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Old 03-10-2008, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There are so many numbers thrown around, it's quite ridiculous. I know there are some variables, but what's the range for the amount of protein a person can digest in one sitting? Does the amount of muscle that the person carries (or demand created by workout, or time of day) effect this number? Age?

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Old 03-10-2008, 12:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you're on stuff then 75-100grams. JMO.
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looked it up, didn't find an answer. This is something, though: "There is really no data available about how much protein can be taken up by the body. Probably the best thing to do is to take 2.2 grams of protein per kilogram bodyweight divided over 5-7 servings. You should not only consume protein shakes, that's a waist of money. Just eat a lot of lean meat and dairy products."
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you're on stuff then 75-100grams. JMO.
and for those not on stuff...
30-40 is very common answer.


Ou I found something pretty on point.

"At its simplest, your body has a baseline protein requirement that depends on a two main factors: lean body mass (muscle) and activity (type and amount).
The more muscle your body carries, the higher your protein requirement.


Also, the more intense, the more frequent and the longer the activity you perform, the more protein you need."




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Old 03-10-2008, 12:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Given the time afterwards, almost all of the protein you eat at one serving can be absorbed for energy. Just don't expect 10 chicken breasts down the hatch to be digested and absorbed in 30 minutes though.

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Great post by Bunny! I'd agree... and w/that there really is no across the board amount because everyone is different. Another factor could be the TYPE of protein you are consuming... slow digesting proteins can be consumed in larger quantities then ones that are immediately absorbed in my opinion.
I try touse what was posted above, my max protein for the day divided by x amount of meals.
Usually on whole foods & slow digesting proteins, I'll go upto 75 grams in a sitting... if it's something like a shake, I try to keep it under 50 grams.
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I remember Ulter once told me your body will take what it needs (Protein) and use it, and get rid of the rest.

I am pretty sure that your body can convert protein to both fatty acids and glucose so excess protein can either be used, converted or excreted.
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Protein, from what I've read, is the hardest to convert to fat and usually just gets excreted. I know that my urine turns Mt. Dew colored when I get too much protein.
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Protein, from what I've read, is the hardest to convert to fat and usually just gets excreted. I know that my urine turns Mt. Dew colored when I get too much protein.
I get that when I take my multi vitamins

Not too sure about Protein to Fat, but if I am correct Protein must be converted to glucose first, then it can be converted to fat.
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I get that when I take my multi vitamins

Not too sure about Protein to Fat, but if I am correct Protein must be converted to glucose first, then it can be converted to fat.
Multi-vitamins make me pee orange. This is very convenient for me, because that way I know which one I went overboard on.

Speaking of, I haven't taken my vitamins/supps yet.

And yes, I believe it's protein -> glucose -> fat.
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For those who are interested in this conversion stuff Im going to post some convo I had with Ulter about it

*Protein is converted to glucose when glucose levels fall. Usually due to no carbs. Then glucose can be stored as fat.

*Fat cells can take up amino acids as well as glucose. It takes about 10 times as much work for the fat cells to take up amino acids than it does fat, but they can do it. Because it takes so long you usually

out the protein before it can do that.
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Good answers, and I agree there is no one set amount of grams per sitting. What if you stand up and sit right back down? Would that be two sittings?
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I just take my total amount of protein, I want per day and divide it up equally throughout my meals, which for me equals about 60 grams per meal time 7 meals.
Seems to work, however I do recall years ago the whole "you can only handle so much per meal" thing.
Which, if you really think about it, meats break down so slowly, that the release of some protein is most likely still occuring when your next protein is being ingested, so why would their be an amount per meal you can handle?

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Old 03-11-2008, 01:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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everyone is different. there is no definitive broad sweeping answer.
if your shitting 5 times a day, eat less. if yr shitting once, yr fine and you can slowly build it up.
thats my medical opinion.
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I like to get as much as I can in different varieties especialy post work out. Ill consume 75+ grams just because I want it via chicken breasts, and also via whey. Better safe than sorry and I want to get what I can. If I piss it out, then so be it. Thats my philosopgy.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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