Dairy while dieting?

EmptyWallet · 03-05-2008, 09:16 AM

Are there any negatives to milk or dairy while dieting....besides the obvious calorie implications if you go over your daily calorie intake?

Let's say you still stay within your daily allowance of calories, but you're consuming milk, such as whole or 2%.

I've always heard that dairy tends to smoothe (sp) people out.

Comments?

JG1 · 03-05-2008, 09:23 AM

Dairy will smooth you out, so if detail is important to you I'd not drink it.

EmptyWallet · 03-05-2008, 09:38 AM

But why? Is it something specifically related to the dairy....or because consuming dairy usually puts people over their daily caloric requirements?

What's the science behind it?

JG1 · 03-05-2008, 10:10 AM

I think it's the milk sugars.

EmptyWallet · 03-05-2008, 10:14 AM

Hmmmm, I'm having a debate with a guy about it now. I'd like to be armed with more than that.

proteinfiend · 03-05-2008, 12:15 PM

Some people love it, some hate it. If you personally do not smooth out, then by all means drink it. That means your body is processing it correctly. If you bloat, get gas, burps, etc... you should probably cut it out of your diet. Lastly, Ive read that the homogenization process is extremely unhealthy as it allows milk fat to be readily absorbed in the intestine due to molecular particle size (thats why it doesnt rise to the top). Apparently this is a bad thing, so if you must drink it stick with skim.

victorbr · 03-05-2008, 10:51 PM

I can't live without low fat cheese and I am about to add NO FAT milk to all my protein shakes .

I asked about the whole " milk will make your skin thicker and smooth you out " here , but people don't really believe in that ?

I dunno .

I guess that if you stay withim your calorie RANGE it is all good and it CAN'T smooth you out .

Victor

strawberryriddick · 03-06-2008, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by proteinfiend

Some people love it, some hate it. If you personally do not smooth out, then by all means drink it. That means your body is processing it correctly. If you bloat, get gas, burps, etc... you should probably cut it out of your diet. Lastly, Ive read that the homogenization process is extremely unhealthy as it allows milk fat to be readily absorbed in the intestine due to molecular particle size (thats why it doesnt rise to the top). Apparently this is a bad thing, so if you must drink it stick with skim.

Skim milk is also processed. Try buying "natural" milk from your local dairy farm if possible. Apparently, this version of milk is really healthy...plus, it's DELICIOUS.

If you're hard-up for milk in, say, your oatmeal or something, but you don't have a dairy farm and you don't want to risk the milk sugar reactions, give lactose-free milk a shot. It doesn't have lactose (milk sugar), so it should be good.

There's always soymilk, too.

JG1 · 03-06-2008, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryriddick

There's always soymilk, too.

We don't eat soy around here

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strawberryriddick · 03-06-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JG1

We don't eat soy around here

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If the lactose is getting to you, you might want to try

Believe you me, you do it right, no one knows you're eating soy. I've surprised many carnivores with soy "meat." Just gotta season it right and you seriously don't know the difference

I'm no veggo, but some people I know don't eat beef, I like the variety, and it's faster because you don't need to brown it.

JG1 · 03-06-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by strawberryriddick

If the lactose is getting to you, you might want to try

Believe you me, you do it right, no one knows you're eating soy. I've surprised many carnivores with soy "meat." Just gotta season it right and you seriously don't know the difference

I'm no veggo, but some people I know don't eat beef, I like the variety, and it's faster because you don't need to brown it.

It's the soy/estrogen link that we avoid.

thecomeback · 03-06-2008, 06:06 PM

I wouldn't touch it to much sugar. But one serving early in the day wont kill you either.

xtinct · 03-06-2008, 07:46 PM

I drink about a quart a day when cutting and over half a gallon a day the rest of the time. One time I cut out all dairy for several months and promptly became lactose intolerant. It took several weeks to get my body back to normal so now I make it a point to always have some milk year round.

strawberryriddick · 03-07-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JG1

It's the soy/estrogen link that we avoid.

Question: if you're taking an estrogen blocker, will that help in this situation? Never thought about that before, just wondering if anyone knows.

thecomeback · 03-07-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryriddick

Question: if you're taking an estrogen blocker, will that help in this situation? Never thought about that before, just wondering if anyone knows.

I think it would be easier to just not drink soy then to have to worry about taking an anti estrogen just cause you drink soy milk.

JayC · 03-07-2008, 02:02 PM

I to steer clear of soy/soy based protein. Besides the estrogen link in men, it's believed to decrease thyroid levels.. ouch! Double whammy!

Mrs Croft · 03-07-2008, 04:55 PM

I think it would not be advisable to cut milk out in the long term...especially for women..but I was also told to avoid dairy when cutting

for the argument of it...milk is aimed at fattening up a calf..so it's main AIM is to help put on a layer of fat..

well if your a calf that is

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EmptyWallet AF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 1168	Dairy while dieting? Are there any negatives to milk or dairy while dieting....besides the obvious calorie implications if you go over your daily calorie intake? Let's say you still stay within your daily allowance of calories, but you're consuming milk, such as whole or 2%. I've always heard that dairy tends to smoothe (sp) people out. Comments?

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victorbr Sust addicted . Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Posts: 58 Rep Power: 1447	I can't live without low fat cheese and I am about to add NO FAT milk to all my protein shakes . I asked about the whole " milk will make your skin thicker and smooth you out " here , but people don't really believe in that ? I dunno . I guess that if you stay withim your calorie RANGE it is all good and it CAN'T smooth you out . Victor __________________ Age: 28 Height: 1,84 cms ( or 6'1 ) Today: 232 lbs , 18.5 inches arms and 33.5 inches waist Goal : 240 lbs , 19.5 inches arms and 32 inches waist Time to achieve goal : OCTOBER 2008

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Mrs Croft Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 4,163 Rep Power: 175658	I think it would not be advisable to cut milk out in the long term...especially for women..but I was also told to avoid dairy when cutting for the argument of it...milk is aimed at fattening up a calf..so it's main AIM is to help put on a layer of fat.. well if your a calf that is __________________ Woman on a mission

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JG1 Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Chum Bucket Posts: 2,731 Rep Power: 115901	Dairy will smooth you out, so if detail is important to you I'd not drink it.

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EmptyWallet AF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 1168	But why? Is it something specifically related to the dairy....or because consuming dairy usually puts people over their daily caloric requirements? What's the science behind it?

03-05-2008, 10:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
JG1 Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Chum Bucket Posts: 2,731 Rep Power: 115901	I think it's the milk sugars.

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EmptyWallet AF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 1168	Hmmmm, I'm having a debate with a guy about it now. I'd like to be armed with more than that.

03-05-2008, 12:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
proteinfiend Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 482 Rep Power: 4200	Some people love it, some hate it. If you personally do not smooth out, then by all means drink it. That means your body is processing it correctly. If you bloat, get gas, burps, etc... you should probably cut it out of your diet. Lastly, Ive read that the homogenization process is extremely unhealthy as it allows milk fat to be readily absorbed in the intestine due to molecular particle size (thats why it doesnt rise to the top). Apparently this is a bad thing, so if you must drink it stick with skim.

03-06-2008, 06:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
thecomeback Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 368 Rep Power: 6496	I wouldn't touch it to much sugar. But one serving early in the day wont kill you either.

03-06-2008, 07:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
xtinct Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,060 Rep Power: 37682	I drink about a quart a day when cutting and over half a gallon a day the rest of the time. One time I cut out all dairy for several months and promptly became lactose intolerant. It took several weeks to get my body back to normal so now I make it a point to always have some milk year round.

03-07-2008, 02:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
JayC Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,577 Rep Power: 81794	I to steer clear of soy/soy based protein. Besides the estrogen link in men, it's believed to decrease thyroid levels.. ouch! Double whammy!

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