Harvard has 'No-Men' Gym Hours??

[*Bunny*]

Harvard University has banned men from one of its gyms for a few hours a week, a move to accommodate Muslim women who, for religious and cultural reasons, cannot exercise comfortably in their presence.


thoughts?

Harvard's No-Men Gym Hours Cause Stir - AOL News

[MR. BMJ]

[JG1]

Originally Posted by MR. BMJ

[ILIEKFUDE]

for fuck sake..
i dont know what to say. ill prolly wait a while n think it over..
i mean, are these fundamentalist women? do they wear a burka or have they rejoiced in america's freedoms and shed that because they are able to? if the latter, why would they contradict that freedom and ask for such bullshit? you cant have your cake and eat it too.
wouldnt working out be a sin to a funamentalist anyway?

[navalgazer]

I don't know, it really doesn't bother me.

You're talking about 6 hours a week and I know from my own experiences young men tend to work out in the PM not the AM. The reality is a lot of women that are not muslim will go just so they can not be around men too.

I think it would go over better if they just presented the gym only available to women during certain hours of the week so if comes across less offensive and suits all women not just women of a certain faith.

After high school I worked in a Lucille Roberts that had the gym (weights area) available to women only and coed at different times and days.

[ILIEKFUDE]

its not just am
its 3-5pm on monday and am on tuesday and thursday from what i read.
they should build them their own gym or a small extension next to the prayer areas harvard has already provided for them. this is bullshit imo.
better yet they should fundraise for their own gym or ask muslim groups to build it.

[navalgazer]

Originally Posted by ILIEKFUDE

its not just am
its 3-5pm on monday and am on tuesday and thursday from what i read.
they should build them their own gym or a small extension. this is bullshit imo.

2-4 are typical dead hours in a gym.
The prime time hours are after 5pm, before 9 am and depending on the area of the gym lunch hour.

I can understand why it's offense to people but on the other hand I don't think it's a bad idea either if it's available to women period - not just muslims.

[ILIEKFUDE]

its a college gym not a commercial one.
everyone i know at college works out after their morning classes or after their afternoon classes. 10am ish or after 3pm right when these hours are.
do you feel its better to shut down an entire ivy league college gym for that much time rather than just build an area for the "six girls" who asked for this, after they already built them their own prayer areas?
why not remove all traces of catholocism from the catholic chapel if there is one, for 10 hours a week and turn it into a mosque and close it to catholics while we're at it?..

[navalgazer]

Originally Posted by ILIEKFUDE

its a college gym not a commercial one.
everyone i know at college works out after their morning classes or after their afternoon classes. 10am ish or after 3pm right when these hours are.

So what you're saying is one day a week from 3-5pm is a major problem?

While I agree with the "faith" issue - it just doesn't seem like a big deal.

We sacrifice by far more to the illegals in this country then 6 hours of gym time.

[navalgazer]

Originally Posted by ILIEKFUDE

its a college gym not a commercial one.
everyone i know at college works out after their morning classes or after their afternoon classes. 10am ish or after 3pm right when these hours are.
do you feel its better to shut down an entire ivy league college gym for that much time rather than just build an area for the "six girls" who asked for this, after they already built them their own prayer areas?
why not remove all traces of catholocism from the catholic chapel if there is one, for 10 hours a week and turn it into a mosque and close it to catholics while we're at it?..

What if the gym was made men's and women's based on hours and it had nothing to do with religion?

What about Jews?





























Oh wait they hate Jews too at Harvard.

[MR. BMJ]

I am not for segregation of gyms for any cause. They can go get a membership at Total Woman if they want though....or stay at home and find something to do instead. I find it a waste since they will probably only use a treadmill anyway...lol.

BMJ

[ILIEKFUDE]

Originally Posted by navalgazer

What if the gym was made men's and women's based on hours and it had nothing to do with religion?

Then it would be sexist... This country was founded on freedom of religion. Its been rocky at times but this country wouldnt be the power it is if it didnt allow freedom of expression and religious choice and i believe will one day be our saving grace. Im agnostic, if you think im discriminating because of their religion here your barking up the wrong tree. All colors and religions have fought and died for this country at one time or another.

What about Jews? Oh wait they hate Jews too at Harvard.

Is that yr opinion, or did "they" tell you that? Did you read that from an unbiased source or see it on a jewish owned television station?

Anyway, you need to read the article like i did before i started to comment. First you were off on the hours, i explained. Now yr off on the days, its 3+ days not one.
Also, yr not answering any of my points. Why segregate a gym for many hours a week for 6 people (REGARDLESS OF RELIGION) instead of just building them their own little workout area like they already did for their prayer? Why one solution then and then a different more invasive (to the majority) one this time?
Its in the article.
If you wana debate my view, do me a fav and read up then we can have at it.

[ILIEKFUDE]

Originally Posted by MR. BMJ

I am not for segregation of gyms for any cause. They can go get a membership at Total Woman if they want though....or stay at home and find something to do instead. I find it a waste since they will probably only use a treadmill anyway...lol.

BMJ

exactly.. its not like the 6 girls are gona whip off their burkas and start doing stones and throwing chalk around the gym.
build those 6 women - a little cardio closet with some dumbells or whatever they like and let the other tens of thousands of students continue to workout at their usual pace...
this is more asinine the more i think about it.

[Immortalis]

Originally Posted by navalgazer

2-4 are typical dead hours in a gym.
...

And thats one reason why my workout starts around 3. This would irritate me because it would infringe upon my schedule. However since Im not a harvard student it doesnt impact me - so fuckit, whatever. I think its bullshit, but then again obviously my opinion doesn't matter anyway

[big4life]

I'm not offended by them closing it for Muslim women, but what about born again Christian males who are uncomfortable around women working out? I think you just open yourself up to all kinds of requests, some legitimate, some not, but how do you decide?