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Ripped-up my already screwed right shoulder a few weeks into my last run. Made it through the cycle by modifying my routine(s) but it was a drag. I've been getting my act together regarding WO's (been on-the-road) lately and it's just killing me (serious pain & very limited ROM). So...I give...I'm going to the doc next week but I don't think I'm going to like what I hear.
Later,
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Bummer, bro. You said earlier that you were trying to tie it all back together. Too bad this has come up.
I'm hearing from all kinds of guys these days about bum shoulders, tennis elbows, knees blowing out. It's like the final scene in Oscar Wilde's "The Picture of Dorian Gray", where your life of sin finally catches up to you. I know that can't be true in your case, though, 1911, not as squeaky-clean as you've been living ... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] Word to the wise, here: All docs are not alike. Even for pedestrian, every-day problems, their skills and levels of understanding vary enormously. Make sure you get a good orthopedist. Most orthopods are back and neck docs. You need a shoulder guy, preferably someone who regularly treats weight-training athletes. You should be able to get a few good names from your county medical society. Keep us posted. We don't wanna lose you, not after we've raised you from a pup ... Bjaarki " 'Til the weard of the world, stands, unforgotten, high under Heaven, the Hero's name!" Hrolff Krakki's Saga (Iceland) BECOME SOMEONE'S HERO!
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Surgery should be your last resort only. Don't go under the knife until you have tried all other possible venues.
Some 10 years ago, I had a bad rotator cuff problem. I did not think I would be able to press any weight without pain for the rest of my life. But through physical therapy and with professional help, I was able to have "healthy" shoulder again. |
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hooker:
I've had both shoulders done (left at age 19, right at age 23) and don't regret it at all. Chicks dig scars...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You tore both rotator cuffs? WTF? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img] "Good Girls Get Fat, Bad Girls Get Eaten" - Deja_Voodoo
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&quot;Better laugh now, then cry when I come 2 get you. I hit you w/ 2 glocks &amp; leave you w/ scar tissue. On some loco shit, my pistol smoke yo&apos; shit. Let&apos;s go 4 dolo-BIATCH &amp; watch me flow yo&apos; shit.&quot; - Pac |
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Met my new doc today when I went in for the shoulder. I selected this guy sometime ago sight unseen and based my decision on sex & age (I wanted a male close to my age for various reasons). New doc was due to a change in job/insurance plan in late 2000. My assessment; excellent guy and we established a mutual respect for one another right off-the-bat. He understands my W/O lifestyle (juice not discussed, yet anyway [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] ) and appreciated that I was well-versed/prepared on my injury, etc.
Bottom-line, he did not attempt to hazard a diagnosis although we discussed various possibilities at length. Next step, MRI within the next week or two followed-up by a visit to an ortho with a focus on sports med. I'll assess that guy too before I get to far down the road. The good news, significant strength remains so hard-core rotator problems are not expected, but not excluded either. The bad news, based on my history and description of the injury, he said that most likely a surgical resolution is on the horizon. He cautioned to not make any assumptions at this stage though. Oh...yeah...I got free full Chem Panel out of the deal to include Test, free Test and Est. That's cool, he justified it with a "lethargy / job stress reference." I know this type of injury/surgery has been discussed heavily here in the past but...if I acquire any useful knowledge as I go thru this crap I'll pas it on and try to minimize redundancy. Later,
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I'm pretty paranoid about hurting myself while working out. One little slip and you can be out of it for months, maybe even longer. I think it's inevitable that you hurt yourself, especially when you go to higher weights. That's why I've started to drop my weights, but try to focus more on the movement and do loooong negatives. It's going great, though it's humbling to have to drop to 1/2 the weight you usually use.
Good luck, 1911!
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Initial diagnosis from the Ortho: Impingement and tear (not frayed, a tear) of the Bicep Tendon near where it connects within the shoulder joint and as a result, excessive inflammation. The good news, zero RC damage.
Short-term: 1G p/day of Etodolac (NSAID) in 2 divided doses daily for 2 weeks and "perform these exercises" in addition to the existing W/O program (DO NOT go heavy for now). The doc plans to consult with an internal peer group and radiologist in the interim (MRI report unavailable for the examination - computer problem) and then determine a longer-term treatment plan. Doc say's it's the type of injury where cutting to repair can/will introduce a longer-term recovery process and we need to investigate what we can do to prevent that. Cortisone is next most likely. Long-term: I have no clue yet but...I plan to keep lifting and juicing. 1. I have a lot of research to do and 2.) The doc said "Your musculature exceeds 99% of the population, keep doing what your doing but do it intelligently." That made me feel pretty good considering I really look like shit right now...then...I realized what 99% of the population truly looks like and I lost that good feelin'! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] Later,
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