if you clip your function on the bottom in the hopes of stifling depression, a mirror clipping will occur at another point in your mental make-up, at the top, where you feel joy. Your doctor will try and tell you that your joy is manic, or unwarranted, and part of your illness or condition. The explanation will be along the lines that Paxil or Zoloft or Effexor will help 'stabilize' or 'smooth out' your mind. Hmmm. It not only castrated me sexually, worse than tren ever has, but also castrated me mentally. So, I suppose the question is: what are you willing to live with? I think those meds are far more harmful than beneficial, but I can only speak for myself.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fukkenshredded:
Some of you may recall that I am clinically schizophrenic, as well as bipolar. The condition requires a high level of awareness to say the least. However, in my opinion, nothing is as bad as coping with the treatments generally prescribed. I have been through all of them, believe me. From SSRIs to anti-siezure meds, I have tried the spectrum in the hopes of quelling the hallucinatory aspects of my particular condition. In the end, (well, I'm 35, so maybe just the beginning), I have learned to live with the condition without meds. I hallucinate from time to time, quite badly at times, and my mind really plays tricks on me if I let it. But, there are other aspects of the ilness that are, in my reckoning, absolutely beautiful. The truncation of mental activity occurs at both ends of the spectrum, not just one. So if you clip your function on the bottom in the hopes of stifling depression, a mirror clipping will occur at another point in your mental make-up, at the top, where you feel joy. Your doctor will try and tell you that your joy is manic, or unwarranted, and part of your illness or condition. The explanation will be along the lines that Paxil or Zoloft or Effexor will help 'stabilize' or 'smooth out' your mind. Hmmm. It not only castrated me sexually, worse than tren ever has, but also castrated me mentally. So, I suppose the question is: what are you willing to live with? I think those meds are far more harmful than beneficial, but I can only speak for myself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Damn FS, I had no idea...... My sister got diagnosed with Lupus this year and she find it hard to cope. Fonz No Pain....No Gain.....No Spain ----Barcelona 1992
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damn...me too. taking an ssri that initially made things feel better, but the sides are bad...they sneak up on you...didn't work out hardly at all for a year, lost 40lbs of hard-gained muscle...i think i'm off this shit forever....thanks for the posts.
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Paxil is the worst drug I have ever been on...
I'm not saying it's not right for you, but I am saying it wasn't right for me.... Do a search on the net and read about the law-suits pending against Paxil about the withdrawals people have from it... Mine were extreme. I literally had to ween off of it: first 3/4 of a pill then 1/2 then 1/4 then 1/8 then 1/16 until there was nothing left. It took about 2 months for me to stop having the shakes... Good luck! BIG AND ANGRY...GRRRRRR!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by:Assboy
Do a search on the net and read about the law-suits pending against Paxil about the withdrawals people have from it... Mine were extreme. I literally had to ween off of it: first 3/4 of a pill then 1/2 then 1/4 then 1/8 then 1/16 until there was nothing left. It took about 2 months for me to stop having the shakes... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I had to do the same. It's been almost a month I've been off, and I still have the shakes and feel stoned and dizzy at all times. I walk around all day feeling like I'm on G. I know, you might be thinking that's a good thing, but it's hard to get work done [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] ** Magnus Validus Formosus **
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fukkenshredded:
Some of you may recall that I am clinically schizophrenic, as well as bipolar. The condition requires a high level of awareness to say the least. However, in my opinion, nothing is as bad as coping with the treatments generally prescribed. I have been through all of them, believe me. From SSRIs to anti-siezure meds, I have tried the spectrum in the hopes of quelling the hallucinatory aspects of my particular condition. In the end, (well, I'm 35, so maybe just the beginning), I have learned to live with the condition without meds. I hallucinate from time to time, quite badly at times, and my mind really plays tricks on me if I let it. But, there are other aspects of the ilness that are, in my reckoning, absolutely beautiful. The truncation of mental activity occurs at both ends of the spectrum, not just one. So if you clip your function on the bottom in the hopes of stifling depression, a mirror clipping will occur at another point in your mental make-up, at the top, where you feel joy. Your doctor will try and tell you that your joy is manic, or unwarranted, and part of your illness or condition. The explanation will be along the lines that Paxil or Zoloft or Effexor will help 'stabilize' or 'smooth out' your mind. Hmmm. It not only castrated me sexually, worse than tren ever has, but also castrated me mentally. So, I suppose the question is: what are you willing to live with? I think those meds are far more harmful than beneficial, but I can only speak for myself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> My brother too... he didn't make it though. Came on hard and fast and... he was true to statistics for actue schizophrenia. The drugs did lotsa weird shit to him. One type turned his legs into jello and froze his back in a kind of arched position. He could barely walk... he laughed about it at the time but it really wasn't funny. Anyway, very impressive that you have learned to deal with it. B --------------------- GETTIN' HARD!!
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Last year I was hit with severe insomnia and anxiety that I would never get better. I got put on Effexor for 4 month and I gain 30 lbs of fat and eventually I cut myself off from it, The withdrawal symtomps were mainly severe dizzyness. I still sometime take Klonopin to help me sleep but I wish I didn't need anything. I can't explain it but to say that life is tough sometimes and you do what you have to to get by. I wish you the best.
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After reading the responses here and doing a little more digging of my own I had a sit down with the wife and told her I wanted to stop the Paxil. I started my bulker the same day I came off the Paxil and other than one SEVERE anxiety attack my very first day off I have not had any problems at all. In fact, I feel great. I do however, need to make a concerted effort to watch my temper but, I actually all of the sudden have this awareness of it whereas before I would just react without thinking. Paxil on the other hand just made me very passive towards everything including my business and training which have both always been very important to me. The sides of this drug are worse than any other drug I have ever used and I will never use it again.
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